View Full Version : R32 GTR wheels, are they casted or forged?
240meowth
05-22-2006, 03:17 AM
So, i'm deeply in love with the r32 gtr wheels w/ the 16x8 +30 offset. Will these fit on the s13 w/ a 5-lug conv w/o any spacers? and are they casted or forged? Thanks man!
dct223
05-22-2006, 03:51 AM
magnesium forged.
if you have coilovers, you will need a 3mm spacer in the front to clear the spring using normal size tires (225/50/16)
mrmephistopheles
05-22-2006, 04:33 AM
We produced with spartan air!
dct223
05-22-2006, 09:23 AM
HELL YEAH!!! hahahahaha
240meowth
05-22-2006, 09:57 AM
is it possible to run a smaller tire size to avoid the spacer? I hate spacers... but I have coilovers =/
and yes, the "we produce with spartin air" is the most baller part of it all
TurDz
05-22-2006, 01:06 PM
Wow, I didn't know they were mag forged....
I really want them now.
dct223
05-22-2006, 02:15 PM
is it possible to run a smaller tire size to avoid the spacer? I hate spacers... but I have coilovers =/
and yes, the "we produce with spartin air" is the most baller part of it all
umm i run 225/50/16 and they just barely rubbed my front tein HE spring... When I got my set, 2 had smaller tires on them (205/45/16 IIRC could have been 205/40) and i think they cleared without a spacer, but not sure since I just used the tires they came with as rear track wheels.
i dunnoo.. IMO 3mm spacer is small enough to not do any harm, i was hesitant to use spacers but they worked out fine.
I think r32 GTR's are one of the best factory 16" wheels you can get! If i was more baller... i wuld get R33 GTR's, now those are a nice set of factory wheels!!
k0uki
05-22-2006, 05:20 PM
agreed with davis, r33 are freaken nice, thats why im glad they appeared on my door steps today
240meowth
05-22-2006, 06:34 PM
r33's reminds me of the oem wrx wheels =/
OptionZero
05-22-2006, 07:48 PM
they aren't THAT light i heard...but for the money they're pretty good for factory wheel...
too bad most places ask $800+ for a set, frickin ripoff
dct223
05-22-2006, 08:03 PM
yeah agreed they arent THAT light, but they definately are NOT heavy.
damnnnn 800 buxxxx i got mine for 6 bills with some tires!
THANKS KID ZELDA! =D
(even though your baned =( )
OptionZero
05-22-2006, 08:28 PM
they aren't heavy, but they aren't as light as say, TE37, SSR Type C or advan RG...
they're right in the middle i guess?
SE wheels-->GTR-->high end forged stuff
that180guy
05-22-2006, 08:36 PM
but they are mag forged. meaning stronger then standard forged wheels
OptionZero
05-22-2006, 08:50 PM
true, true
if i could find a set in good shape for 600 w/ tires i'd rock 'em
...with a spacer, sadly
but they are mag forged. meaning stronger then standard forged wheels
magnesium isn't that strong, but its hella light. Mag wheels are never as strong as straight forged wheels, but it more than makes up for it in weight.
(i think, I'm almost positive i'm right, though)
axiomatik
05-23-2006, 09:41 AM
yes, magnesium is not as strong as aluminum, it is used because it is substantially lighter than aluminum.
Agent_S13
05-23-2006, 10:30 AM
yeah agreed they arent THAT light, but they definately are NOT heavy.
damnnnn 800 buxxxx i got mine for 6 bills with some tires!
THANKS KID ZELDA! =D
(even though your baned =( )
DAMN YOU! You're the one who picked them up from KidZelda a few months back? They were at a good price but I was a few hours too late --- so I'm running GTS-T's for half-price and therefore 1/2 as good. :D
I've been asking around for a set of R32 GT-R's and I've even got quotes of $1k + shipping from SoCal to NorCal... :ghey:
-Aaron
'91 240sx coupe
that180guy
05-23-2006, 02:59 PM
i always thought mags were stronger cuz wrc guys use em? i guess its just for super weight savings.
FRpilot
05-23-2006, 04:34 PM
from what ive read.. manesium is a strong material.. so you could use less magnesium to make a wheel that is equally strong to other forged wheels using different metals. thus, magnesium wheels are very light but still as strong as other forged wheels. rep!
that180guy
05-23-2006, 09:56 PM
the forging process mite be differnt. it has to like make it super stronger because raw magniseum is a pretty soft metal.
TurDz
05-23-2006, 10:12 PM
Yup, forging process, just like casting process, varies greatly, which affects the strength properties on the wheel.
OptionZero
05-23-2006, 10:48 PM
you better edit the other one too
axiomatik
05-24-2006, 07:25 AM
Magnesium is not as strong as aluminum, however, it is about 33% lighter by volume. That gives it a better strength-to-weight ratio than aluminum. If you make two parts equally strong, one from aluminum, and one from magnesium, the magnesium part will have to be larger to offset the lower strength of the material.
As for manufacturing process. In casting, the metal is melted into a liquid, and then poured into a mold. This makes nice consistent parts, and is a relatively inexpensive process. With forging, the metal is not melted. Solid blanks are placed in a mold, and a huge press forces the metal into the desired shape. This process produces much stronger parts than casting because the grain structure of the metal becomes all aligned. Because you have to buy a huge press, and the forms must be much stronger, this is a much more expensive process than casting.
Lordrandall
05-24-2006, 12:18 PM
My R32 GTR's will be moving to the S14 soon. :)
http://werd.com/lordrandall/Cars/240sx/RG/S14_RG_delivery07.jpg
dct223
05-24-2006, 05:56 PM
My R32 GTR's will be moving to the S14 soon. :)
heres a good preview...
http://dygertsucks.home.comcast.net/vinyl1024.jpg
IGSDann
05-24-2006, 10:04 PM
*gasp*
That shit is hot.
OptionZero
05-24-2006, 10:15 PM
looks pretty good, more pics
dct223
05-24-2006, 10:45 PM
looks pretty good, more pics
here you go..
http://dygertsucks.home.comcast.net/516/gas.jpg
that180guy
05-25-2006, 12:02 AM
bahhahaha
YV 76!!!! been awhile since ive been there :(
TurDz
05-25-2006, 12:54 AM
Magnesium is not as strong as aluminum, however, it is about 33% lighter by volume. That gives it a better strength-to-weight ratio than aluminum. If you make two parts equally strong, one from aluminum, and one from magnesium, the magnesium part will have to be larger to offset the lower strength of the material.
As for manufacturing process. In casting, the metal is melted into a liquid, and then poured into a mold. This makes nice consistent parts, and is a relatively inexpensive process. With forging, the metal is not melted. Solid blanks are placed in a mold, and a huge press forces the metal into the desired shape. This process produces much stronger parts than casting because the grain structure of the metal becomes all aligned. Because you have to buy a huge press, and the forms must be much stronger, this is a much more expensive process than casting.
Volk Wheel Manufacturing (Forging and Casting) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=AAj7_x6HqS0&search=volk%20wheels)
One of my most favorite videos....
Lordrandall
05-25-2006, 10:45 AM
heres a good preview...
Sweet, thanks for the look ahead! Do you have to run spacers at all? And what size tires do you like on them?
:hitit:
OK nevermind, I see your first post about 3mm spacers w/ coilovers. I guess I'll have to slap em on and see.
dct223
05-25-2006, 11:52 AM
Sweet, thanks for the look ahead! Do you have to run spacers at all? And what size tires do you like on them?
:hitit:
OK nevermind, I see your first post about 3mm spacers w/ coilovers. I guess I'll have to slap em on and see.
i like 225/50/16's
you can do 245/45/16
those two sizes will allow you to keep the right spedo readings..... I was thinking about 225/45/16's and lowering it more but that means id probably get stuck over speed bumps instead of scrapping...
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