something keeps bothering me....

[S13 Passion]

i keep watching the video over and over again and i cant help to wonder why the hell a 200hp type R beat a 220hp Silvia K in the 1/4 mile (im sure youve all seen it).  even though i love Type Rs, i just dont like to see it beat a silvia, especially when it has less HP.

[SR20Fastback]

From what I understand Nissan does a faily half assed job on gearing. This might be a or the factor that would cause the Silvia to lose.

[gh6o6]

you lose alot in the drive train for rwd
arent intergas lighter?
if its an all motor type r then it will have the power continuously rather than wating for turbo spool
those figures are peak hp

[crazycuban]

Man, this video has been on this board a million times, it has been discussed a million times, type r guys even came over here and argued with us.  The point is, the integra type r is NOT FASTER than the silvia.  Period.  It all came down to the driver.  The Type R only weighs 50 lbs less than the S14 (2650 type R, 2700 silvia).  IN TESTS, not just in a video, the type R runs 14.6 or 14.5.  The Silvia runs low 14's.  The Silvia is faster.  Stop arguing about it.  I could beat a McLearen F1 if the driver was shitty enough.

[misnomer]

Quick correction, just because it's a type R motor doesn't mean it gets full range power moreso than a turbo motor. VTEC kicks in at higher RPMs, much higher than most factory turbos come to boost.

And yes, it's a video. If all videos were true many more cars would blow up in accidents, and they'd get stuck on railway tracks, and you'd have high speed chases in downtown San Franciso on a weekly basis.

Just 'cause you saw it on the internet doesn't make it true <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[tnord]

don't forget the fact that the itr has about 2k more rpm's before it has to shift. maybe the itr can make the 1/4 in 3rd, while the silvia has to get into 4th. it takes about .2 sec to shift, so that could play a small role.

[camppain]

why do people feel like their penis is smaller if they get beat? or they lose their pride? get over it its a race a 240 is not the ultimate race car! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

plus how do you know the itr was not modified?

[riot]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (camppain @ June 10 2002,02:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">why do people feel like their penis is smaller if they get beat? or they lose their pride? get over it its a race a 240 is not the ultimate race car! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

plus how do you know the itr was not modified?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
sooooooo fucking right on man!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>

-ryan

[S13 Passion]

hmmm.... good points. &nbsp;it must have been the shifting...

[240sig]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (camppain @ June 10 2002,03:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">why do people feel like their penis is smaller if they get beat?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
My penis does get smaller when I get beat. &nbsp;It makes me loose the constant hard on I get from driving my car.

[camppain]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sig @ June 11 2002,10:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (camppain @ June 10 2002,03:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">why do people feel like their penis is smaller if they get beat?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
My penis does get smaller when I get beat. It makes me loose the constant hard on I get from driving my car.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
maybe you should invest time in a relationship with a woman? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

im sorry to hear that sir