View Full Version : SSR Professor SP1 17x9 +6 17x10 -1 5x114.3 set of 4 w/ tires
darrell
07-13-2006, 10:40 AM
SSR Professor SP1 17x9 +6 (72 mm lip) 17x10 -1 (123 mm lip). 235/40/17 Dunlop FM901 tires on all 4 wheels. Tread left 50%. Asking price $2100. Located in San Diego. Prefer local pick up.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/wildgummy/DSC00754copy.jpg
Front
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/wildgummy/DSC00759copy.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/wildgummy/DSC00735copy.jpg
Rear
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/wildgummy/DSC00760copy.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/wildgummy/DSC00733copy.jpg
DUBCITY
07-13-2006, 10:58 AM
pm sent
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hitman
07-13-2006, 01:00 PM
saw these in person, and they are freakin sick. bump.
iMAGE976
07-13-2006, 01:31 PM
do u have the center caps for all the tires??
vutony
07-13-2006, 01:34 PM
Are these the wheels that bomex and s2kwndll use to owned
p11driver
07-13-2006, 02:37 PM
the wheels on the bus go round round round
darrell
07-13-2006, 03:04 PM
do u have the center caps for all the tires??
I did not receive center caps when i bought the wheels.
Are these the wheels that bomex and s2kwndll use to owned
Im not sure. i bought them from Nizzan4u2nv. I think I'm like the 5th or 6th owner of these wheels.
CrazyIvan
07-13-2006, 03:58 PM
poor set of wheels must be feeling like a whore now... lol
JDM Junkyard
07-13-2006, 06:02 PM
can you show how much they stick out front and back? from a side shot? Thanks
gotta240
07-13-2006, 06:58 PM
yeah, how did you get those to fit?
overfenders, what?
thanks...
Nizzan4u2nv
07-13-2006, 08:25 PM
For the rears youll need 3.5 to 4* neg camber with stock rolled fenders. Fronts will fit rolled fenders no prob, very little camber.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/2216000-2216999/2216221_31_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/2216000-2216999/2216221_38_full.jpg
darrell
07-14-2006, 12:03 AM
can you show how much they stick out front and back? from a side shot? Thanks
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j76/wildgummy/DSC00755copy.jpg
The wheels fit more "flush" on Nizzan4u2nv's car since his car is lower and he's runnin more camber than I am.
SPX-13
07-14-2006, 10:38 AM
^ Those front tires look like far less than %50 tread.
These wheels look very nice, but they sell brand new for $1720, and considering these have had 5-6 owners, $2100 seems a little steep for cast 17s. (Mabey for Meisters).
Just FYI, i recently purchased a brand new set of 18x9 18x10.5 SP1s for $1800 shipped with centercaps.
JDM Junkyard
07-14-2006, 10:51 AM
^ Those front tires look like far less than %50 tread.
These wheels look very nice, but they sell brand new for $1720, and considering these have had 5-6 owners, $2100 seems a little steep for cast 17s. (Mabey for Meisters).
Just FYI, i recently purchased a brand new set of 18x9 18x10.5 SP1s for $1800 shipped with centercaps.
Where can you still order SP1's at? Just price checking.
Ricks15
07-14-2006, 10:57 AM
I seen that Tirerack.com carrys SSR wheels.
darrell
07-14-2006, 11:17 AM
^ Those front tires look like far less than %50 tread.
These wheels look very nice, but they sell brand new for $1720, and considering these have had 5-6 owners, $2100 seems a little steep for cast 17s. (Mabey for Meisters).
Just FYI, i recently purchased a brand new set of 18x9 18x10.5 SP1s for $1800 shipped with centercaps.
One side of the tires was worn due to camber so I had them flipped. The inner side of the tires have far more tread left.
I also would like to know where they sell brand new for $1720.
SPX-13
07-14-2006, 11:50 AM
http://www.gruppe-s.com/SSR/SSRProfessor.htm
$420 for the 17x9 and $440 for the 17x10 = $1720 for the set
These wheel have always been this price and im sure they will continue to be.
SSR was bought by Tanabe Japan, so the wheel has been re-released. Gruppe-S has already done an initial buy through them for my350z.com.
JDM Junkyard
07-14-2006, 12:00 PM
In light of this info. I'll offer $1300 picked up for the wheel/tire. Let me know if you want to sell for that price. Thanks
SPX-13
07-14-2006, 12:37 PM
same wheels in 19x9 and 19x10.5 brand new for $1750 shipped
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=203277
Flybert
07-14-2006, 12:50 PM
If I recall, the original owner got these from team orange which means that they got them in japan and are true semi solid forged SSR SP1's rather than the US sold SP1 which are cast. The seller just needs to find out this info. If it's forged and they are in perfect condition, that price isn't tooooo bad but if it's cast, that price is horrible.
SPX-13
07-14-2006, 02:24 PM
If I recall, the original owner got these from team orange which means that they got them in japan and are true semi solid forged SSR SP1's rather than the US sold SP1 which are cast. The seller just needs to find out this info. If it's forged and they are in perfect condition, that price isn't tooooo bad but if it's cast, that price is horrible.
SSR Japan NEVER made forged SP1s, that is a fact. Where did you ever hear that? I have owned 4 sets of SP1s since they came out over 5 years ago. Some came straight from SSR Japan and some came from USA dealers, they were all the same, and SSR Japan has always offered only one version of SP1 which were cast and were priced the same as any SP1 I got stateside. The reason why these have always been an affordable 3-piece wheel was because they are cast. People that want forged go with the Meisters, basically the same wheel except forged. Minor differences between USA SP1s and Japans SP1s were colors and the SSR Logo that came on the spoke, but that was it, price was pretty much exactly the same, which could never be achieved if the wheel was cast. Some could argue that mabey they made a small number of forged SP1s for shops/motorsports, but SSR would never spend the tens of thousands of dollars to create the forging dies and to not release the wheel to the public.
****EDIT****
Flybert, I misread your post. As a matter of fact, yes, these SP1s and all SP1s are "semi-solid forged". "Semi-solid forged is just a fancy way of casting, but probably the best casting. Nontheless, all SP1s are and have been SSF.
Semi-solid forged = Cast
Forged = Forged
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/ssr/ssr_info.jsp
Nizzan4u2nv
07-14-2006, 03:57 PM
Gruppe-s sizing is not consistent with the sizing on rd-tanabe. Gruppe has 17x10 -1 only has a 59mm lip whereas these are 123mm. Gruppe 17x9 +6 has the same 72mm lip though. These wheels were custom made for msports japan(custom gold, which costs more). The first 4 onwer's never even used these wheels. The 3rd owner only mounted the tires, and sold them to the owner before me which didnt even have a car to put them on.
Nizzan4u2nv
07-14-2006, 04:10 PM
In light of this info. I'll offer $1300 picked up for the wheel/tire. Let me know if you want to sell for that price. Thanks
You mine as well buy from gruppe-s.:wavey:
JDM Junkyard
07-14-2006, 04:13 PM
Custom color is stated to be $20+ per wheel
And Gruppe-s looks just to have copied the heading on the 2nd row wrong.
My price stands, and I can pick up on Saturday if you are still interested in selling them.
JDM Junkyard
07-14-2006, 04:14 PM
You mine as well buy from gruppe-s.:wavey:
Well brand new price is my cost on Works Miesters technically. But I'm looking for something different. I already have miesters on my other car.
http://www.jtuned.com/media/photobox.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=541&text=&imageid=14210&box=&shownew=
SPX-13
07-14-2006, 04:19 PM
My intentions are not to ruin this thread, but only clear up some inccorect information.
First off, Gruppe-s' offset table is off, thats it. Call them and check. If you compare the gruppe-s table with the SSR Japan one you can see that the person at Gruppe-s who copied and pasted it just screwed up, the repeated the top row on the bottom, so all the lip sizes are off.
Bottom line is that any 17x10 -1 SP1 will have a 123mm lip, there is nothing "custom" about these wheels as far as size and offset go. The color is the only thing different than what SSR normally offers, but how much can you really add on top of MSRP for color? Yes these wheels look great and in very good condition, but they are USED, there is now way around that.
Im done as long as there is no more false info posted.
SPX-13
07-14-2006, 04:25 PM
You mine as well buy from gruppe-s.:wavey:
I guess youve just rerouted all the potential buyers. Why pay more for something used when you can get it brand new for less?
Nizzan4u2nv
07-14-2006, 04:26 PM
I dont see anyone posting false info. Read my post. Did I say they were custom size? no. Is gruppe s information wrong? Yes. You say ssr never made forged ssr, but in the second paragraph you write semi solid forged. Forged is forged whether or not their techniques is close to casting. If you dont wanna pay that price, you dont have to, simple as that.
JDM Junkyard
07-14-2006, 04:34 PM
Whatever the case maybe. Good luck on your sale.
SPX-13
07-14-2006, 04:45 PM
I wasnt saying that you had posted up any false info, just the fact that you guys are making these wheels out to be some "special" SP1s, when they are the same as any other that anyone can order through a shop for less than you are asking. Ok, pay the extra $ for a different color, but it still doesnt touch the price that is being asked. And then the fact the seller claims the tires have 50% tread, but im sorry, a tire with inner or outer camber wear beyond the tread patch qualifies for having 0% tread left.
And about your comment on forging vs. semi solid forging, mabey we should just make another thread instead of ruining this one, but Semi-Solid Forged != Forged TE37s and Meisters are forged, these are not. They can legally call it semi-solid forging, but the reason why they can sell it for prices that match cast wheels, is because it is a form of casting. They melt the metal, they dont form it. Anyways, if it was a true forge or even close then i think everyone would be rolling on SSRs and Work would definatly be out of business.
Let the man sell his wheels, but mabey he should rethink his asking price.
SPX-13
07-14-2006, 04:52 PM
hey man,
im only giving out usefull info to anyone that is interested in these wheels. I dont want them to justify spending more money for mis-leading info (i didnt say false). People are going to think they are buying some speacial one-off forged wheels produced for some JDM shop or team, but in fact these are the same wheel that anyone can order right now. Im only looking out for fellow zilvians, i dont think there is anything against that. But go ahead and swear all you want.
Oh and give me negative rep points for posting the facts --- real mature.
Team Rootbeer
07-14-2006, 05:01 PM
damn, someone buy this shit..........and why does everyone care ab cast/forged/whatthefuckever. you guys gonna use them on your race car? doubt it......
free bump for some of the hottest wheels on zilvia
gotta240
07-14-2006, 05:23 PM
SPx - 13 is just stating facts...dont know why you guys are flaming him...he seems to know his shit more than 99.9 percent of peeps on here.
btw-nice wheels.
Flybert
07-14-2006, 05:40 PM
It really sounds like SPX-13 knows what he is talking about and it sounds like he trying to protect the zilvia community from getting ripped off. I've done the same in the past and it's good to know there are people out there trying to help others from getting swindled.
I think I may have confused the difference between SSR professor SP1 and the SSW professor SP1 that tirerack sells. The SSW is a regular cast process (not semi solid forged).
I never knew these wheels were so cheap. Did they drop in price at one point because I thought they were mad money back in the day.
'90RPS13
07-14-2006, 05:53 PM
Well, I remove my remark. Please do excuse me. I appreciate the link to Gruppe though, I have been searching high and low for a decent set of Work VSXX's. Glad to see they still are producing. *a
S13SilviaGirl
07-15-2006, 09:05 AM
His asking price is just that...an ASKING price. If you are not interested in his wheels then please keep comments to yourself. 3/4 of this thread should have been taken to PM and not turned into what it has. No more arguing over the pricing or the next person that does is getting pinked for 3 weeks. You want to haggle over price...use the PM feature. If he decides to lower it, he will post it as a lower price.
The heads up is appreciated, but, it should not have been drug out this long.
MOUNTAINGARAGE
07-20-2006, 03:17 PM
So whats up Darrell? price still the same?? Looks like the edge on the front tire is on it's second layer of rubber?
Nice wheels.
darrell
07-21-2006, 12:05 AM
After all was said and done, despite the controversy, the wheels were sold quick and easy without a problem.
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