Gas Station poll

[98ka24det]

What gas station do u guys go to.. and why do u go there..??

If anyone knows how to make a poll.. please help me out here. And if u can show me or do it for me, just put down all the major gas stations and then put Brand X which is mom-pop station..

One more question... do u guys think all fuel from all gas stations are the same quality..?? If not which do u think has the best quality...

Thanks

[Silverbullet]

i can't tell the difference between one brand of gas to another. Im sure most consumers can't either.

[Destructo]

Talk to your gas man, you would be supprised on what you can learn, about the gas they put at the pumps, and shifty things that can occur.

[wootwoot]

I go to whichever is the cheapest

[downshift_sideways]

Yea nowadays. I go to "Royal Gas Station" or "Arco".

To me they are the cheapest.

87 = 3.09
89 = 3.15
91 = 3.26

You cant tell the major diffrence between gases. They are all about the same.

Unless your using Chevron with Techron.

[98ka24det]

Unless your using Chevron with Techron.

What is so special about that Techron stuff..?? Ive done this thread on like 3 other forums and chevron seems to be the leading gas station that people say has the best quality fuel... And mobil is the 2nd.

Heck i thought BP (amoco fuels) was the best.. Cause of their "crystal clear" ultimate 93

I guess its not so special..

[reefer1114]

chevron with techron is the best gas to use for your daily driver. it actually cleans your engine. arco is one of the shittiest and will fuck up your car faster in the long run. it might be costly but its worth it. shell is pretty close to chevron though.

[SpeedMonkeyInc]

chevron with techron is the best gas to use for your daily driver. it actually cleans your engine. arco is one of the shittiest and will fuck up your car faster in the long run. it might be costly but its worth it. shell is pretty close to chevron though.

How is it going to dammage anything? Can you back up that statement with any documented facts?

The truth about fuel is every company gets their gasoline from just few refineries. The only thing that changes after the gasoline leaves the refinery is the additive package mixed in by the brand.

[ranisron]

89 octane Marathon Gas is what I use for my 240SX and Altima. If the gas price drops a bit more, I will use 93 octane Marathon OR Kroger (grocery) gas station. other gas station I use: BP. NO SHELL, NO Speedway/gulf, Sorry we don't have Chevron here in southern Indiana.

I remember when I was in Pittsburgh, they have those Giant Eagle Gas Perk savings... GAS WAS CHEAP as long as I buy a lot of groceries....

What are some of the alternatives in CA?

[FRpilot]

we were discussing this a while ago.. one of my friends said most of the gas at vallero, arco, BP, etc are older gas that hasnt sold and has been stored for a while is sold at those value gas stations. these older gas dont burn as well as the stuff you get from chevron, shell, or 76. i think you get a little better gas mileage from switching to chevron from arco.

[irritatedmax]

i use bp's premium - either 92 or 93 octance. i haven't had any troubles and the car seems to like it. its the hightest octane around here with everyone else's premium only at 91.

unless someone has any test results or fact tables from independent studies, this thread is just hearsay and opinion.

[Ricks15]

Shell 87 @ 3.20 a gallon can't beat that every where else is 3.50 or higher of regular.

[ispypsi]

i usually buy from sunoco or racetrac, those are the lowest here in florida. usually get 93, or 100 if im feeling frisky, most of the sunocos around me carry it.

i dont listen to the hype about additives and that other bullshit. 93 is 93. and ive never read any real proof about anything that can be pinpointed and attributed to running "off brand gas". hell walmart/sams club gas is always the cheapest, never had a problem with it.

the only two theories i recognize about gas are:

#1. buy gas earlier in the morning or at night, the heat of the day can expand the gas, so technicall you'd get a little more gas for your money. granted, i dont practice this because its probably so minute that you wont ever notice.

#2. dont buy gas from stations that don't have alot of consumer traffic. if you see a gas station (usually out in BFE) that doenst get alot of gas, and gets even less gas refill shipments from tanker trucks, chances are the gas in there has sat, and has the possibility of some condensation forming. this is also probably so minute that it wont have any ill effects, but its possible.


note that neither of those affect how or where i buy gas.

[ph34r]

i have noticed more hesitation when i use gas other than BP or Shell. They cost only a few cents more than other stations around here for premium, so my .25 extra cents total is worth it.

[phreze]

In my dd(mazda protege5) I use whatever is cheapest which is often time mobile/bp/shell but if its a 5-10 diff then I use citgo or clark. With the 240 I only use shell v-power 93octane or if realy low on gas anyname brand premium.

[S14DB]

Sams Club Gas

[DJPimpFlex]

I use whats cheep in my van, and chevron in my race car and bike. I have taken a tour of the Chevron engine lab in richmond and I was very impressed. My xgf's step dad and dad both work at chevron, and her step dad is one of the top people on Orini (the company that invented Techron).

They have SO many different tests for there fuel its crazy, and they dont just test there own gas, they test ALL gas to see where they stack up.

The industry standard is a for testing is a Ford 2.3L motor. Every gas has to pass a tear down inspection on a ford 2.3. They all are set up identically and rebuilt every time. The tests are run consitantly via computer over a week and they simulate a lifetime of eninge running. High RPM's acceleration and deceleration and crusing. Every company does EXACTALLY the same test so see how they compare. They do test on a lot of different engines also, 1cly diesels, V12's ect.

This is what I learned. All gas legally has to have some ammount of cleanser in it. All gas will explode obviously, and power gains from different companys and minimal (and wernt measured in there tests). What they do test is the carbon build up on the intake valves. Most Higher end gas (BP, Shell, Chevron ect.) have no problem with keeping the intake valves clean. The "holy grail" of fuel additives is the combustion chamber. Most of these cleansers dont burn very well and end up leaving deposits there. Techon does pretty well at minimizing this.

I got to look at a lot of intake valves from other companys and DAMN they get dirty, like crazy. You wouldnt believe the shit that can get on your intake valves. Most mom and pop shops have the minimum ammount of additives in there gas and hence the worst performance when it comes to valve cleaning.

This is almost irrelevent to us because we all drive our cars hard. The people that will have these problems the most are the normal people that drive under 3k all day. Driving hard tends to help keep the valves cleaner and makes almost all of this irrelevent for us, not totally, but not as much compared to your moms driving.

Chevron puts the same ammount of cleanser in all there grades of gas. Shell puts a shit load in the permium and less in there lower end gasses. Arco actually isnt that bad, but its not as good as chevron.

Chevron was the first to patent cleanser technology back in (I want to say, but I'm not 100%) the 60's, but there patent has recently run out and now every company (within the last 10 years) doesnt have to buy it from chevron any more, they make there own.

FUN FACT! North korea has the cleanest buring gas in the world. Back in the 80's, chevron sold them a bill of goods and they now buy more cleansers than any other country in the world.

OK I'm done.

[TipStylez]

chevron with techron is the best gas to use for your daily driver. it actually cleans your engine. arco is one of the shittiest and will fuck up your car faster in the long run. it might be costly but its worth it. shell is pretty close to chevron though.

amen to that.

[SpeedMonkeyInc]

amen to that.

Amen what? Why?

[DJPimpFlex]

amen to that.

did you even read what I wrote?

[Revolver Ocelot]

I use either 76 or Chevron. If i use 91 from a no-name place it will set off a Check engine code. Dam tempermental evo.

[DJPimpFlex]

^how is the EVO? I hear it gets boring...

[240speed]

Ingles grocery store on tues. 10 cents off of prem. I pay and avg. of 2.66 gal

[koukidough]

I use costco gas. Works great! Bad thing is you got to wait in line...

[Id RaThEr DrIfT]

i though 76 was the best???? and were can i get 93 in socal 909 for under4 dollars?

[DJPimpFlex]

^why are you using 93? Unless you need it dont use it, its a waste of money. If my bike could run on 87 I sure as hell would do it.

[axiomatik]

I use to run Arco all the time back in Phoenix, since it was pretty much always the cheapest. I stopped though when I got a bad tank of gas. Out here in Iowa I always get QT or Hy-Vee (grocery store) 91 octane (cheapest again). The grocery store gives a discount if you buy something there (no limit on how small of a purchase), usually 3 cents/gal, but usually once a week or so its 9 cents/gal, and has been as high as 18 cents/gal. Right now, QT has 89 octane for $2.64/gal, 91 octane for ~$2.84/gal. Iowa rocks! :rawk: um, sort of.

[ReDs13SiLvIa]

Sunco Is The Only One That Carries 94 In My Area:(
It Also Carries 93 @ $3.09:)

[Id RaThEr DrIfT]

^why are you using 93? Unless you need it dont use it, its a waste of money. If my bike could run on 87 I sure as hell would do it.
i dont i was just asking .... cause if i could find it cheap then ill just go with it.... but 90% of the time i go with 76 gas station and put 91 it requiers it since its a red top so yeah .... i pay i belive $3.57 something like that

[i20ar]

i go to 76 in rancho(909) 87 cost me 3.25$ tho i found this gas station thats no name and 87 cost 3.20$ the guys that own it are middle eastern .. i dunno which kind.. but damn theyre gass is really cheap.. u know wats sad tho.. in iraq/iran.. they're paying a few cents per gallon.. ='(

[Revolver Ocelot]

^how is the EVO? I hear it gets boring...
Its fun and nicely set up even in stock form. To be honest the people that get bored with it are proably the people that never track it or just street race it. Because to be honest i am not even good enough yet to use its full potential.

[DJPimpFlex]

I just hear that they are very dull, no real characteristics. Just point and shoot. I dunno I guess I gotta drive one.s

[Id RaThEr DrIfT]

i go to 76 in rancho(909) 87 cost me 3.25$ tho i found this gas station thats no name and 87 cost 3.20$ the guys that own it are middle eastern .. i dunno which kind.. but damn theyre gass is really cheap.. u know wats sad tho.. in iraq/iran.. they're paying a few cents per gallon.. ='(
yeah tahts the same one i go to but i put 91 its always the cheapest one and its good gas:rawk:

[FaLKoN240]

I always use Chevron, the only way you'll get me to use shitty Arco is if I need to get like 5 miles to the next Chevron station.

My dad's Honda technician at Honda Hospital said that the shitty Arco gas he used to put into his Acura Legend caused his EGR valve to get stuck.

www.Gasbuddy.com, use that shit, spread it around, update the gas prices. I check almost everyday that I know I'm going to drive my car, or sometimes just to keep track on the way the gas prices are going. As of late they're going down. It'll spike again sooner or later.

[WERDdabuilder]

shell/chev/76

and if im at work and in a hurry ill go to arco.

rancho here

[mr_240sx]

well my parents own 2 gas stations and trust me..... there is a huge difference between no name gas and brand name gas and its more then just price.....

the brand names put addetives in their gas so it burn cleaner and you also get better gas mileage with the better gas....

well this just happened to me friday night after coming back from a track day... the track was in the middle of nowhere and the only gas station in the area was some no name crap.... well i put 91 octane but after 45 miles... everytime id shift my car wouldnt stop backfireing :( so when i got to a bigger town where there was a brand name gas station i topped up with their gas and now the car doesnt backfire anymore..... it was the first time in 3 years that my car was backfireing because i always put the best of the best in it .

[downshift_sideways]

I use whats cheep in my van, and chevron in my race car and bike. I have taken a tour of the Chevron engine lab in richmond and I was very impressed. My xgf's step dad and dad both work at chevron, and her step dad is one of the top people on Orini (the company that invented Techron).

They have SO many different tests for there fuel its crazy, and they dont just test there own gas, they test ALL gas to see where they stack up.

The industry standard is a for testing is a Ford 2.3L motor. Every gas has to pass a tear down inspection on a ford 2.3. They all are set up identically and rebuilt every time. The tests are run consitantly via computer over a week and they simulate a lifetime of eninge running. High RPM's acceleration and deceleration and crusing. Every company does EXACTALLY the same test so see how they compare. They do test on a lot of different engines also, 1cly diesels, V12's ect.

This is what I learned. All gas legally has to have some ammount of cleanser in it. All gas will explode obviously, and power gains from different companys and minimal (and wernt measured in there tests). What they do test is the carbon build up on the intake valves. Most Higher end gas (BP, Shell, Chevron ect.) have no problem with keeping the intake valves clean. The "holy grail" of fuel additives is the combustion chamber. Most of these cleansers dont burn very well and end up leaving deposits there. Techon does pretty well at minimizing this.

I got to look at a lot of intake valves from other companys and DAMN they get dirty, like crazy. You wouldnt believe the shit that can get on your intake valves. Most mom and pop shops have the minimum ammount of additives in there gas and hence the worst performance when it comes to valve cleaning.

This is almost irrelevent to us because we all drive our cars hard. The people that will have these problems the most are the normal people that drive under 3k all day. Driving hard tends to help keep the valves cleaner and makes almost all of this irrelevent for us, not totally, but not as much compared to your moms driving.

Chevron puts the same ammount of cleanser in all there grades of gas. Shell puts a shit load in the permium and less in there lower end gasses. Arco actually isnt that bad, but its not as good as chevron.

Chevron was the first to patent cleanser technology back in (I want to say, but I'm not 100%) the 60's, but there patent has recently run out and now every company (within the last 10 years) doesnt have to buy it from chevron any more, they make there own.

FUN FACT! North korea has the cleanest buring gas in the world. Back in the 80's, chevron sold them a bill of goods and they now buy more cleansers than any other country in the world.

OK I'm done.

niiicee... I just woke up, but i learned something. :)

[Dutchmalmiss]

hmm, i'm stuck with shell. but that's cuz i have a gas card for them. i've had no problems with shell gas though. 91 on my redtop seems perfectly fine. then i'll either use shell or whatever's closest to me in my dd(celica st) cuz 10 bucks will get me about 100 miles. :rawk:

[Apossiblehybrid]

i usually use chevron and sometimes shell.

[91CRXsiR]

shell cuz i have a shell card and its good gas plus i get 5% off w/ a 30 day term can't beat that

[miucus]

i use costco gas

[mr_240sx]

i use costco gas
thats crazy cause i never knew costco had gas!

[ALTRNTV]

Chevron, Shell and 76 are the only ones I go to.

[n2motorsports]

my buddy is a chemical engineer, he uses shell b/c it's got the highest content of detergent or so he says. anyways it's shell or chevron for me

[aznpoopy]

i use exxon and mobil, because i have an exxon mobil card which gets a small discount.

i also use shell now and then. i've heard the same thing about shell gas and detergents but i don't know if its true.

i stay away from all other brands. i filled up at a 'valero' and i blew two fuel injector seals the next day. coincidence? who knows.

[phreze]

Yeah I am getting a shell car becuase 5% of $3.109 = $0.155 back a gallon. $2.944 for 93 octane v-power is cheaper then most places reg unleaded.

[santacruisin]

I buy 76 or Chevron cuz I think they are both owned by Conoco Philips and are essentially the same. My brother in law put shell in his truck and it started pinging. Put chevron put in the truck and pinging stopped. I wouldn't buy shell anyways tho, bad politics, even for an oil company.

[DoriftoSlut]

There's a 76 in Pasadena has 100, but its crazy like $6.50+ almost $7 now.

So I just my gas up at Willow Springs. $5.50 for VP 100 or VP 110. 110 is leaded.


If I have to drive around on 91 (CRAP) to get to the track I use Mobil or 76.

[ALTRNTV]

There's a 76 in Pasadena has 100, but its crazy like $6.50+ almost $7 now.

Which one in Pasadena?

[Zero_SX]

the cheapest chevron i always go to is in walnut in between lemon and grand on valley. its always around 5c cheaper than the others. OC has cheapest gas i'v seen, especially that 76(?) by the brea mall.

[DoriftoSlut]

Which one in Pasadena?

Arroyo Parkway 76

155 E Glenarm St
Pasadena, CA 91105-3435
(626) 441-3392

[ManoNegra]

I took a couple of auto courses at Pierce CC here in the Valley a little while back. The instructor (muscle/drag guy but very knowledgeable) swore that gas is gas is gas and that it didn't matter where/brand you got in your car. He did mentioned that going to old mom and pops stations could get you bad gas. Not to do with the supplier of the gas but the pumps used. Old pumps tend to get dirty with water and junk staying at the bottom of tank. If you were to get gas when the tank was getting empty you could get this junk into you car thus causing problems.
The key was to get gas wherever it is cheaper and the station is fairly new. But I swear my car runs better when I use Chevron so who knows.
What octane are SR's designed for anyhow? I'm lazy don't feel like digging around.

[DJPimpFlex]

91+. Turbo cars NEED high octane like a muthafucka.

[satal95]

i put chevron in my car. right now gas prices have been going down so i put it for 2.79 for the good stuff

[DoriftoSlut]

I took a couple of auto courses at Pierce CC here in the Valley a little while back. The instructor (muscle/drag guy but very knowledgeable) swore that gas is gas is gas and that it didn't matter where/brand you got in your car. He did mentioned that going to old mom and pops stations could get you bad gas. Not to do with the supplier of the gas but the pumps used. Old pumps tend to get dirty with water and junk staying at the bottom of tank. If you were to get gas when the tank was getting empty you could get this junk into you car thus causing problems.
The key was to get gas wherever it is cheaper and the station is fairly new. But I swear my car runs better when I use Chevron so who knows.
What octane are SR's designed for anyhow? I'm lazy don't feel like digging around.

Technically, SRs are intended to run on 100 octane in japan. BUT, that is slightly different than a US rating. Jland uses just a MON (or is it RON) rating, which yeilds higher octane "numbers". US and A uses AKI which is basically MON+RON ratings, but then divided by 2 to get an average, so the number ends up being a bit less. IIRC, Japan 100 octane is roughly US and A 96-ish.


Whatever, pickles and beans. EU and JP get 100 octane and we get fuckstick bullcrap gas.


SR+t3/t04e at over 1bar boost= more prone to knocking. Knock is when the unburnt fuel ignites under compression from the piston, thus exploding and trying to force the piston down while its on the up-stroke.

Bad shit.


The more boost you run or the higher your compression ratio, the more prone you are to knock because more pressure means the gas is more apt to ignite.

Gas with a higher octane reading is less prone to ignite under compression, so running a higher octane number saves your ASS with a highly tuned/boosted motor. Higher octane gas burns more completely which leaves less gas vapor to be left after combustion and thusly not as likely to ignite from compression.


So. Gas is gas is not gas. Can you really tell between a 91 and an 89? Uh. That's up in the air. But there is a huge difference from 91 to 100 to 110.

[street_white180sx]

Shell and Esso which yawl guys probably know as Exxon at now 4.22 a gallon gotta love living in the Bahamas high ass gas prices :rant2: The funny thing is it actually dropped the past few days it was up to 4.58

[S14DB]

Shell and Esso which yawl guys probably know as Exxon at now 4.22 a gallon gotta love living in the Bahamas high ass gas prices :rant2: The funny thing is it actually dropped the past few days it was up to 4.58
Not like you have to drive very far. :p

[94cc0rd]

I always use 76 or Mobil 89 octane... I used 87 when I first got my car but it set off the CEL. Previous owner said he always used 91, so I started putting in 91, but after prices kept rising, i stepped down to 89. Seems to be ok.. no more CEL. I can't really tell a difference between different gas brands, but some friends say they get better mileage with Shell gas. :-/

Hmm... I've since removed the Cold air intake from my car and replaced it with the stock air box... Should I try using 87 again?

[cosil8e]

....So. Gas is gas is not gas. Can you really tell between a 91 and an 89? Uh. That's up in the air. But there is a huge difference from 91 to 100 to 110.

i tried to explain that to a friend a couple years back and he would have none of it. "it's a scam, all gas is the same" he'd say. he and his wife are super liberals and anything to do with oil companies is bs to them.

as far as stations around here....i was using bp regularly until they changed to sinclair. now i mix between shell, sinclair and what used to be the corner texaco. i'm there often but i honestly can't remember what it is now though.

oh and because i'm in the mountains we have 85, 87, and 91 octane. and of course i use 91.

[AllenRPS13]

i usually go to 76...

[sncs14]

MObile one or BP stations usually.
No Hess or Gogas stations though, I'll post pics later of what I drained out of my filter after a few thousand miles of using their gas. I always use 93 octane. Stations here are generally 87, 89, and 93, though, some do have 91 and 92 octane. After tearing down as many engines as I have and seeing those that have used 87 octane and then seeing mine. As long as I can afford the extra 20 cents or what ever it is a gallon I'll run 93 regardless of whether or not my car is NA.

[Ghettokracker71]

I became really partial to shell in my s13,and my integra isn't really picky so I just run whatever.

The only two I 'mark and avoid' are racetrak(wich I think are dead now?) and citgo. I've have never heard anything but terrible things about both of them from lots of people,basically my whole life...

[DoriftoSlut]

i tried to explain that to a friend a couple years back and he would have none of it. "it's a scam, all gas is the same" he'd say. he and his wife are super liberals and anything to do with oil companies is bs to them.

as far as stations around here....i was using bp regularly until they changed to sinclair. now i mix between shell, sinclair and what used to be the corner texaco. i'm there often but i honestly can't remember what it is now though.

oh and because i'm in the mountains we have 85, 87, and 91 octane. and of course i use 91.
Yeah, If people don't believe than hook up a SAFCII or PFC and check the knock reading with 91 vs. 100 vs. 110 vs. C16.

[CrispMofo]

what do y'all know 'bout Shell?

i only stop at exxon or mobile 'coz it burns seems to burn slower than the Sonoco gas that i used to compare.

[S14DB]

what do y'all know 'bout Shell?

i only stop at exxon or mobile 'coz it burns seems to burn slower than the Sonoco gas that i used to compare.
So, it has a higher octane?

[CrispMofo]

So, it has a higher octane?

when i pump the same octane at any of the stations, exxon or mobile still burns the way i like it.

[DoriftoSlut]

when i pump the same octane at any of the stations, exxon or mobile still burns the way i like it.
I don't get it. What do you mean? Burns the way you like it? I seriously don't understand.

[CrispMofo]

I don't get it. What do you mean? Burns the way you like it? I seriously don't understand.

if i drive on Sonoco during my daily commute to work and regular errands, the gas goes out quicker like my car is thirsty or somethin'.
when i pump exxon or mobile with the same octane rating, i don't run out as fast.
i payed attention to weird stuff like this. i'm the same guy that runs a stop watch during my daily commute to see which routes are faster just for shts.

[Yuri]

Pretty much only Chevron premium for me. (although it should be a crime to call 91 octane premium)
My Evo's owners manual says to use 91 octane "only for emergancy use" lol

I noticed a big loss of performance when I moved from the midwest to SoCal and had to feed my SR 91 instead of the 94 it was used to.:ghey:

[sncs14]

Previously mentioned Hess/Gogas. This is what I poured out of a filter after a few thousand miles of primarily using Hess Premium and some Gogas 91.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/s14o/3ef3ab99.jpg

[FaLKoN240]

Ew, that gas looks like shit.

http://www.toptiergas.com/ Why I use Chevron.

[aznpoopy]

holy crap.

my mom ran hess gas back in the 80s. supposedly, it ruined her car in about 5 years.

[axiomatik]

TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:

QuikTrip
Chevron
Conoco
Phillips
76
Shell
Entec Stations
MFA Oil Company
Kwik Trip/Kwik Star
The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
Chevron-Canada
Aloha Petroleum
Tri-Par Oil Company
Shell-Canada



I don't see why you would use Chevron exclusively, based upon that list. Nice to see Quick Trip is on the list (and also, apparently, owns the site).

[Gnnr]

But isn't it true that Gas stations sell thier gas to competing stations aswell? Like I could easily be pumping Chevron gas at a Shell station. If X station is running low on gas, and they dont have a truck running a route close enough but competing station Y does, and it would be cheaper to just buy it from them they do?

Is there any truth to this, I dont want to start myths. But for some reason I remember once seeing a site that had the millions of barrels sold to X gas station from Z station (info made public for thier investors I guess) on some site.

[HyperTek]

chevron, mobile, or 76 with only 91 for me depending which is closer.

[lucky7]

i used to always fill up my civic with speedway gas. i read this thread and tried BP. on my 2nd tank now. im getting better mileage already. its amazing. thanks to this thread for that. +1 for the starter. never even thought about the quality of gas. good thread.