AWD rb26dett nissan 240sx

[ghostracing]

hey everyone i dont kno why but im starting a godzilla project yea the one everyone talks about doin but only few have except with this project i want to make the 240sx AWD thats right i wanna keep the rb26 trans and modify the car to fit has anyone ever heard of this bein done--- and before anyone starts sayin that the idea is stupid or that its gonnna be outrageously expensive i kinda already kno that lol im tryin to create a drag car i already have a 180sx for the drifting now i need somethin for drag--i pretty much want the launch that they skyline has when it takes off. if anyone has annyyyy info please let me kno ---also ill take opinions good or bad.

[SoSideways]

Be prepared to cut the front end up and sourcing R-chassis front suspension parts to work with the front axles and all that.

It is so impractical to do this, that this is pretty much a ridiculous idea.

That's why no one has done it.

If you want AWD, pick up a 1g DSM for like $2000 and drop the clutch at 6000rpm all you want. They'll take it for a few runs, then break, then you just buy another transfer case for like $100 and put it on, and repeat.

Beats having to pretty much weld on a Skyline front chassis to an S-chassis just to have AWD.

[ghostracing]

so pretty much u dont think that doing this would create a quicker drag car at all---the welding part isnt a problem because --well i weld lol so thats not a issue i guess i need pictures of a cut r-chassis and a s-chassis to see just how different they are like a cross secton view to see what mods i have to do

[mrmephistopheles]

you'd be better off just using an R32 GTR.

[boroboros14]

Not worth it IMO, buy a skyline

[reflexdb]

like others have said, the modifiations required to do this would take such a long time, not to mention cost, warrent simply buying a skyline.

[ghostracing]

skyline is way tooo expensive and its normal--gotta go for whats rare and is done as much plus to buy a skyline in this area is hell all the thousand dollars worth of legalizing theres only 1 guy in md/dc that has one maybe 2

[KrazyZenki]

if your trying to build a drag car you already have the perfect setup a light weight RWD car. AWD is nice and all but can only get you so far. Look at John Shepard he has probably the baddest AWD drag car and hes only running mid 8s(8 secs is extremely fast dont take it out of context when I say only) What are the fastest cars in the 1320? RWD With good tires, proper suspension and.......you can get that AWD launch your looking for. If you go over to DRAG240SX.com theres people cutting 1.5 60 foots with street tires and EVOs have a hard time cutting 1.5s. Mickey Thompson E/T streets for example have taken some car to [email protected]ph in the 1/4 so something around a 1.1-1.2 60 foot. My point is if you want a purpose built drag car stay RWD and put the money you were going to spend on r-chassis parts and fabrication and put it towards tires, suspension, axles, diff, .....and get those sub 1.6 60 foots your looking for.

[sblack13]

so your afraid that a skyline gtr will be expensive? But your trying to attempt and AWD RB26 240SX? That is not going to be cheap. I think i'm going to be answering the same questions, after 3F 3F.

[slider2828]

Come on if you watch option video #34, the Jun 240sx have a quarter mile on 8.08 secs. Read the specs on that, and it uses an SR20DET with a 2.2 litre upgrade a T88, etc etc etc... No NOS....

[DJPimpFlex]

yea for high end drag cars, AWD actually slows you down. To much driveline rotation.

[RedSuns]

Get ready to spend a lot more money than you plan on. This was attempted once but given up on because of the cost. Different..yes, Worth it....no.

[ThatGuy]

I saw a Fastback on "EGay" a long time ago that supposedly had the AWD swap started. The front end of the car was about 3 feet off the ground to make room for the front drive shafts and such. I'm fairly certain, in this day and age, if it hasn't been done already, it's probably not worth it. Unless we are talking new technology, but we're not. The RB26 has been swapped into MANY s-chassis. There is a reason they went with RWD trannies.

[mrmephistopheles]

skyline is way tooo expensive and its normal--gotta go for whats rare and is done as much plus to buy a skyline in this area is hell all the thousand dollars worth of legalizing theres only 1 guy in md/dc that has one maybe 2

You clearly aren't working from a knowledgable standpoint.

1. If maintaining a low budget is a concern, building an AWD 240sx is not feasible.
2. If this is going to be a track-only drag car (which it would have to be, due to the excessive modification required for a 240sx), the Skyline wouldn't have to be legalized, as it's a racecar.
3. What's the problem with what's normal? I thought the object of drag racing was to go fast, not to be unique. If unique is what you want, build a showcar.

[McRussellPants]

Why not just fab up some "Skyvia" badges and tell all your friends its AWD... if they think on the same level as you they won't notice... ever.

[!Zar!]

Every so often a thread like this pops up.

And every thread that does, ends in jibberish.

awd + 240 = stupid.

Has it been done? Maby, But whoever did it must've had a shitload of money to waste on making a 240 wannabe skyline.

240's are ment to be rwd.

But then again, since you're the one with a 180sx, I could be wrong. :D

[SiI40sx]

Your so ignorant, the only people with the capacity and knowledge to actually achieve something like this would not even consider coming on the forum asking opinions on how they can get this project started. If ANYTHING they would come on here in the middle of their project asking questions about their engine harness etc etc. You obviously dont have the money and knowledge (judging by your grammar) or engineering background to even begin something like this. To answer your question, anything is possible all you need is time and money. Good luck with your ridiculous project

[meteorite_flo]

if he has money, just let him do it, don't bash on him. what if he actually pulled this off? i'd definately would like to see it go crazy in the snow, or mud. and saying some like 240 + AWD ridiculous???? dude, kumakubo drives a fuckin subaru that's RWD, i wonder what i-club has to say about that? the last time i heard....the forum actually like the god damn thing.

[RedSuns]

if he has money, just let him do it, don't bash on him. what if he actually pulled this off? i'd definately would like to see it go crazy in the snow, or mud. and saying some like 240 + AWD ridiculous???? dude, kumakubo drives a fuckin subaru that's RWD, i wonder what i-club has to say about that? the last time i heard....the forum actually like the god damn thing.


All you have to do is remove the front axles noob.

[EchoOfSilence]

:rofl: .

[!Zar!]

if he has money, just let him do it, don't bash on him. what if he actually pulled this off? i'd definately would like to see it go crazy in the snow, or mud. and saying some like 240 + AWD ridiculous???? dude, kumakubo drives a fuckin subaru that's RWD, i wonder what i-club has to say about that? the last time i heard....the forum actually like the god damn thing.
You dumb shit, it's easier taking something away that a car already has, then to add something that the car was never designed for.

If he has some dire need to drive an awd nissan, then he could buy a skyline.

Stfu and think before you speak child.

[alexchanman]

i think it might be cheaper to just buy a r34 than to do this swap. but its all you if you wanna do it.

[sciamop]

Damn, you guys are sooooooo negative. I've put some serious good ol' boy thinkin' into this swap...

Conclusion: it's easy! Here's my blueprint -- it should help the original poster with his project:

http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_1.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_2.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_3.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_4.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_5.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_6.jpg

The beauty of this swap is that it should work on older Honda Civics, Chevy Cavaliers and Ford F-150 pickups too! As far as tools go, you'll need a sawzall and TIG welder (or lots of duct tape). No wiring or fancy mechanical engineering necessary -- just some occasional help/encouragement from the experts on zilvia.net!

[RedSuns]

Damn, you guys are sooooooo negative. I've put some serious good ol' boy thinkin' into this swap...

Conclusion: it's easy! Here's my blueprint -- it should help the original poster with his project:

http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_1.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_2.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_3.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_4.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_5.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_6.jpg

The beauty of this swap is that it should work on older Honda Civics, Chevy Cavaliers and Ford F-150 pickups too! As far as tools go, you'll need a sawzall and TIG welder (or lots of duct tape). No wiring or fancy mechanical engineering necessary -- just some occasional help/encouragement from the experts on zilvia.net!

I hope you are being sarcastic. If not you are an idiot.



my 2 cents.

[!Zar!]

I hope you are being sarcastic. If not you are an idiot.



my 2 cents.
Come on man, lighten up. :w00t:

That was the best post so far in this thread, aside from what Kevin said earlier.

[EchoOfSilence]

:rofl: it looks like the same damned thing hahahhaa. oh man, too much.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Actually its been done in the states. Remember back bout 5-6 yrs ago, there was a guy from Wisconsin or MN who had a S14 w/ AWD RB26DETT swap. Guy goes by the SN of "LilGTR" Cant remember which board tho, i wanna say NICO when NICO was koo. Anyways, the car was one of the cleanest S14 ive ever seen (It was a show car). He was putting down 550 whp on 4 wheels. I loved that car, then it broke my heart. The guy was coming back from a car show, car was being trailered when they hit a patch of black ice. Lost control of the truck and the trailer flipped, completely destroying the car. This was back then when nobody has done RB swaps in the states, people were just starting on the SR bandwagon.

[BoostinGST]

hmmm that is a dumb idea, however r32 suspension works in a s13 correct??? if thats so it should be easy if you can find the parts

if that is true you might have to fab up tie rods and the lower control arm... i'm pretty sure the cars are about the same width so the axles should work fine... basically if you want a drag car go rwd, if you want something to brag about to the local ricers awd is within your reach

[sciamop]

I hope you are being sarcastic. If not you are an idiot.



my 2 cents.

I was hoping that the 'duct tape' and 'F-150' thing would clue the more mindless people in on the joke. I guess it didn't work!

[fromxtor]

What kind of times are you looking for? Theres already two S14s running low 10s on ka-t.org. See: http://www.ka-t.org/rides.htm

[Ghost Dancer]

This has nothing to do with building a fast "drag car". It one of those "I'm cool because I'm going to build an AWD 240" things. So instead of harping I'm going to be supportive...

You can do it man! It's not hard and it won't be expensive at all. It's not a total waste of money. Especially when you take into consideration the fact that you can spend half of what a swap like this would cost and build a RWD RB26 powered 240 with more power and a hell of alot faster.

Oh and sciamop, that was the funniest shite I've seen in a while.

[RedSuns]

I was hoping that the 'duct tape' and 'F-150' thing would clue the more mindless people in on the joke. I guess it didn't work!


I just need a hug....get off me

[SiI40sx]

I just need a hug....get off me

:hug:

Lock this please.

[ghostracing]

Your so ignorant, the only people with the capacity and knowledge to actually achieve something like this would not even consider coming on the forum asking opinions on how they can get this project started. If ANYTHING they would come on here in the middle of their project asking questions about their engine harness etc etc. You obviously dont have the money and knowledge (judging by your grammar) or engineering background to even begin something like this. To answer your question, anything is possible all you need is time and money. Good luck with your ridiculous project
wow well alot of people have done some flaming on this site and its okay---but this ^^^idiot right here is kind of going a little too far -- first of all dipshit the post was to get feed back on the project some people agree alot dont your welcome to ur own opinion thats fine but let see ur talking about my grammer and engineering background--im 20 years old im 100% positive i way more competent than you. Ignorant-no--but some one thats trying to make something better and faster dumbass--- this just shows u that u have no engineering skill what so ever because ever the most novice engineer has a mind thats constantly workin and trying to make something new-better-faster-- and to everyone else on here with the flaming and the jokes thats cool i dont mind it thanks for the input good or bad---

[ThatGuy]

^What in the Hell did you just try and say? Take a step back away from the keyboard for a minute, take a deep breath, and THEN try to type an intelligent thought. Honestly, that large grouping of ramblings doesn't do much to support your argument on intelligence. Just calm down and express yourself more professionally, if you want to be taken seriously. Remember, PUNCTUATION IS YOUR FRIEND!

[turknjd]

welcome to zilvia, where people are soooo nice.

[EchoOfSilence]

Engineering background, huh?

Did you dose off in Technical Writing?

[ckiesz]

I seriously looked into doing an RB26DET AWD in an S14 a few months back. I am an automotive fabricator by trade and wanted to do something a little different. In the end it wasn't the cost that diswaded me, but more the time to fab up a bunch of new stuff. The frame needed modification for the axles to pass through, new frame needed to be made for the R33/R34 front suspension, and mounts for the engine and transmission.
The idea is good if you are wanting a VERY serious project to show off your cutting and welding skills, but even if you were to include only half the time you spend to do it correctly, it would be more ecconomical to puchase an R32 or R33 or Evo or STI or .... An Awd S14 would be sweet though.

[mmdb]

I'd say do it and forget what these people say. Once it's done they'll only be green with envy; and you'll have one fast car.

[Edgar]

If you need a complete R33 subframe let me know I have old one laying around from a clip :)

[koukidough]

lets just say you managed to get the awd working. I still doubt your car will be as fast as alot of modded rwd 240's/silvias out there. Waste of money....just my 2 cents

[BoostinGST]

you dont need an r33 subframe... especially if your doing an s13... i also forgot to mention in my last post that you would need a custom driveshaft... if you have a decent amount of cash i can get you a r32 gtr for under $20k registered and all... it wouldnt be more cost effective than an s13 awd swap but it would be if you consider the time its going to take...

[alkemyst]

Actually its been done in the states. Remember back bout 5-6 yrs ago, there was a guy from Wisconsin or MN who had a S14 w/ AWD RB26DETT swap. Guy goes by the SN of "LilGTR" Cant remember which board tho, i wanna say NICO when NICO was koo. Anyways, the car was one of the cleanest S14 ive ever seen (It was a show car). He was putting down 550 whp on 4 wheels. I loved that car, then it broke my heart. The guy was coming back from a car show, car was being trailered when they hit a patch of black ice. Lost control of the truck and the trailer flipped, completely destroying the car. This was back then when nobody has done RB swaps in the states, people were just starting on the SR bandwagon.

there was a site lilgtr.com...it was a RB26DETT swap, not AWD.

The guy had about $60k into it.

Unless one has about $100k to blow (I don't see how the chassis would be compatible though), I wouldn't even start the project.

A basic R32 could be had for $20k or so.

Being able to 'weld' and designing a chassis though are two different worlds. Sort of like someone saying they can do surgery because they can use a scalpel.

Good luck if you are serious though

[GabeS14]

hope it works, has the same discussion and links to the lilgtr website

http://forums.skylinesdownunder.co.nz/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31137&goto=nextoldest

[fliprayzin240sx]

there was a site lilgtr.com...it was a RB26DETT swap, not AWD.

The guy had about $60k into it.

Unless one has about $100k to blow (I don't see how the chassis would be compatible though), I wouldn't even start the project.

A basic R32 could be had for $20k or so.

Being able to 'weld' and designing a chassis though are two different worlds. Sort of like someone saying they can do surgery because they can use a scalpel.

Good luck if you are serious though

I coulda sworn it was AWD...then again that was over 3 yrs ago. I know Mckinney was trying to make a kit but gave up on the idea almost 2 yrs ago. I think they figured that there wasnt enough interest in it to warrant them fabbing the stuff to make it possible. Also, they gave up on trying to drift with the RB after they figured that have GTR powered S-chassis was not the greatest setup for drifting. Mack said, it simply put down power to the wheels that it was hard to control it and made the car oversteer crazy *spinout* Back to SR20det it is...

[ghostracing]

thanks you all for all the input, with the exception of the two dipshits on the site (that guy & siI40sx) . ive still been doin the research and alot of people are right awd would give it that take off but wouldnt give me the times i want to see, especially if im going to be investing a large amount of money and time. Right now what i want is a drag car so i think i might stick with the rb26dett jus simply the rb25 trans. Oh and to the man with the welding comment (alkemyst) u are absolutly right but, i think that im full capable of welding a chassis lol i doubt i would just randomly attempt to weld a chassis together-that be a big saftey issue... ive done it before on a drag car that runs 9s it was at nopi in md and will be there again in august on top of that i also helped some guy weld together the frame for his chopper so yea i have the experience.

[Angel]

If you'd like to keep this site as a potential source of info and help for the future, I would suggest that you ease up on the name calling ( especially when it comes to admins ) and slink away with your tail between your legs to lick your wounds. Take this as an honest attempt at helping you, I won't go into addressing just how feasable or not your idea was, as that's been covered already. If you don't care or would like to play the "badass" to people that will forget you minutes after your departure... then carry on :)

[ManoNegra]

Everyone I've talked to about this has said it's a waste of money and time but what do they know. I say you do it and prove them all wrong grasshopper.

[GabeS14]

I say do it!!!
keep us posted on how the work comes along!!!!!!!:bigok:

[Johny5]

thanks you all for all the input, with the exception of the two dipshits on the site (that guy & siI40sx) ..


Hrmmm... Theres where you called them dipshits.


Right now what i want is a drag car so i think i might stick with the rb26dett jus simply the rb25 trans.


And heres where you realized you were an Idiot and listened to them.



HRMMMMMMMMMMM.


-McRussellpants.

[fliprayzin240sx]

I seriously dont see the point of having AWD for a drag car. All thats gonna happen is more shiet for your car to potentially break with the more torque/power you have. I've personally seen a S13 with a RB26 RWD stock boost with OPEN DIFF run 11s. So with more boost and more traction, imagine the possibilities...

[hybrid_eg]

if money is not an object at "all" and this what you really want.. then do it.. if not, then do not even think about it.. even if i had the money for something like this i'd still never do it, if you want my opinion..

[240meowth]

Damn, you guys are sooooooo negative. I've put some serious good ol' boy thinkin' into this swap...

Conclusion: it's easy! Here's my blueprint -- it should help the original poster with his project:

http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_1.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_2.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_3.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_4.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_5.jpg
http://www.whistlehog.com/data/skyvia_6.jpg

The beauty of this swap is that it should work on older Honda Civics, Chevy Cavaliers and Ford F-150 pickups too! As far as tools go, you'll need a sawzall and TIG welder (or lots of duct tape). No wiring or fancy mechanical engineering necessary -- just some occasional help/encouragement from the experts on zilvia.net!


Oh, man, this is the best, i think i'll put it on my desktop. Such good laugh! :bowrofl:

[Sil Beer S13]

wow, that was a great read.

Dont piss off admins, there just trying to help and a bully sort of way. Thats why most of us call zilvia home.

AWD 240 = FAIL.

[ghostracing]

LOL AWD IS ALIVE--- and comin along drawing out based on a post give to me i think on this forum of a guy who previously did it

[TheWolf]

Wow no one in this thread even mentioned it... Just because it's Skyline AWD doesn't instantly make it somehow invincible to the problems of AWD such as breaking of transmissions and diffs. If the goal is a fast drag car and by fast I'll assume in the 10's. Then you better hope your skyline drivetrain is up for it. Just because the RB26 can make crazy power. Doesn't mean it can put it down every time. Maybe you've got the hook up for skyline trannys, transfer cases and front diffs located in and next to the oil pan. That'll be fun to change out. If you have to ask how to do it then you probably lack the knowledge to complete the conversion.

[Id-]

LOL AWD IS ALIVE--- and comin along drawing out based on a post give to me i think on this forum of a guy who previously did it

Good for him. My friend's GT2871R SR20 S13 cut 1.5 60's at the track on drag radials, stock motor. Good luck doing that with an AWD S13 :)

For all the money invested, you could have a killer suspension setup and a rear-end setup that would handle the power and launch harder than an AWD could.

AWD is overrated unless you're towing something, driving in the rain, or driving offroad.

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[harlockssx]

Ummm...isn't Full-Race doing this as we speak? AWD 240SX/GT-R hybrid. http://wakesports.com/full-race/index.php?showtopic=1054&hl=

[Slidin240Wayz]

ooo, the secret is out. Now more pressure on them. It will be very interesting to see.

Carlos

[Stillslow]

If your going to go through all that trouble wht not tube the whole car tub the rear put a solid rear axle (ford 9" or something along those lines)buy the adapter plate and put a chevy 350 tranny on it.Now I know someguys are going to flame me for this using domestic parts but think about it this way you wont break axles and if you blow your tranny you can find a new one almost anywhere.I mean a RB25 stock replacement tranny is going to cost around $800 and a fully built chev tranny will cost you around a $1000.

This isnt something I would ever build if I was going to drive it on the street but stirctly drag it would be bullet proof.

[Greymedic88]

And of course there's the whole point of what the GT-R / ATTESA-ETS was originally engineered for; not drag racing.
FR remains the best layout for 0-400.
AWD is easier to launch, but as was already mentioned; also more parts to break. So how deep are your pockets once this very custom fab job is complete?
Probably the easiest way to do an AWD S-chassis (as already done) is to take the entire floor pan/driveline off a BNR32 and then weld/bolt the S-chassis on.
Or skip that lengthy step and just buy a US DOT legalized BNR32 and start performance mods immediately
But... I understand; some people just 'gotta be different, be clever and do things the hard way even at the expense of efficiency.

[ranger240]

I saw a Fastback on "EGay" a long time ago that supposedly had the AWD swap started. The front end of the car was about 3 feet off the ground to make room for the front drive shafts and such. I'm fairly certain, in this day and age, if it hasn't been done already, it's probably not worth it. Unless we are talking new technology, but we're not. The RB26 has been swapped into MANY s-chassis. There is a reason they went with RWD trannies.

i saw a coupe on ebay like that... and the front end was definately high up and looked messed up

[SimpleS14]

Ummm...isn't Full-Race doing this as we speak? AWD 240SX/GT-R hybrid. http://wakesports.com/full-race/index.php?showtopic=1054&hl=

Interesting...I wonder what their reason for doing this is....as well as their progress so far.

[5upra]

go for it dude, but you could always just give me the money that your going to spend, just to end up giving up on it:coolugh: If your interested in a AWD drag project make a GTR powered 3000gt VR4 or any AWD car:loco:

Anyways just my 2 bucks:hsdance:

[sepulchral]

hey everyone i dont kno why but im starting a godzilla project yea the one everyone talks about doin but only few have except with this project i want to make the 240sx AWD thats right i wanna keep the rb26 trans and modify the car to fit has anyone ever heard of this bein done--- and before anyone starts sayin that the idea is stupid or that its gonnna be outrageously expensive i kinda already kno that lol im tryin to create a drag car i already have a 180sx for the drifting now i need somethin for drag--i pretty much want the launch that they skyline has when it takes off. if anyone has annyyyy info please let me kno ---also ill take opinions good or bad.


i already envy you, you're so daring :ghey:

[ghostracing]

I wanna bring this post back.... Sit back and LAUGH at every member that crowned this idea and made jokes ...smh...lol guess it wasn't such a dumb idea ... Guess a lot of people have done it... Guess a lot of the people on here probably think..... "wow was I stupid" it's ok relax I forgive you lol

[ghostracing]

All those that agreed on the idea we were well before our time.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Really? You bumped your 6 yr old thread to spout this I'm holier than thou bullshit??? Who gives a fuck?!?! Make your S-chassis AWD for what? A fucking Evo will still out handle it for half the fucking cost!!!

[shalezzz]

I wanna bring this post back.... Sit back and LAUGH at every member that crowned this idea and made jokes ...smh...lol guess it wasn't such a dumb idea ... Guess a lot of people have done it... Guess a lot of the people on here probably think..... "wow was I stupid" it's ok relax I forgive you lol

go buy a juke..... im also in for pics of your awd 240 :down:

[1jz s14 zenki]

Awd will be bad ass for a track with turns not straight

[enkei2k]

Necro bump = :lockd:

[S14DB]

I wanna bring this post back.... Sit back and LAUGH at every member that crowned this idea and made jokes ...smh...lol guess it wasn't such a dumb idea ... Guess a lot of people have done it... Guess a lot of the people on here probably think..... "wow was I stupid" it's ok relax I forgive you lol
What was a dumb idea was bumping a 6yr old thread for a "I told you so"

:lockd: