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91s13coupe
06-25-2002, 10:53 PM
i know there have been alot of topics about the idle thing but i have cleaned my aiv and it is still there!!!! any suggestions? also i was racing a driend wh has a 95 s14 5spd and he beat me pretty bad with no mods. i have a 91 si3 coupe w/ intake and automatic. i should have won right??? i have the better cams and my car is lighter so why did i lose &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>

DSC
06-25-2002, 10:57 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (91s13coupe @ June 25 2002,01:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i know there have been alot of topics about the idle thing but i have cleaned my aiv and it is still there!!!! any suggestions? also i was racing a driend wh has a 95 s14 5spd and he beat me pretty bad with no mods. i have a 91 si3 coupe w/ intake and automatic. i should have won right??? i have the better cams and my car is lighter so why did i lose <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I don't know about your idle problem but I can tell you the s14 won cauz its 5spd...and it should win every time. &nbsp;Intake doesn't do much...it certianly won't make you beat a car you previously couldn't.

91s13coupe
06-25-2002, 11:22 PM
i realize the intake wont make alot of difference but i figured the weight difference and the "hotter" cams of the 91' would at least level the playing field a little!

Tyler Durdan
06-25-2002, 11:47 PM
The 5sp gives him the better advantage. &nbsp;The cams are better, but not by a whole lot. &nbsp;For instance, I stand no chance against an 01' celica gts 6spd. &nbsp;But my buddy with an 01' gts with blitz intake and tunabe medallion exhaust won't race me due to the fact he knows he will lose. &nbsp;Reason being is his gts is automatic.

For the idle problem, try disconnecting the battery for 15 or 30 minutes, then restart the car. &nbsp;Don't know if it will fix the problem, but it can't hurt. &nbsp;Will reset the ecu, and might cure your problem. &nbsp;That's the only thing I can think of. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

91s13coupe
06-26-2002, 09:36 AM
ive already tried resetting the ecu and that didnt help either. i think it is the egr valve itself or the selonoid that runs it. but i cant find the thread about bypassing the egr so i can eliminate that before i go by a new one from nissan

nrcooled
06-26-2002, 02:02 PM
Slush boxes suck for the s13. &nbsp;I have raced a '91 240sx w/ intake and exhaust and beat him w/ a bone stock '91. &nbsp;All tranny. &nbsp;While his car was figuring out when and if to shift I was already gone. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp; The five speed makes a big difference

91blk240
06-26-2002, 02:13 PM
could his 02 sensor br crap?

MasterOFDrift
06-26-2002, 02:26 PM
two reasons he beat you

1. he has a s14 5 spd compared to your s13 auto

2. intake is not turbo................ does not allow you to beat a newer engine with a manual transmission

imho

91s13coupe
06-26-2002, 02:47 PM
i already replaced my o2 sensor, thanks. ok, ok i get it ijust didnt think there was THAT much difference in the 5 speed tranny over my slushbox. but thats ok cause im shipping it to level 10 so i wont get beat by any 5 speeds again!!! they "claim" with their upgrade to my auto my tranny will shift good enough to beat 5 speeds. i know someone is gonna ask why i just dont swap to a manual so ill go ahead and answer. i want my 240 to be a street/track killer w/ an auto, simple as that!!! i want to be different and difficult!

MasterOFDrift
06-26-2002, 02:51 PM
oh I heard about something like what you are going to do supposedly what they will do is take away the smoothness of the auto therefore allowing it to shift like a manual. It will get rid of the delay in between gears and shift perfectly and quickly. Basically giving you a automatic manual transmission. Let us know how it goes

nrcooled
06-26-2002, 02:58 PM
How much is that going to run you

sykikchimp
06-26-2002, 03:54 PM
It could be the IAA valve. &nbsp;Shoot some carb cleaner down this hose:

http://charles.sykikchimp.org/images/aiv.jpg

jdkruger4
06-26-2002, 05:23 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (91s13coupe @ June 25 2002,4:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i want my 240 to be a street/track killer w/ an auto, simple as that!!! i want to be different and difficult!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
but 5spd is soo much fun! I dont mean to flame but or get you angry but honestly can you drive a 5spd? Or is the reason you want an auto cause you dont know how to drive a 5spd?

91s13coupe
06-26-2002, 09:21 PM
actually yes i can drive a 5 speed. my old 240 was a five speed, and my rx7, &nbsp;and my prelude, etc., etc. &nbsp;i just would like to &nbsp;explore the realm of a true performance automatic. it is expensive, about $4000(new torque converter and total internal rebuild) but one guy with an infinity q45 is running low 12's with a level 10 auto matic and that car weighs 4500 lbs! no forced induction at all and he credits a 2.5 second reduction in his 1/4 mile time to just the tranny!!

DSC
06-26-2002, 10:02 PM
91s13coupe, don't you feel that driving an auto takes away from the "driving experiance"? &nbsp;Whenever I've driven auto, I've felt so disconnected from the car I just couldn't have any fun. &nbsp;I also have a hard time believeing that an auto can out perform a 5spd in auto-x or at a road course...drag however, I'm sure it'll be damn quick.

91s13coupe
06-26-2002, 10:57 PM
dsc, in stock form yes it does take away from the total expierence but i have driven alot of perormance cars and some had automatics and i have found that the transmission is only part of the whole. our chassis is one of the best handling vehicles in stock form i have ever driven, and with very few upgrades can be in the ranks with many $100,000 + "true" sports cars and with the right setup(horsepower, torque, tranny, etc.) i feel the 240 platform whether its s13,s14etc, is the perfect car for the driver. im ranting but i think with the level 10 upgrade it will actually enhance the expierience because you can concentrate on driving the car, letting the awesome chassis and hp/torque (turbo) do the work for you! this is all my opinion of course but i just want to take a route that everyone else somewhat avoids because they arent willing to explore the possibility of having a serious performance car with an automatic! i hope it works and i will keep everyone posted on the progress.