Fender rolling disaster...

[JaeTea]

So much like everything in my life a simple task of rolling my fenders turns into a complete cluster f.

My coilovers were completely frozen so it took like 2 hours just to drop the suspension to get the fender roller on.

First off I majorly creased the passenger side fender right above wheel well, above where the body line is. I need to know if theres a way to bang it back out from inside the trunk area before I tear my entire trunk apart. I tried pulling it out with a suction cup but no luck.

Then I decided to put new lug nuts on which apparently were the wrong pitch...after realizing this and taking them off I stripped all my wheel studs. Lovely.

I'm pretty sure God hates me. :sadwavey:

At least the roll came out perfect. :rofl:

[exitspeed]

Ah that sucks. That's one of the main reasons I hate working on cars. Shit nenver goes right. Something ALWAYS has to complicate things.

I'm used to it now though and just expect it.

Good luck.

[byhi]

pics?

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[ManoNegra]

Working in the cold? Did you use a heat gun or torch to soften the paint/metal? Pics would be nice. I've trashed studs before so now I have a few extra spares in case of emergency.

[JaeTea]

Working in the cold? Did you use a heat gun or torch to soften the paint/metal? Pics would be nice. I've trashed studs before so now I have a few extra spares in case of emergency.

I ordered a new set of studs thank god they're only like $1.00 a piece.

Cold...hardly. It was sunny, 91 out with about 50% humidity. I let the car sit in the sun until it got really f'ing hot then went to work.

The drivers side came out fine. The passenger side...not so fine. I'll try to get pics on my lunch break.

I don't know if I can just push it out from someplace inside the trunk area. I tried pulling it out with a suction cup but it doesn't want to stay cause of the roll of the damn fender.

[downshift_sideways]

I just recently stripped my studs too haha.
I was using an impact gun at work, without the safety socket.

lols, Just got done fixing them up last night.

[punxva]

yea show us a pic of where it is exactually, and how deep and such, it also depends if its creased or anything like that, also let me guess lol the sun was facing the drivers side

[ManoNegra]

Best best to fix it would probably be stud/puller kit... or have a body shop do it. I think Harbor Freight may sell them.

[McRussellPants]

Cold...hardly. It was sunny, 91 out with about 50% humidity. I let the car sit in the sun until it got really f'ing hot then went to work.



Hahah, thats not how it works man.

sitting in the sun will get the upper part of the fender as hot as the lip, your supposed to heat the lip of the wheel well not the upper fender. Make it easier for the lip to stretch without making it easy to flex the upper fender.

I got the dent in my fender out by stuffing a towel in there and rolling some more, it comes back when it sits in the sun after I took it out though.

[JaeTea]

OK I got pics. Suction cup ain't helping cause it just wants to pop back in.

http://www.level-03.com/zilvia/dent2.jpg

http://www.level-03.com/zilvia/dent.jpg

http://www.level-03.com/zilvia/dent3.jpg

Is there a way I can Van Damme kick the dent out through the trunk?

[Siizzzoooo]

:rofl::rofl:

[DaPCWiz]

wow, is that from you leaning up against the car while doing the rolling?

[A Spec Products]

ah the notorious dent

that one is kinda severe tho

what wheels u tryin to fit under there?

[n2motorsports]

your supposed to heat the lip of the wheel well not the upper fender. Make it easier for the lip to stretch without making it easy to flex the upper fender.


that is absolutely true, you got to heat the lip, that's the part being stretched. unfortunately, i learned the hard way too. i ended up pulling and bondoing.

[ayuaddict]

loosen up the metal around the dent with a body hammer so it dosent pop back in, and that looks like its in the worst possible place, if you cant reach it from inside just drill a hole to pull it out. regardless of the meathod you use to fix that, your going to need body filler, which is unfortunate because your paint looks pretty clean.

[JaeTea]

that one is kinda severe tho

what wheels u tryin to fit under there?

15x7.5 +4....Totally worth it. :rofl:

Anyways, does anyone know if I can get to the back of that through the trunk?

You can't get to it from under the fenderwall.

[DaPCWiz]

loosen up the metal around the dent with a body hammer so it dosent pop back in, and that looks like its in the worst possible place, if you cant reach it from inside just drill a hole to pull it out. regardless of the meathod you use to fix that, your going to need body filler, which is unfortunate because your paint looks pretty clean.

if that's the case, taking it to a paintless dent removal place might be a good option... I've seen some of the work those places do, its crazy.

[Shawn_of_the_Dead]

damn....I am needing to roll mine soon, too but that is the last thing I want to happen. Maybe I will use a heat gun on the lip and bags of ice on the upper fender...lol!

[spools14]

15x7.5 +4....Totally worth it. :rofl:


Or toally pointless. You don't need to pull the fedner to make those fit.

[A Spec Products]

15x7.5 +4....Totally worth it. :rofl:

Anyways, does anyone know if I can get to the back of that through the trunk?

You can't get to it from under the fenderwall.

:(

The "pull for the future" method eh? Hehe....

I'd use a dent puller at this point (the one with the welder sticks) but that's kinda overkill unless you're going to repaint it or ante up $$$ wise.

I think if you take off the panel next to the rear seats you can stick your hand in the hole where you can mount 6x9s and access it (iirc).

My hatch had a slight dent similar, I just lived with it.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Ouch...never seen that shiet before. Like said, try to see if you can pull the back seat panels and trunk side panels and see if you can access it. Looks like its right behind the damn strut towers tho. Iono, havent really looked behind that area. hopefully its kinda like S14s, where theres a gap large enough to stick your arm into.

[trybal]

ive seen that on plenty of cars with rolled fenders... i dunno if your gonna be able to just put that out, since you didn't stretch your fenders you bent them. You need filler.

[CaoBoY]

shouldnt have made such an 'extreme' pull for those rims. you coulda flattened the lip on the fenders and gotten away with it probably, maybe a SLIGHT pull. lesson learned, get some better rims, and over fenders an paint and you will be fine. or just live with it!

[JaeTea]

I think if you take off the panel next to the rear seats you can stick your hand in the hole where you can mount 6x9s and access it (iirc).

My hatch had a slight dent similar, I just lived with it.

Well you CAN get to the dent through the hole near the rear seat...problem is that it won't pop out no matter what, it just wants to keep going back in. Don't know if a paintless dent remover would even be able to push it out.

So I'm just gonna have to live with it.

BTW, the rims in the pic are obviously not the ones I'm going to be running. Just don't want people to think I'm a total moron, running sunken battleship rims and rolling the fenders to fit those. The rims in the pic are 15x7 +22 I think.

I guess I can get those 15x7.5 -5 offsets now. :hahano:

[TipStylez]

Heat it up with a heat gun, and push it out. But hold it in place and keep the heat gun on it for awhile while trying to push it out farther then its suppose to sit. By the time you finish messing around with it it should pop back into place.

[koukimonster139]

its just sheet metal. It can be returned to its original shape and position (most of the time) it just takes time and patience. you may have to stretch or shrink the metal, but it can be done. BTW you should never use more than an 1/8th of an inch of filler. just dont make it more complicated than it really is.
metal finishing FTW!!

[koukimonster139]

Well you CAN get to the dent through the hole near the rear seat...problem is that it won't pop out no matter what, it just wants to keep going back in.

BTW you have to stress relieve (beat on) the areas around the edges of the dent while pushing the dent out. this will "shock" the metal and cause it to break the surface tension in the areas that have become work hardened and stretched around the perimeter of the dent.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/haha.jpg

[!Zar!]

That pull has too much flair to it.

So it's almost pointless.

Next time, use a heat gun and work the fender slowly. Also make sure to clean the area where you are going to roll. If you get a rock stuck between the lip and the fender you will have small dents going around the lip.

And all you needed was a roll at most to fit those rims. 15x7.5 +4

[blk90s13]

haha jeff i told you watch out for those areas man


i have one on each side of my s13 gotta love fender rollers on hatch backs

[driftenthusiast]

:(

I'd use a dent puller at this point (the one with the welder sticks) but that's kinda overkill unless you're going to repaint it or ante up $$$ wise.

My hatch had a slight dent similar, I just lived with it.

Not overkill thats the correct way to do it.

[Pennyman]

BTW you have to stress relieve (beat on) the areas around the edges of the dent while pushing the dent out. this will "shock" the metal and cause it to break the surface tension in the areas that have become work hardened and stretched around the perimeter of the dent.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/haha.jpg

I saw this process done on a door of a suburban when I was working at the body shop, It worked for the most part, you might have a wave left over, but it will be much better.

Get your suction cup and pull the dent out as hard as you can, while tapping the outer edges of the dent with a body hammer. This will do what was stated above and help you out, hopefully.

Goodluck.

[mr_240sx]

or prying it out from the inside while taping the out side of the dent that way the metal will pop out and then stay out if done properly. you should only have to pop it once and the whole dent should come out.