Very dissapointed....

[jdm_s14_zenki]

Well, just found out that my S14 SR block is warped, the head is warped and cannot be re-decked again. The block was just rebuilt 3 weeks ago..ive already spent way too much money...:bash:

What do i do now? Ive located an S14 SR bare block for $250 and another for $300 but theres no pistons crank or anything...i already have a head being shipped to me...

Should I rebuild the block with forged pistons and rods? or try to locate a block with everything in it, that works perfectly, which is near impossible to find for S14 sr..:(

Let me know what u guys think...i need the route that is the least expensive but i need to make sure the car runs good when all is said and done.

Also, if i used oversized pistons, will i need a standalone to run it?

All opinions will be considered.

[DRIFTING_SIL_EIGHTY]

i think you should try to contact the company who originaly did your motor. im not gonna say the company's name cuz i dont wanna stir up any trouble. you know who im talking about though but feel free to put em on blast. but umm...about the gasket, we dont have it in stock. but since you need a block, ill keep an eye out and keep you posted on the gasket.

[Dousan_PG]

yeah why rebuild using stock parts?
upgrade it!!
standalone? go w/ a rom tune way cheaper (enthalpy to the rescue)
i got a stock headgasket for sale mabye. im rebuilding my motor, got the OE gasket kit. s14 sr also.

[jdm_s14_zenki]

i think you should try to contact the company who originaly did your motor. im not gonna say the company's name cuz i dont wanna stir up any trouble. you know who im talking about though but feel free to put em on blast. but umm...about the gasket, we dont have it in stock. but since you need a block, ill keep an eye out and keep you posted on the gasket.
ya i know what you mean. if u can keep ur eye out for a full shortblock then that would be awesome. im in trouble right now with cash so...i dont know what to do with this situation..

[jdm_s14_zenki]

trust me, i would love to upgrade...and everything but i need the cheapest route available, thats a reliable fix...if upgrading pistons, rods, ect is the cheapest way, then i guess i have no choice, but if there's a cheaper way, then i gotta do what i gotta do.

Getting oversized pistons and aftermarket rods, i cant use stock ecu with AFc?? do i have to upgrade computer?

[Omarius Maximus]

You shouldn't need an aftermarket ecu for a oversized pistons or aftermaket rods. Your Ecu is tuned to supply as much fuel as the 370cc injectors can provide. A little bit more displacement will not max out your injectors. An ecu tune is meant specifically for larger injectors or a diff maf. Slight changes in induction will be taken care of with the stock MAF as long as your within the 370cc injectors duty cycle.

[Omarius Maximus]

Good luck with your car, If I were you I'd just find a cheap long block. Replace the oil pan, main seals, water pump and belts, and your all set to go.

[dct223]

where did you locate those two bare s14sr blocks??? a friend of mine might be interested...

[efextasy]

hey man where did u get ur motor install?
I always read threads about something bad with ur sr-20det

[jdm_s14_zenki]

Good luck with your car, If I were you I'd just find a cheap long block. Replace the oil pan, main seals, water pump and belts, and your all set to go.
Thanks for the good word. problem is, with my motor, theres no such thing as long block...its either, new motorset, rebuild, or one in a million chance to search for longblocks. which is why im leaning towards a performance rebuild. doesnt make sense to rebuild with stock parts again....
where did you locate those two bare s14sr blocks??? a friend of mine might be interested...
luckily, i did find one of very few S14 blocks available in the US. this was a miracle. after calling every single importer, shop,ect...they all told me that im SOL, near impossible to find what im looking for. But i called this one guy, he had 1 S14 sr head which i bought and i get it thurs. and he had 2 bare S14 sr blocks. 1st block needs to be re-sleeved. 2nd block is perfect, maybe a minor re-decking just to make sure the surface is flat. of course im buying the second block and will have it shipped immediately. If ur looking for a block and dont mind re-sleeving it (darton sleeves, hks sleeves, ect) then pm me and i'll hook u up with that guy that has it. its the last one, and they are impossible to find, believe me, ive tried. with darton sleeves, i know you can boost 30+ psi with no problems.
hey man where did u get ur motor install?
I always read threads about something bad with ur sr-20det
ya man, this is one thing ive learned. NEVER take ur SR to someone that doesnt know what theyre doing, and NEVER take it to a shop that cares about volume/money over quality and service. to make a long story short, i will tell u where NOT to go and where to go using my own experiences.

LS Auto: They contract this mom pop shop next door to them to do customer work. they will only work on their Falken cars, and big name cars that have sponsorships. Theyre too good for us little people now. (money over quality)
AND THAT IS WHY MY BLOCK IS WARPED and 2 HEAD GASKETS BLOWN in 2 weeks. This also goes for BE Customs which works under the same roof as LS auto. BE Customs are the ones that set everything up.

James Auto: These are the contractees that LS auto/BE customs contracted to work on my block rebuild, hence the horrible problems i am having. Again, they are next door to LS auto. After i told them what happened and i was 1.5 hours away from home in the mountains, they did not help me at all. They even had a tow truck and would not come get me. They dont want anything to do with my car even though theyre obviously wrong about "the block being ok, does not need resurface" and " the head is ok, and doesnt need resurface" and "compression is 180 across" when in actuality its 120 across...

R&D Factory: They put sugar in my gas tank, you can read about the whole deal on their thread in the Advertisement section and review sections on this forum. DO NOT GO HERE PLEASE!!

MOM & POPS Shops: Do i have to explain why? "SR what???" they dont know the specs, and do not care about specs or FSMs, they just slap stuff together, under torque or over torque, and send u on your way.

THE GOOD PLACES:

SP-Engineering: if u have the money...and if they accept the job..

G-Dimension: THey have my car right now, so far all is good, awesome customer service (they actually call me back when they say they are) but i cannot give a final review yet since my car is in their hands still.

So basically, its obviously sad that there are many more misses then hits on quality service, professionalism, and knowledgeable shops, or maybe its just my luck, or stupidity. Either way you look at it, this has been one big nightmare and im still waiting to wake up...not to mention, the amount of $$ that went down the drain....being stranded, heartache, confusion....and all the rest of those feelings u get.

Now, sorry for rambling like usuall but...this is what im leaning towards

1) get the bare block.
2) rebuild the block but use CP Pistons 8.5:1 compression .020 overbore and eagle rods
3) get the new head, transfer everything over from my old head (cams, ras, cam gears, valve springs, ect...my old head is fully performance built...i will of course lose the port and polish which i dont really NEED anyways.)
4) put everything back together with stock ECU and AFC so i can adjust AFR somewhat...
5) metal head gasket, arp head studs

And be on my merry way until i save enough for stand alone, big turbo, big injectors, and big intercooler..

I guess i should be happy cus im forced to do a massive upgrade?

[Omarius Maximus]

Can't you buy a standalone and run a redtop long block? I think that may end up being slightly cheaper in the end. Maybe 12-1300 for a redtop longblock and 800 for a power FC as opposed to all the machining and labor of putting 5 different engines together.

[CylonFrakker]

scratch the eagle rods get Carillo! Good luck on the rest of the build up!

[jdm_s14_zenki]

Can't you buy a standalone and run a redtop long block? I think that may end up being slightly cheaper in the end. Maybe 12-1300 for a redtop longblock and 800 for a power FC as opposed to all the machining and labor of putting 5 different engines together.
personally, i would rather keep the s14 sr....and with a redtop long block, i would also need intake manifold, and everything else, if i did a redtop, i would need to get a motorset, and harness wiring....i can get CP pistons for crazy cheap...carillo, im not sure of but i'll look into it. if im going to spend $2000-$2500 either on a redtop, or a built S14 Sr then i think it would be wise to build the S14 sr....rather then a just get a stock redtop.

The motor is why i love my car..its a Kouki s14 SR in a zenki with that beautiful jdm front.

[Dousan_PG]

goood luck!
cams arent much more
and get the OE gasket kit thru phase2
lots of little gaskets you cant buy separately
you should replace your oil pump, water pump and the various gaskets (in the kit) totally worth it if you want your motor to be 100% reliable and long term life.

[Slo S14]

Just keep the block and rebuild, you already have a new cylinder head comming so why buy another long block assy?

[jdm_s14_zenki]

goood luck!
cams arent much more
and get the OE gasket kit thru phase2
lots of little gaskets you cant buy separately
you should replace your oil pump, water pump and the various gaskets (in the kit) totally worth it if you want your motor to be 100% reliable and long term life.
i can do oe gasket, i already have aftermarket cams and stuff. but i probably should get a new waterpump and oilpump. have a brand new gaskets from my last rebuild 3 weeks ago

[crazyikimasho]

If you want I can give you a really good price on the gasket kit if you need one.

[jdm_s14_zenki]

If you want I can give you a really good price on the gasket kit if you need one.
hey, i remember u, i bought that oem s14 sr head gasket and that exhaust manifold gasket with 3 metal instead of the 7 metal...was like 3 weeks ago. that gasket is blown :[

Anyways, since im going to redeck the block, most likely, and redeck the head, im going to need a metal head gasket 1.6-1.8mm to make up for the loss in clearance and when u redeck like that, the timing chain will have more slack. hopefully, the MHG and the chain tensioner will make up for that slack.

Looks like im going to build the bottom end with forged internals...let me know what u guys think. I was leaning toward CP Pistons cus theyre good and cheap and no one has had any problems. I was leaning towards eagle rods for the same reason...if theres any ups and downs on these products let me know...was also thinking of the arp rod bolts. worth it or no? anything else i should change? rod bearings are brand new.

[efextasy]

damn man u had some rough times with ur car!
I got my engine swap by ls automotive!
i hadnt had a problem yet with it!
but the engine was install in early 2004
Oh yeah i saw ur car today at G-dimension!
i knew i had seen it b4 by the way im the guy that bought the kyb's for the s13

[jdm_s14_zenki]

i saw ur post and pics on that dudes thread...the s14 for trade..i knew ive seen that car somewhere before lol. ya the car is still at G-dimension, i told them to cancel the job since i decided to sell instead.

[reccakun08]

Awww man that sucks. Its sad to see bad things happen to good people.

[jdm_s14_zenki]

its not as bad as u think.. i just dont have the time, energy, or money to complete my project right now. besides i have new plans for my future and the car has to go for now...down the road i wanna get a completely stock S14 and start a KA-T project.

[sblack13]

boy whats up with all these s14 sr's hitting the shitter? mine threw a rod and went through my block last week. I was just going to rebuild with oem parts because of money issues, then i pulled my mani and turbo off and found a hole. And i don't really have the money right now, to fix it all. Boy did it catch me off guard. The route i am taking is i am getting a long block it's gonna cost 1200$ locally. But it's the best deal i found so far. Wish you all luck.

[jdm_s14_zenki]

damn, threw a rod? that sux....ive never had to deal with something like THAT before. i blew piston rings and figured id just rebuild oem. replaced all parts except for rods and crank in the block 3 weeks ago.