View Full Version : Kognition meter panels S13, S14
kognition
07-18-2006, 01:41 PM
This is the first of a 2 part summer GB. This is an open GB which means there is no minimum. We are the manufacturer. End date is July 29th!
Our meter panels are designed to hold multiple instruments and maintain structural integrity in high temp and high vibration environments. We have customers around the world using these panels. Constructed from 1/4" aluminum honeycomb core, bonded with vacuum infused fiberglass panels on both sides. The top panel features a dry carbon fiber finish in 2X2 twill.
S13: Requires silicone application underneath panel, it is tapered and fits flush mount.
S14: Drops in with no hardware.
Models available:
S13/ Blank / $35 shipped inside the USA
S13/ 2 hole / $45 shipped inside the USA
*Outside the USA add $5.00
S14/ Blank / $55 shipped inside the USA
S14/ 3, 4, 5, 6 hole / $65 shipped inside the USA
*Outside the USA add $5.00
Special cuts: $10 ea. Things like AVC-R and Defi Link controller we can do.
If you have something unique, we need exact dimensions. But we will do our best to cut what you need. We accept Paypal, our address is <
[email protected]> (619)961-8945 for technical questions on cuts.
http://www.kognitiondesign.com/GB_S13_meter_panel.jpg
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http://www.kognitiondesign.com/GB_S14_meter_panel.jpg
turtl631
07-18-2006, 03:45 PM
Wow, nice worksmanship and fair prices. I wish I hadn't just shelled out $40 for a new OEM S14 radio trim piece, I could have paid a bit more and gotten one of these and had a place to mount gauges, to boot.
ThatGuy
07-18-2006, 04:43 PM
You know I'm in for a S13 un-cut. :bow:
kognition
07-18-2006, 05:40 PM
Thank you. You can always purchase thru our authorized U.S. dealer in the future. Panda Garage dot com.
Wow, nice worksmanship and fair prices. I wish I hadn't just shelled out $40 for a new OEM S14 radio trim piece, I could have paid a bit more and gotten one of these and had a place to mount gauges, to boot.
skyhawk7311
07-18-2006, 06:28 PM
Are there any pictures of it installed in an s14?
ThatGuy
07-18-2006, 07:00 PM
Third picture down on the right is the panel installed in an S14 dash. As well as the bottom picture on the left.
D1champ
07-19-2006, 10:59 PM
I'm definately in for an uncut s13...just what I was looking for!
DrtyRat
07-20-2006, 06:28 AM
do we need to put in the paypal msg that we're from zilvia to recieve the special price?....lmk b/c I'm gonna order one today...oh and could you clarify on the silicone "thing" for the s13 panel?..I can't believe these prices!!!!
whooha1217
07-20-2006, 08:47 AM
is it possible to fit 5 60mm gauges, 1 52mm gauge, and defi link, also blitz turbo timer (about .75"x3" not exactly sure just a rough estimate) in there??? if so, how much would it cost me?
FOR S14
kognition
07-20-2006, 10:53 AM
Yes, make a note that this is for the Zilvia Group Buy. While the panel fits flush, putting a bead of silicone around the outer perimeter on the backside gives it the monkey grip to stay in. Comes with instructions as well.
do we need to put in the paypal msg that we're from zilvia to recieve the special price?....lmk b/c I'm gonna order one today...oh and could you clarify on the silicone "thing" for the s13 panel?..I can't believe these prices!!!!
kognition
07-20-2006, 11:04 AM
No, if 60mm gauges are involved, you can only fit 5 total on this panel and nothing more. Three across on the top, and two below that. Or three across on the top, and your defi link and turbo timer below that. Because of the size of the panel relative to a 60mm gauge, there isn't much room for structural material to exist between each meter hole. Price: Hole cut panel is $65, and two custom cuts are $20 = $85 shipped US or $90 shipped out of country.
is it possible to fit 5 60mm gauges, 1 52mm gauge, and defi link, also blitz turbo timer (about .75"x3" not exactly sure just a rough estimate) in there??? if so, how much would it cost me?
FOR S14
DrtyRat
07-20-2006, 11:29 AM
Yes, make a note that this is for the Zilvia Group Buy. While the panel fits flush, putting a bead of silicone around the outer perimeter on the backside gives it the monkey grip to stay in. Comes with instructions as well.
You got paypal!!! I can't wait b/c I've been wanting one of these for awhile but w/the price of cf going up and all I figured I would have to wait but then you came along and brightened up my day:love:
kognition
07-20-2006, 11:54 AM
I get that alot. Thanks.
You got paypal!!! I can't wait b/c I've been wanting one of these for awhile but w/the price of cf going up and all I figured I would have to wait but then you came along and brightened up my day:love:
What is GB 2. Also these look like they are clear coated or something mine is just dry carbon from Rare Trick Im still after the S-14 sunroof delete.
kognition
07-20-2006, 07:18 PM
You bought an early generation of our dry carbon panels, which had a kind of rough dry finish. Our new panels are made using a new process that gives it a clean hard finished surface that is not prone to scratches. It is the true dry carbon finish like that on the HKS dry carbon Evo.
*Rare Trick is no longer a dealer for our parts. Just an fyi.
Group Buy 2: Interior parts for the S14 guys, and one or two interior parts, and exterior B Pillars for the S13 guys
What is GB 2. Also these look like they are clear coated or something mine is just dry carbon from Rare Trick Im still after the S-14 sunroof delete.
whooha1217
07-20-2006, 10:04 PM
you wont be abel to make 3 60mm across the top, and 2 60mm on the bottom towards the side and 52mm in the middle?
and also if i have 5 gauges already, did you mean thats all i can get? i will not be abel to fit defi link unit on the bottom?
let me know, i'm interested in 2 sets
kognition
07-20-2006, 11:15 PM
The Defi unit would be positioned in a bend area of the panel, but i think we can do that.
RE: Meters
It would be a tight squeeze, and because of that, we would need to add an extra 2 layers of glass to compensate for surface area loss, but it can be done yes. You are really scrunching parts together though with 60mm. gauges. We will need some diameter numbers from you to make sure the gauges wont bump against eachother when seated.
you wont be abel to make 3 60mm across the top, and 2 60mm on the bottom towards the side and 52mm in the middle?
and also if i have 5 gauges already, did you mean thats all i can get? i will not be abel to fit defi link unit on the bottom?
let me know, i'm interested in 2 sets
whooha1217
07-21-2006, 10:52 PM
The Defi unit would be positioned in a bend area of the panel, but i think we can do that.
RE: Meters
It would be a tight squeeze, and because of that, we would need to add an extra 2 layers of glass to compensate for surface area loss, but it can be done yes. You are really scrunching parts together though with 60mm. gauges. We will need some diameter numbers from you to make sure the gauges wont bump against eachother when seated.
basicly i have 5 defi bf 60mm gauges and plus one AEM uego wideband gauge.... i dont know if you guys have the reading on that... but i can find in couple days...
also do u guys happen to have any pictures of finish product with 5 defi gauges on them....
kognition
07-21-2006, 11:20 PM
We really don't have a full set of meters in the shop right now to show how it would look, but i don't think it would be to hard to envision what it would look like. We are perfectionists here so if it can be done, we will make it look good.
I suggest anyone considering this buy to take advantage of our cutting services.
These panels are not that simple to cut yourself without the correct tools. And unless you make a paper template done correctly in a program like photoshop etc, to trace out your holes etc, misallignment is highly likely.
basicly i have 5 defi bf 60mm gauges and plus one AEM uego wideband gauge.... i dont know if you guys have the reading on that... but i can find in couple days...
also do u guys happen to have any pictures of finish product with 5 defi gauges on them....
Dousan_PG
07-22-2006, 01:49 AM
would u be able to do this:
1 cutout for a 60mm defi gauge (one guage)
1 cut out for the defi control box
1 cut out for a profec B greddy boost controller?
i can send u a pic of how i want it arranged.
it would be for a s14
also i have to see if u can do me a special project. ill pm you.
lmk
thanks.
kognition
07-22-2006, 11:49 AM
Sure, just pm the dimensions for it.
would u be able to do this:
1 cutout for a 60mm defi gauge (one guage)
1 cut out for the defi control box
1 cut out for a profec B greddy boost controller?
i can send u a pic of how i want it arranged.
it would be for a s14
also i have to see if u can do me a special project. ill pm you.
lmk
thanks.
kognition
07-24-2006, 07:38 PM
UPDATE: We will make available in G.B. part 2 next month, S13 and S14 gauge panels, which will fit into your gauge for mounting your meters and Tach. Same honeycomb core and dry carbon finish. Thank Dousan for passing that suggestion on. :2f2f: Those will run $105 shipped stateside, and $110 abroad.
Jookmasta
07-25-2006, 09:27 AM
well id love to see pics of those gauge panels that u have coming shortly. also, would there be any way for you to cut that piece for a normal din radio and an safc and a greddy MSS (is no bigger than a profec spec 2)? if not, what about just a normal din radio (in factory location) and an safc? this is for an s13 btw...........thanks in advance.
kognition
07-25-2006, 12:31 PM
We really need dimensions before we can answer your question. But if it fits under the radio, we can likely do the cuts.
RE:Gauge panel. We are working on that this week among other things.
well id love to see pics of those gauge panels that u have coming shortly. also, would there be any way for you to cut that piece for a normal din radio and an safc and a greddy MSS (is no bigger than a profec spec 2)? if not, what about just a normal din radio (in factory location) and an safc? this is for an s13 btw...........thanks in advance.
Jookmasta
07-26-2006, 10:20 AM
well here is what i have currently. ill have to get u the dimensions when i get back in town but here's to give ya an idea of how it would sit...........
TheWolf
07-26-2006, 03:08 PM
I've purchased a blank one from him and the quality is top notch. Awesome unit. Very Stealth!
kognition
07-28-2006, 03:27 AM
Glad you likey. :bigok:
I've purchased a blank one from him and the quality is top notch. Awesome unit. Very Stealth!
kognition
07-30-2006, 12:25 AM
Okay, this open G.B. has concluded.
We thank you for the interest and those of you who purchased.
Now, as a heads up for G.B. part 2 in August, mostly player parts. Interior S14 trim kit which consists of A/C Bezel, Radio Bezel with ashtray cover, shifter trim (auto or manual), and our highly regarded armrest cover. So this is a 5 piece set, and will run about $250. The fabric orientation is the same for each part in this kit.
S13, Outside B Pillars in carbon , armrest cover, and i am working on a cup holder drop in. This will take place mid august.
DrtyRat
07-30-2006, 06:33 AM
S13, Outside B Pillars in carbon , armrest cover, and i am working on a cup holder drop in. This will take place mid august.
this is exactly what i was hoping for, and as for the cup holder I was gonna pm you to see if you could make me one, but you beat me to it. I already purchased a blank s13 panel and I have to say it fits like it was a factory option. Great product, great job!
TipStylez
07-30-2006, 06:55 AM
Yeah i realy need a cup holder, but im not willing to pay for the 60buck ones on ebay. =] Keep us updated!
kognition
07-30-2006, 11:30 AM
Thanks for the great feedback guys. This is important to me to hear, as feedback is important to the evolution of a part.
I know this GB snuck up on several people that were trying to get their panel layout figured out. So we will run the meter panels again with our interior bling GB part 2 mid august (2 weeks). That should give you some time. But don't miss this, i only do it once a year. :2f2f:
koukispec
07-30-2006, 11:34 PM
could some1 post some pictures of how they look installed? :bow:
CleanS14
08-08-2006, 03:05 PM
When does GB Part II start?
DrtyRat
08-15-2006, 04:37 PM
Thanks for the great feedback guys. This is important to me to hear, as feedback is important to the evolution of a part.
I know this GB snuck up on several people that were trying to get their panel layout figured out. So we will run the meter panels again with our interior bling GB part 2 mid august (2 weeks). That should give you some time. But don't miss this, i only do it once a year. :2f2f:
Hurry up!! I can't wait to see how the cup holder looks!
A Spec Products
08-15-2006, 08:02 PM
mad sweet yo
i'll holla
You bought an early generation of our dry carbon panels, which had a kind of rough dry finish. Our new panels are made using a new process that gives it a clean hard finished surface that is not prone to scratches. It is the true dry carbon finish like that on the HKS dry carbon Evo.
*Rare Trick is no longer a dealer for our parts. Just an fyi.
Group Buy 2: Interior parts for the S14 guys, and one or two interior parts, and exterior B Pillars for the S13 guys
So who do I buy this sunroof delete from.
kognition
08-15-2006, 11:15 PM
Nobody, i stopped making them like 6 months ago. Not enough interest to waste my valuable time with. You should have bought one back then. :hammer:
So who do I buy this sunroof delete from.
CleanS14
08-15-2006, 11:55 PM
What about the rest of the stuff? You still going through with the GB Part II???
kognition
08-16-2006, 01:00 AM
I might be able to swing GB part 2 in about a week. We are slammed right now, and aside from trying to get my car ready for the December's Redline Time Attack, we are trying to get a splitter ready for our sponsored racer Stephen Mott's 350z. He is in the Silver State Classic next month. And the Redline event in December. Part one G.B. was not very good. And those were my meter panels. You guys need to jump this time around because i don't think i will do anymore of these GB's here. We are starting to produce high end race doors for the G35 and 350z in conjunction with VRT (Violent Racing Technologies) here in El Cajon to complement their JWT Twin Turbo buildups. That is a full time deal for us. So if i get too busy, i will probably drop all S14 parts production by January. We are ready to move on to bigger challenges. I'm sure you guys understand. And i have been happy to make these parts for your cars. But i'm ready to bump up
to the next level of seriousness.
What about the rest of the stuff? You still going through with the GB Part II???
Slidin240Wayz
08-16-2006, 10:39 AM
tear...tear.. do what you have to do.
CLEARANCE SALE!!!!
kognition
08-16-2006, 11:50 AM
Well, if making carbon fiber parts were like making computer chips or ipods, we would have a large stock of parts. But it is not. Carbon parts are hand made.
tear...tear.. do what you have to do.
CLEARANCE SALE!!!!
Slidin240Wayz
08-18-2006, 05:25 PM
I understand, I am supporting your step up in the game.
Make it happen!
Carlos
skyhawk7311
08-30-2006, 04:08 PM
SO whens the group buy going to happen?
misfitsfreak81
08-30-2006, 10:42 PM
yeah im intersted in the interior pieces as well as a custom gauge panel. hope its still gonna go through.
kognition
09-01-2006, 10:15 PM
Sorry guys,
I decided not to because as we are very busy trying to keep up with current orders and the production of new moulds. The S14 interior parts have been consolidated as a complete set now. They are: (1)A/C Bezel, (2)Radio Bezel, (3)Shifter Trim, (4)Armrest, (5)Steering Column cover, (6)Rectangular Door mirror panels, (7)Rearview Mirror cover (interior) and basemount cover.
Thank you for your interest. Perhaps in December i will run a GB. But i have too much going on right now.
S13Koop
09-05-2006, 08:06 PM
damn:(
I wish i saw this so long ago
skyhawk7311
09-05-2006, 08:41 PM
Yep i wish books didnt cost $900 so it makes me a sad panda.:wtc:
kognition
09-06-2006, 12:12 AM
Don't worry, i will do something in December which isn't too far off. I will give a month heads up in advance. I recently was presented with some challenging projects that are taking up most of our time. And we will be testing some new aero stuff for track.
//
Yep i wish books didnt cost $900 so it makes me a sad panda.:wtc:
BLiTz
09-07-2006, 01:36 AM
Yes please dont forget about the s14 after you pursue you future projects, i was extremely excited about purchasing interior parts from you!!!
DrtyRat
09-07-2006, 08:35 AM
Yes please dont forget about the s14 after you pursue you future projects, i was extremely excited about purchasing interior parts from you!!!
FWIW he's still selling them on his website. So if you wanted them that badly you could order them from him. Though I can understand wanting to wait for another gb. I got my blank s13 panel on the last gb and I'm hoping he still goes through w/the cup holder
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