View Full Version : Where to buy a 1.5 way lsd?
az_240
08-11-2006, 09:40 AM
Ive been searching for a few hours now and have not found anything.
I know Kaaz does not make 1.5 way lsd's anymore so who does and where can I buy one? Even if I could find a Kaaz im not sure id go with it since I hear the noise is pretty bad
I am not looking to buy the nismo street version but if someone can point me to a nismo 1.5 way gt version I would consider that since I hear the gt 2 ways are pretty good. Does anyone know how many plates the nismo gt version has? The gt version is the one with the 4 pinion, 70ft lb breakaway torque as show here?> http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CP&Product_Code=38420-RS661
Even better would be the sss version but I dont ill be able to find one of those
Id rather not fork over 1g for a cusco rs but if thats what it comes down to I guess ill have to:hammer:
Oh and I was also wondering if mechanical LSD's are considered clutch type LSD's? Just want to make sure they are the same thing
DP_Michelle G
08-11-2006, 10:37 AM
mechanical lsd's are not considered clutch type's. all clutch type's make noise except for the nismo street and tomei street. why dont you want the nismo street? if you dont want any noise just get a vlsd or a obx hlsd
az_240
08-11-2006, 10:43 AM
The street series is too mild for me and vlsd's are for pussies. I do not want a hlsd since I will be using my car for drift/auto x. I will even consider the nismo gt 2 way if I can find out which one that is...
In the link I posted above it says that LSD is a mechanical one... So that must not be the GT version since the GT version is a clutch type correct?
Jung918
08-11-2006, 11:20 AM
try contacting performance nissan.
Dousan_PG
08-11-2006, 11:26 AM
you want a SSS
get a GT PRO
its the newer version of the SSS
iits just as expensive though haha..SSS wasnt cheap
az_240
08-11-2006, 11:40 AM
sell me your sss!
Id get a cusco RS before I got the GT pro since I can get the rs for about 150 cheaper
Dousan_PG
08-11-2006, 11:42 AM
let me see how much a GT PRO might cost me and maybe we can working something out. ;)
DP_Michelle G
08-11-2006, 11:49 AM
The One In The Link Is The Street. How Is The Street One Mild? If Your Going To Autox It's The Best One 70% Lockup Versus What 85 To 100% On Most Other Models Atleast With Street You Wont Get To Much Under Steer On Tight Course's
CKAMC
08-11-2006, 11:50 AM
Yeah SSS is easy to get while the GT pro which is more expensive and isnt mechanical type is a special order for some shops. 1.5 way works during acceleration while the 2 way works during acceleration and deceleration . Most people are used to a diff activating during acceleration thus a 2 way for some at first throws them off.
just depends on how you drive, overall a good "drift" diff is over 1g but if you dont drift a mechanical or not as expensive diff will do the job just fine.
Dousan_PG
08-11-2006, 11:51 AM
nah i check the cost a GT Pro is too much for me. i have no money 'out of pocket' right now
my friend might sell his SSS soon, probably for like 700 to 900...but thats IF he parts his car out. which he probably wont.
CKAMC
08-11-2006, 11:55 AM
let me see how much a GT PRO might cost me and maybe we can working something out. ;)
about 74,260 YEN
Dousan_PG
08-11-2006, 12:02 PM
i think thats regular GT
gt pro is like in Japan 115,000Y i checked w/ perf nissan just now
http://www.nismo.co.jp/products/productguide/s13/partslist.html
check it out.
az_240
08-11-2006, 12:03 PM
Yeah SSS is easy to get while the GT pro which is more expensive and isnt mechanical type is a special order for some shops.
easy to get? You know someone selling one cuz id be interested
Looking for a good lsd is a pita... nismo doesnt give any details on their lsds and the only ones I can find anyone selling are the crappy street versions that nobody wants or the GT pro for a rediculous amount.
Right now its looking like cusco RS is going to be what I choose since Ive heard nothing but good things about them. Thats what I wanted to get from the beginning I just wanted to see if I could get a good 1.5 for cheaper.
Dousan_PG
08-11-2006, 12:06 PM
Performance NIssan can get them
talk with Justin
im talking w/ him right now
he is trying to get some
they can get whatever u desire.
az_240
08-11-2006, 12:12 PM
I pmed him earlier. his price is the best Ive seen for the gt pro but it is still a bit steep since I can still get the cusco rs for about 100 cheaper
CKAMC
08-11-2006, 12:17 PM
The SSS is a North america parts warehouse access. The GT pro is an imported product which dealers like me and performance can order thru our importer(s).
az_240
08-11-2006, 12:22 PM
they dont even make the sss anymore so how would it be north america warehouse access?
Does anybody know what shafts the Cusco RS LSD uses? Open diff? VLSD?
usdm180sx
08-11-2006, 12:59 PM
Get a used one. I just got a used CUSCO RS for $625 installed in the pumpkin.
wwwyzzerr
08-11-2006, 01:31 PM
overall a good "drift" diff is over 1g but if you dont drift a mechanical or not as expensive diff will do the job just fine.
The Tomei diff isn't over 1g...
az_240
08-11-2006, 01:36 PM
I wish I could get a deal like that... Damn CA residents and their killer deals on parts. AZ dont got shit for parts
I just called a cusco dealer and they said the cusco rs lsd comes for both open diff and VLSD. The part number (or some of it) for the open diff is 162... the guy really knew his stuff and acted like the rs was a gift from the gods or something
CKAMC
08-11-2006, 02:23 PM
they dont even make the sss anymore so how would it be north america warehouse access?
Does anybody know what shafts the Cusco RS LSD uses? Open diff? VLSD?
The SSS is what is shown on the link for courtesy. The SSS is commonly refered to as the limited slip differental upgrade offered by nationwide nissan dealers... they just dont see the words SSS on their accessories catalog. Call a shop like intense motorsports and they may know weather its for open diff OR Vlsd
420sx
08-11-2006, 02:30 PM
i know u want a aftermarket diff...... but....
if u not planning to auto-x u can weld ur open in the meanwhile. mucho traction, predictable.... but good luck auto-x'ing hahah. but soooo good for drift. i love it. just another option for you.
Dousan_PG
08-11-2006, 04:02 PM
The SSS is what is shown on the link for courtesy. The SSS is commonly refered to as the limited slip differental upgrade offered by nationwide nissan dealers... they just dont see the words SSS on their accessories catalog. Call a shop like intense motorsports and they may know weather its for open diff OR Vlsd
so this "SSS" is also 3 way torque adjuable and 1.5 and 2 way changeable w/ disassembly? same thing?
cool!
kensreliableb18b
08-11-2006, 04:41 PM
The SSS is what is shown on the link for courtesy. The SSS is commonly refered to as the limited slip differental upgrade offered by nationwide nissan dealers... they just dont see the words SSS on their accessories catalog. Call a shop like intense motorsports and they may know weather its for open diff OR Vlsd
wrong buddy, sss and the "street" (whatever nickname u wanna give it) is not the same.
chmercer
08-11-2006, 07:06 PM
just FYI tomei diff = kaaz diff = tomei
also why do you want a 1.5 way? cause some guy on zilvia said 2 way is for drift and 1.5 way is for grip? not hating but i mean i doubt you rode around on all 3 and actually preferred 1.5. and people with the wrong info love to spray it all over the internet like homeslice a couple posts up with that junk about SSS being the weak nismo diff you can get at the dealer
cliffsnotes buy a 2 way, 2 way is best for grip, drift, everything. stable under braking. race cars either run 2 way or spool (unless its rally or some other strange circumstance)
hlsd / vlsd / any diff that dosent have clutch packs, good for nothing. good for ripping the bottoms out of trash bags, and good for selling to kids who dont want their drivetrain to clunk because their girlfriends wouldnt want to ride in their car if it made too much noise.
az_240
08-11-2006, 08:32 PM
ive researched this enough to know kaaz = tomei but I hear they are often times very loud. Id like to keep the clunking to a minimum
I have not ridden in all 3 nor do I have much experience with 240s other than searching the net. Im sure if I had ridden in all 3 Id know what Id want.
But until then Id like to go with an adjustable lsd so I can feel how the 2 way 1.5 way really differ from each other.
Cusco RS is what I plan on going with for now.
Thanks for the help guys
Dousan_PG
08-11-2006, 08:36 PM
i have a 2 way SSS
it dont clunk.
i had a 2 way kaaz
it clunked
i had a hlsd
it was a pos
i had a open diff
it was pos as well
i had another some odd 2 way got cheap
it was clunky
drifted on logans welded diff.
it was weird...didnt like it
drifted a FC3s w/ 300some HP on a 1.5 way
it was awesome
drove some other cars, like BRIAN (sn) s14. cusco rs lsd i think?
not too clunky, a bit noisy more then nismo but it feels great. i think its a 2 way as well.
ive tried various gearing, 4.08, 4.36 and 4.1 with those above diffs (some came w/ various gearing)
all in all
you wont know till you try
i doublt you'll real notice 2 way vs 1.5 thatmuch
just buy one and drive
i would suggest KAAZ
KAAZ usa can set up your diff HOWEVER you want it to be. give them a call and see what they can do
they have a toll free number
i think its
www.kaaz-usa.com or kaazusa.com
google.com for it
talk with them and get setup. kaaz usa is great. so friendly, so smart
az_240
08-11-2006, 08:49 PM
Thanks for the help dousan... its nice to get opinions from someone who knows their shit.
If I was to get a kaaz though Id want to get a used one since I see them for sale frequently. New ones are about as much as a Cusco RS which from what I can see is a far superior lsd
http://www.cusco.co.jp/english/e_lsd.html
^for anyone who is interested... some info on cusco lsd's
Dousan_PG
08-11-2006, 10:42 PM
i would highly suggest against getting used LSDs
for the cost its great
but for longevitiy, its really hit and miss
its better to get a new one, get it installed correctly and rock it for years.
dont get caught up on that cusco stuff
most lsds are made by same companies just rebadged
the lsd from kaaz will be just as good as a lsd from cusco
and at least with kaaz you got 100% USA support if there are ANY problems.
you will not get that from cusco
a dealer wont fix it for you. a dealer will sell it and have no way to get you a rebuild for it when that time comes.
btw for that cusco link
probablythe most generic shit ever
all lsds do that
kaaz can do the ramp too (kaaz usa can adjust b4 they send it to you)
new kaaz is grooved too and same style
get the kaaz
and you got solid USA support
get cusco and when u got a problem, send it back to japan
EchoOfSilence
08-12-2006, 12:33 AM
cliffsnotes buy a 2 way, 2 way is best for grip, drift, everything. stable under braking. race cars either run 2 way or spool (unless its rally or some other strange circumstance)
hlsd / vlsd / any diff that dosent have clutch packs, good for nothing. good for ripping the bottoms out of trash bags, and good for selling to kids who dont want their drivetrain to clunk because their girlfriends wouldnt want to ride in their car if it made too much noise.
feels like the 2way is more prone to understeer though. I mean it's all preference, right? I wish I knew someone with a 1.5way... i've only driven cars with a 2way or a welded.
don't knock on hlsd's so hard, either. cheaper way to go faster for people that don't want to slide occasionally
chmercer
08-12-2006, 02:04 AM
if you understeer in a 240 of any kind, either you are a really bad driver or the car is set up really bad. as for the clunk, who cares. thats how you know it works. if my diff stopped clunking it would be broken.
as for different brands of lsd
if it makes the wheels lock together, it works
if it dosent, its broke
get a kaaz 2 way, put in car, go drive, smile
Edgar
08-12-2006, 07:15 AM
clunk is the best
the sound of a manly car
sittinsideways
08-12-2006, 04:58 PM
ive been in a car with a kaaz 2 way. the clunking wasnt that bad. i didnt mind it at all. i almost kind of liked it hehehe.
how is nismos support? compared to the rest, from this fourm kaaz seems to be #1 with service and support. just wondering where nismo stands
KA24DESOneThree
08-12-2006, 05:23 PM
if you understeer in a 240 of any kind, either you are a really bad driver or the car is set up really bad
You are such a tool sometimes. :fruit:
I'd recommend buying from a reputable seller like DriftFactory, MSL, SPL, or A Spec. Not only are they proven to be among the best (as far as reputation) sellers catering to 240SX owners, but they have also have quite a bit of knowledge and, in most cases, experience with their product line. Correspondence with them, in addition to searching this website as well as FreshAlloy, will allow you to make your choice an educated one.
Dousan's posts should also be of great help to you.
chmercer
08-12-2006, 07:19 PM
dude, how are you gonna plough in a 240 unless you have like 195 front 305 rear. understeer generated by a 2 way is only noticable if your car makes like 50 hp or if you try to drift by turning the steering wheel to lock and standing on the gas pedal. seriously, 2 way. say it with me. two way.
I've also done some searching for the Nismo GT Pro, and also a Nismo Time Trial LSD. They can both be had from japanparts.com. I was quoted $1100 for it shipped to my place. They have good reviews on this forum, check 'em out.
az_240
08-12-2006, 09:40 PM
Im pretty much sold on getting the cusco rs. Its not much more than the Kaaz and still cheaper than the Nismo GT Pro.
I dont think ill have any problems with the rs. seems to be a bulletproof lsd.
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