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teamslut
07-21-2006, 04:12 PM
OK. I finally found someone that will past smog on a sr20 in Cali. what i want to know is, if a cop stops u and checks under the hood. will the car get impounded or will i get a fix it ticket, or is there nothing he can do about it. this will be a real help if someone helps out. should i do it or should i just get a ka24det. humm?

mistaanime
07-21-2006, 04:16 PM
they can get it impounded if they know what they are looking for..if they don't know, then they will send you to ref..Ka24det is safer..they will juss give you citation for a fix and send you to ref..

kensreliableb18b
07-21-2006, 04:21 PM
same shit. they'll just send you to a ref. wont impound you on the spot unless you're like at one of those smog checkpoints and all. go whichever way you want: sr or kat

trsilvias13
07-21-2006, 04:55 PM
Register your car as non-opt and trailer it to the track for fun. Spare the air.. it getting hot in Cali and elsewhere.

anyways, back to the subject, the car can get impounded for any reason. It is really up to the cop. These are like common sense question. It dont matter if it ka-t, sr20det, honda motor swap, wrx, supra, name a car that can be modify..... If you modify your car, a cop can say it look illegal and cant impound you.

Jung918
07-21-2006, 05:47 PM
I had my car on non-op status and dmv said that I can not trailer it. It pretty much can't be on any public roads.

trsilvias13
07-21-2006, 05:49 PM
That is wierd. When you trailer it the car is not on the road. You are suppose to be able to trailer it and bring it to a private event.

The trailer has it own registration and plate so that can be on the road.

I am confused???

bimmerlover
07-21-2006, 05:59 PM
Surprisingly, a lot of the employees that work at the DMV have no fucking clue what they're talking about.. the ones I went to, anyway.

SpeedMonkeyInc
07-21-2006, 06:13 PM
That is wierd. When you trailer it the car is not on the road. You are suppose to be able to trailer it and bring it to a private event.

The trailer has it own registration and plate so that can be on the road.

I am confused???

If the car is not registered, you can't have it on the street. At all.
You can get a temp. moving permit though so long as the car is registered to you.

mrmephistopheles
07-21-2006, 06:46 PM
If the car is not registered, you can't have it on the street. At all.
You can get a temp. moving permit though so long as the car is registered to you.

Having it on a trailer means it's not on the street. Basically, Non-Op'd cars cannot touch public roads at any time for any reason. They can be transported around from private land to private land, but are legally not permitted on a public street or highway at any time.

S13SilviaGirl
07-21-2006, 10:13 PM
also, make sure the trailer is one that is a flatbed and not one that just puts up the front 2 wheels with the back ones on the ground.

topsecretgold
07-21-2006, 10:33 PM
i think the best way to go is to look into registering the car in a smog exempt part of cali...for me its alpine, ca. Then rent a post office box and reg the car w/ the dmv, and just pick up your plates and cancel the temp mailing address. And if all else fails, make the swap look as stock as possible...shiny junk and bright colors are just asking for ref ticket. Im going rb25 next month so thats what i will be doing.

drift freaq
07-21-2006, 10:41 PM
i think the best way to go is to look into registering the car in a smog exempt part of cali...for me its alpine, ca. Then rent a post office box and reg the car w/ the dmv, and just pick up your plates and cancel the temp mailing address. And if all else fails, make the swap look as stock as possible...shiny junk and bright colors are just asking for ref ticket. Im going rb25 next month so thats what i will be doing.

only problem with that is the cops have full access to DMV records registration wise. If you cancel your mailbox and your in a totally different area the cops will pick up on it and start asking how come you have not updated your address on your registration.

topsecretgold
07-21-2006, 10:47 PM
only problem with that is the cops have full access to DMV records registration wise. If you cancel your mailbox and your in a totally different area the cops will pick up on it and start asking how come you have not updated your address on your registration.
So basically anyone who did this would have to just continue paying for the PO Box as long as they had the motor, so that it would all look legit?

usajdm
07-21-2006, 10:53 PM
You want to register it as a "RECREATIONAL VEHICLE". Non-op screams ILLEGAL. Recreational vehicles (ex. ATV, DIRT BIKES etc.) are not fit for street use, but with a cool cop and a good excuse like "Its been sitting in the garage for a few months and I just wanted to get it running". After an ID check, you usually just get told to take it home with no hood popping.

mobilesuit818
07-21-2006, 10:57 PM
OK. I finally found someone that will past smog on a sr20 in Cali. what i want to know is, if a cop stops u and checks under the hood. will the car get impounded or will i get a fix it ticket, or is there nothing he can do about it. this will be a real help if someone helps out. should i do it or should i just get a ka24det. humm?

Just a couple of things.
You are not only risking yourself, but your "hookup". Little history lesson for all of you, not you like guys care, but Smog technicians go through hell just to get their license, and get audited by BAR all the time.

So basically, if you get caught, cops CAN do a followup on the smog if it was just done, and get you and your smog guy screwed. So do the smart thing.

drift-it
07-21-2006, 11:11 PM
Just a couple of things.
You are not only risking yourself, but your "hookup". Little history lesson for all of you, not you like guys care, but Smog technicians go through hell just to get their license, and get audited by BAR all the time.

So basically, if you get caught, cops CAN do a followup on the smog if it was just done, and get you and your smog guy screwed. So do the smart thing.

They can do a followup but, the technicians could just say it was the stock motor when he came in. Because he could do a swap right after he gets it smogged.

Keep it rusty, cops don't know what there looking at. But time and time again people get pulled over and when they pop there hoods and the cops see bov's,fmic,polished aluminum,boost controllers and can make up some outrageous name for it. But it doesn't matter cops will send you to the ref. Keep it rusty.

theicecreamdan
07-22-2006, 01:34 PM
So basically anyone who did this would have to just continue paying for the PO Box as long as they had the motor, so that it would all look legit?

actually living in the place helps... or for me its having family that still lives there. also, Alpine etc is not smog exempt, you just don't have to do the bi-annual smog checks, you are still subject to smog laws.

kognition
07-22-2006, 02:00 PM
I think i told this story before about when i moved to S.D. last summer and i was
moving my rhd s14 silvia out on the road for the movers to have an unloading area in my driveway. I got a ticket from a cop actually driving down my street as i was moving the car back into my garage. I beat the ticket because i told the judge it was a race car, and the judge said that a race car does NOT need to be registered if it does not sit on the street with wheels on the ground. I said i was just moving it for the moving trucks and since the ticket had shown to be on my street, he knew i was not BSing him so he dropped it.

ALSO: If a cop has to look under your hood, he probably knows what to look for.

S13SilviaGirl
07-22-2006, 03:56 PM
Keep it rusty, cops don't know what there looking at. But time and time again people get pulled over and when they pop there hoods and the cops see bov's,fmic,polished aluminum,boost controllers and can make up some outrageous name for it. But it doesn't matter cops will send you to the ref. Keep it rusty.


FYI, Cops are being trained to look for SR/RB swaps now. They did it with hondas a few years ago and are now doing it with Nissans. Keeping it "rusty" isn't going to throw a cop off your trail.

KA24DESOneThree
07-22-2006, 04:12 PM
Cops DO know what SRs are, even in Temecula. I got pulled over and he mentioned "SR" while he was poking around under the hood. If you have chassis bracing he'll probably also be alerted to the fact that there might be illegal engine modifications.

If you have an SR and you get pulled over, chances are you're screwed. You know the fix? Don't run an SR. Don't run an illegal engine. If you get caught, it's your fault and you have to fix it.

Pissed? Appeal to the CARB, I'm sure they're totally willing to help.

drift freaq
07-22-2006, 06:55 PM
So basically anyone who did this would have to just continue paying for the PO Box as long as they had the motor, so that it would all look legit?

Problem with the P.O. box deal is sometimes the DMV asks questions if your license has a way different address. On top of that like Dan said it still does not get you out of CARB smog laws, it only gets you off the hook of dyno tuned bi annual inspections. Really there is no legal way to beat the rules, short of making your car an offroad vehicle and tracking it. Thats the way it is. At this point in time it might be worth while just to sell your SR or RB powered car and go get a 350z used.

drift-it
07-22-2006, 10:02 PM
FYI, Cops are being trained to look for SR/RB swaps now. They did it with hondas a few years ago and are now doing it with Nissans. Keeping it "rusty" isn't going to throw a cop off your trail.

In some places yes they do know, in Mira Mesa they have books with pics of illegal engines. If you run an illegal engine don't drive your car except to the track or shop.

trsilvias13
07-22-2006, 10:11 PM
Having it on a trailer means it's not on the street. Basically, Non-Op'd cars cannot touch public roads at any time for any reason. They can be transported around from private land to private land, but are legally not permitted on a public street or highway at any time.

That is how the law is.

If your backyard is big enough you can drive around in your back yard no problem. Also non-opt means you cannot park in the street, but you can park in your driveway.

ALTRNTV
07-22-2006, 10:23 PM
My friend recently got pulled over. The cop popped his hood and recognized his SR. He has a date with the State Ref next month. You gotta pay to play this game. It's already illegal, so don't try to keep finding loopholes.

Just don't drive like all crazy and stuff and you should be fine. In the event you still do get pulled over and get a Ref ticket, well, I guess that just wasn't your day.

confused916
07-22-2006, 11:33 PM
My friend recently got pulled over. The cop popped his hood and recognized his SR. He has a date with the State Ref next month. You gotta pay to play this game. It's already illegal, so don't try to keep finding loopholes.

Just don't drive like all crazy and stuff and you should be fine. In the event you still do get pulled over and get a Ref ticket, well, I guess that just wasn't your day.

in some ways its sucks to live in california, you can get hammered for almost anything! i could get a fix it ticket for my jdm half amber turn signals for not having them DOT legal. but in the end drive the speedlimit, dont draw attention you should be good to go.

PXRdriFT
07-23-2006, 02:45 AM
i have a couple questions...if you have out of state tags, can they send you to a ref? and if they do and they say you're car doesn't pass ca smog laws, what happens?

bigtiger1810
07-23-2006, 02:54 AM
you will either get a ticket(reffed) or he wont trip...

S13SilviaGirl
07-23-2006, 09:52 AM
i have a couple questions...if you have out of state tags, can they send you to a ref? and if they do and they say you're car doesn't pass ca smog laws, what happens?


If your in the state, you are bound by their laws. Just like I am held to japanese laws.

Best thing for everyone to do is read about your states laws on the website for your place of residence.

PXRdriFT
07-23-2006, 10:40 AM
yea but you're registered in japan. maybe i'll get lucky and won't get harassed with the plates.

samms95s14se
07-23-2006, 12:42 PM
i have a couple questions...if you have out of state tags, can they send you to a ref? and if they do and they say you're car doesn't pass ca smog laws, what happens?


I think if you know someone in a state with no smog checks and you have the car registerd in their name but on the pink slip you can be listed as the secondary owner you could just say your Aunt,Uncle,Cousin or whaterver is in town visiting and your driving it to the store or whatever. I think I'm going to do this with a relative in another state not that I have an RB or SR, but I do have non carb legal Hotshot headers and Intake plus just the hastle of going to a smog check place to find out your a couple percents off of something they check for and not pass.

86gonzo
07-23-2006, 12:56 PM
where is the guy that will pass your engine?

S13SilviaGirl
07-23-2006, 03:23 PM
yea but you're registered in japan. maybe i'll get lucky and won't get harassed with the plates.


The car is not here though. The car is stateside. Seriously, check out the CA DMV site. There is tons of info on it.