Aluminum wing on S14

[r2o4b0sx]

I was just wondering what everyone's opinions are of aluminum spoilers on the 240. Specifically the 95-96 240. I saw one picture of a 95 with shogun kit, silver rims, and alum. spoiler and it didn't look that bad... from the front. The back is a different story. Any links or pics would be great of what everyone likes, or dislikes.

thankyou,
-Rob <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

[DSC]

"what do you guys think?"

I think they are stupid. &nbsp;One of the worst forms of rice for your car.

Don't get one...please.

[kurissuS13]

omg...... &nbsp;

pls tell me ur joking...

well, do whatever u want to ur car. &nbsp;i can't stop u from want u want to do. &nbsp;IMHO, i'd put that if i was actually capable of going fast enough for an aluminum wing to make a difference, really.

just pls don't get the matching nozzle lites.

[s13driver]

as long as you like it.. it is all good.. what others think is not that important, it is what you think and decide to do matters.

[blink0r]

Ugly/pointless.

Don't buy one unless your car's extremely modified, otherwise it's just added weight and takes away from the looks of your car.

[jupiterl]

I have one on my car ( Cusco that I got it from HongKong ) It doesn't look that bad, and I think it is functional at some way. Some people think it's stupid ... but it's your own taste. I think it looks way way better than on a civic or integra.

[Yosho]

I don't get it... how are wings any different than all the other style mods that ppl on here seem to like (tail lights, JDM Silvia front end, Body skirts, Front bumpers, aero mirrors... the list goes on and on).

As long as you know it's a style mod... I'd say get it if you think it looks good.

[silviasichigo]

First you should already know the question this thread is based on is opinion. If you are trying to get peoples opinion so you can make your decision then that is on you. I personally Have a wing I could care less what any one thinks about it. I think I have one of the nicest looking cars on this forum. (That is my opinion) My Silvia look at the wing do you think it is functional? (http://community.webshots.com/user/silviasichigo)Question is does it matter? No but it sure looks good.

Point is if YOU like it go with it. I think the GT wing looks good on the 95 I have friend with it and it looks nice.

[flipboi13]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (s13driver @ June 13 2002,12:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">as long as you like it.. it is all good.. what others think is not that important, it is what you think and decide to do matters.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
NO! WRONG! Whatever you do, don't put one on your car. It looks really bad unless you go to shows or something. I don't even see why these stupid things are being sold for in the first place? Just some stupid poor asian couldn't afford a real spoiler so he made one out of aluminum foil, and other ricers thought it looked cool....

BTW: I'm asian but i hate dumb asians anyway!!
(s13driver, i agree with you, and i don't mean to rag on you, just trying to emphasize my point)

[will]

They look like ass, period! even worse on S13's &nbsp; As far as
-will &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[tnord]

they're badass, if...............if it's a fully purpose built race car. do you have one of these?

[Rownan]

I had a 5" high, 56" wide dual carbon fiber wing fitted to my car during the last show I was in and it looked REALLY GOOD. &nbsp;People were giving me compliments on it and it wasn't even secured onto the car.. &nbsp;I swear it looked sweet. &nbsp;I didn't buy it though cause it was expensive and I'd rather spend that money on other things, not to mention I like my little C-west mini spoiler. &nbsp;This carbon fiber wing was like $350, it was JSP and only weighed like 5 frickin pounds! &nbsp;I picked up an aluminum wing and it was HEAVY! &nbsp;I would never put that on my car. &nbsp;I like the look though.

[West]

Unless your to actually get a wing that was built for your car then they serve no purpose. A universal wing will more then likely not give you any beneficial downforce. Even if you get a fully functional one built for your car such as a Cusco or whoever your still going to look stupid. If your thinking of putting one of these on your car then chances are you don't care about downforce and your yet to graduate from High School. If for some reason you are concerned with downforce and not to "Look Cool" then you will have more benefits from adding a Chin spoiler or rear diffuser to aid the aerodynamics of your car.

Why would you want something on your car that purely screams for attention. I see no other benefit from putting these on your car other then screaming to the cops arrest me or screaming hey look at me im a boy racer!

N-Sync and the Backdoor Boys put wings like that on their cars.

[S13Grl]

Unless you can do over 150mph, you're better off putting that thing on your wall and storing CDs on it.

Maybe CDs such as N'Stynk and Buttstreet boys.

[blaqsilvia]

photos from my car when I experimented on that style wing[now i have my lovely supra wing back on my car]-- I had a Focuz single deck Gt aluminum wing... its for sale if anyone would like- and its carbon fibered now too.. $150 o/bo...

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ebnerscarpet/1s.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ebnerscarpet/3s.jpg

[S14lover]

Wings are very gay!!!!!...we can all thank fast and the furious for that little gem of import tuning... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

[DSC]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S14lover @ June 12 2002,2:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Wings are very gay!!!!!...we can all thank fast and the furious for that little gem of import tuning... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I'd say it was the opposite. &nbsp;

That was the one thing F&F captured accurately...the grose overuse of wings.

We can thank F&F for the increase in decals though <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

[tnord]

i think i'm gonna hurl

[blaqsilvia]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ June 13 2002,12:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i think i'm gonna hurl</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

[will]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ June 12 2002,1:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i think i'm gonna hurl</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/puke.gif

-will &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[blaqsilvia]

Time to hurl more <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

http://www.deepvision.net/julia/images/julia240sx4.jpg

[RubbaBurna1017]

Ok, this is gettin old. &nbsp;I used to have an MKIII and I had an APR aluminum Drag wing in it, it did haver=a purpose and it did create down force. &nbsp;Another thing I am sick of is people usin the word "Rice". &nbsp;It is such an over used ter these days. If you were to goto Japan and see a stock lookin Evo6 with an Aluminum wing would you call it rice. &nbsp;I think not. I had the privilage to goto the Tokyo Auto Salon and a lot of the things that we call Rice over here are catchin on over there (Altezza lights, and yes washer nozzles) So as we strive to be like the japanese would we be kinda hipocritical(spl)

[flipboi13]

F&F was a pretty damn good comedy! I always laugh when i think about it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> Bwawawaaawa

The Japanese tuners have a certain style when it comes to looks. &nbsp;They go all out of the norm to make it unique but still tasteful. &nbsp;Stupid people in the US (especially asians) like to slap on aluminum wings and stickers so they can show off their ride with no taste was-so-ever.

(BTW: I am 100% asian, but I am also an asian hater so bleh <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'>)

[tnord]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RubbaBurna1017 @ June 13 2002,6:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok, this is gettin old. I used to have an MKIII and I had an APR aluminum Drag wing in it, it did haver=a purpose and it did create down force. Another thing I am sick of is people usin the word "Rice". It is such an over used ter these days. If you were to goto Japan and see a stock lookin Evo6 with an Aluminum wing would you call it rice. I think not. I had the privilage to goto the Tokyo Auto Salon and a lot of the things that we call Rice over here are catchin on over there (Altezza lights, and yes washer nozzles) So as we strive to be like the japanese would we be kinda hipocritical(spl)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
you're right, i wouldn't call a stock lookin Evo with a big alum. wing rice, i'd call it a shame. and a drag wing? are you serious? in reference to drag racing; the only time a wing does anything is at higher speeds, which is exactly the time when you're NOT having traction problems and exactly the time when you do NOT want excess drag, so yes, that drag wing of yours served oh so great a purpose. and if you want to be just like the japanese with their "look at me" washer LED's, tin foil taillights, and swingset wings, by all means, go to japan, and join them.

thank you and come again.

[nrcooled]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RubbaBurna1017 @ June 13 2002,7:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok, this is gettin old. I used to have an MKIII and I had an APR aluminum Drag wing in it, it did haver=a purpose and it did create down force. Another thing I am sick of is people usin the word "Rice". It is such an over used ter these days. If you were to goto Japan and see a stock lookin Evo6 with an Aluminum wing would you call it rice. I think not. I had the privilage to goto the Tokyo Auto Salon and a lot of the things that we call Rice over here are catchin on over there (Altezza lights, and yes washer nozzles) So as we strive to be like the japanese would we be kinda hipocritical(spl)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
what are you talking about?

1. In Japan a lot of American trends catch on and in America a lot of Japanese trends catch on. &nbsp;

2. On a MKIII it probally didn't make any down force but if it makes you happy to think so well....good for you

3. Yes it is a matter of opinion but on a board that is performance oriented that would be the wrong question to ask if you wanted an unbiased opinion

Cliff's notes:
-stupid trends catch on everywhere
-no high speed=no downforce
-wrong place to ask stupid questions

[Yosho]

Since the concensus on this board seems to feel wings make no difference on a RWD car... (That's just stupid.) &nbsp;I'd like to ask a simple question. &nbsp;Where did you all get this notion? &nbsp;

What applications are you talking about?

What wings have you experimented with... driving sections of the same course at the same speed several times stopping to tune the wings and then tried those same sections without a wing?

If you guys were all to make the argument that the average owner of a wing doesn't take the time to test and tune it... or doesn't need it's potential performance gains... I'd probably agree, but the average owner will probably just tell you it's for looks (which is no different than any of the other style mods that seem acceptable here). &nbsp;To say that wings don't do anything though is wrong.

[tnord]

"Since the concensus on this board seems to feel wings make no difference on a RWD car"
who said that? the problem is that the same people that buy these wings are the same people that just dilly dally around on the street, or are drag racers. neither of these groups of people have any use for such a contraption. notice my first post
"they're badass, if...............if it's a fully purpose built race car."

"What wings have you experimented with... driving sections of the same course at the same speed several times stopping to tune the wings and then tried those same sections without a wing?"

only big time race teams do such a thing, and weekend racers with way too much money, neither of these groups of people are present on this board. and besides, driving a section of a track is worthless. the extra downforce created to provide more grip through a complex is the same downforce that reduces your straightaway speed, which is far more important.

as for acceptable style mods.......about the only thing i can think of is clear corners, tinted windows, cf hood, and lightweight wheels. if you ask me, any form of body kit or bumper, taillights, led nozzle's, aero mirrors, etc.......are just rediculous. unless of course you get in a wreck and insurance gives you a big fat check.

[JEdubz]

Just an observation... not to say anything about newbies because I'm still listed as one...but almost everyone that has been defending alumirice wings have had the Newbie Status... and seems like everyone who is a newbie says things like "Whatever makes you happy" if its going to make you happy either way then dont fucking ask us. We are just going to make fun of you. And thats really cool if you think using a wing that looks like it belongs on an F1 (actually F1's really do have aluminum wings lol) but with the money you spend on your rice piller, we will have a performance mod, and the only down force you'll get is your self esteem getting forced down into your stomach as one of us blows you off. &nbsp;(literally I would just buy a BOV with the money) anyway...RICE RICE RICE. dance on it trick.

[flipboi13]

Who said rice? &nbsp;Looks around.. u better not be fucking with me!! Where's the rice!!!

[s13rookie]

i like the look of SOME wings on SOME cars. &nbsp;i plan on putting an aluminum wing on my s13 coupe after i take care of a few other things. &nbsp;i will like the look of it, you may HATE the look of it. &nbsp;but i drive the car, YOU dont. &nbsp;and as far as this being a "PERFORMANCE ORIENTED BOARD" &nbsp;why do i see so many posts about " how do i paint my interior"? i plan to put a wing on my car because i feel it will make it look better, i could care less if it makes a differance in downforce, and if i am SO concerned about the 6lbs ectra weight, i will remove all the loose change from under my seat.

[Cam]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ June 13 2002,12:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the same people that buy these wings are the same people that just dilly dally around on the street, or are drag racers.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
This is true. And odds are, if you're a serious drag racer you're not gonna be in here asking US what we think about them... And if you do decide to get one, please don't put it on upside down like the jackass I saw last week! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> How embarrassing... wish I got a pic.

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yosho @ June 13 2002,9:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Since the concensus on this board seems to feel wings make no difference on a RWD car... (That's just stupid.) I'd like to ask a simple question. Where did you all get this notion? </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Do you mean to suggest that APC does testing to insure their wings are aerodynamically sound? &nbsp;Those things are a joke! &nbsp;The wings you see on a street car bear little resemblence to those on real race cars. &nbsp;Second, the idea that a single rear wing is suited to RWD cars, in general, is laughable. &nbsp;Third, there actually have been a few people who have tested wings on s14's - just to the extent of what it took to get into the air flow (yup - someone had limited access to a wind tunnel). &nbsp;The off the shelf ricepaper wing doesn't even come close. &nbsp;hell, one magazine test showed that most aftermarket wings actually created LIFT!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yosho @ June 13 2002,9:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What wings have you experimented with... driving sections of the same course at the same speed several times stopping to tune the wings and then tried those same sections without a wing?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I don't know anyone who races that does this with aero parts. &nbsp;Why? &nbsp;1) they are more worried about driving skill (which WILL make a big difference in your speeds) than tuning a wing; 2) as Travis stated, simply driving a section is no indication of the wings overall utility; 3) no access to wind tunnel and/or reliable empiracal data on the subject; and 4) most people lack the budget to buy a truckload of universal fit wings to test them for minimal gains (let alone the R&D to make a functional one).

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yosho @ June 13 2002,9:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you guys were all to make the argument that the average owner of a wing doesn't take the time to test and tune it... or doesn't need it's potential performance gains... I'd probably agree, but the average owner will probably just tell you it's for looks (which is no different than any of the other style mods that seem acceptable here). To say that wings don't do anything though is wrong. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I would say ONLY well funded racing teams properly test and tune it and need its performance gains. &nbsp;However, the average owner, as we've seen, loves to claim how much downforce it gives them. &nbsp;However, I think once you get into a style debate, as we have here, the consensus is that wings are a) played out; b) tacky; c) non-functional; and d) uniquely showy b/c it hangs up there for all the world to see. &nbsp;Agreed, to say that off the shelf wings don't do anything may be wrong (depending on model), however, it sure as heck doesn't mean they do anything RIGHT - especially on a street car.

[Kreator]

Well i don't see anything wrong with putting an alluminum wing on, except that everyone is gonna call you a ricer. If that's ok with you, feel free.

I actually like the way alluminum wings look on our cars. Would I ever put one on mine? No way. Cuz if i did, it'd just bring me closer to the civic boys, from whom i tried to separate by bying a 240sx

P.S. Wings that actually make your performance better cost $1000-$2000... For $200 a fart pipe would do more.

[s14vaxlr8]

if you like the wing, put it on,

i agree some are hideous and dont match at all

but i do know a guy with a 240 with an apr viper style wing, not high at all and it look decent

body mods (unextreme) are all subject to the opinion of the driver,

i gaurentee if we saw eachother on the board and saw the way probably half of us dress or look, we would be tentative to "flame" that person also, but its all in opinion. &nbsp;

but if your wing is going to higher than your sunroof when its propped open, that just rediculous

[Kreator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (s14vaxlr8 @ June 14 2002,2:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">but if your wing is going to higher than your sunroof when its propped open, that just rediculous</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LOL. that reminded me of an early 90's toyota tercel with a supra wing that i saw a couple weeks ago. That thing was good 2-3 inches higher than tercel's roof <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (s14vaxlr8 @ June 14 2002,2:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">but if your wing is going to higher than your sunroof when its propped open, that just ridiculous</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
...of course, that's the only way you might get any performance benefit from it...

Otherwise agreed. &nbsp;You won't convince me that non-functional body work isn't rice or that tattoos are a good idea. &nbsp;You couldn't convince others they aren't the best idea.

Mark
-who thinks anything that doesn't result in better performance is a waste of money and shops at Brooks Brothers &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'>