pics of welded diff

[trsilvias13]

Does anyone have pics of the inside of a welded diff? My friend is going to weld my extra diff i have laying around for free. He just wants to see an example.

Thank you

[downshift_sideways]

i have a welded diff in my garage..brb. i'll take a pic of it for you man..BRB. give me 5-10 mins..

It is a Weld Loc 3.

[m0rex]

Yeah i would love to see a pic.

[CaoBoY]

hope luke doesnt beat you up for showing the way he welds it.
oh wait, its version 3, not version 4.

[downshift_sideways]

hope luke doesnt beat you up for showing the way he welds it.
oh wait, its version 3, not version 4.
SHHH!!

lol i unbolted everything just to show youguys. hehe.
let me know if you need other pics. I can see the welds.

[JVD]

Your camera doesn't have a macro button by any chance, does it? It should be a little flower. It would help out a lot. All the pics are out of focus.

JVD.

[NemeGuero]

Damn, take 'em down Anthony.
If you can't figure out how to do it by looking at it, you shouldn't be doing it yourself.

Pay the cheap price and have it done right.

[2iv0 sx]

someone refer me to the welder; their in cali right?

I might be able to pick up an extra diff from the junkyard ;)

[NemeGuero]

Its Luke from Shock drifting.
blu808

[DJPimpFlex]

yea get one from luke. Hes welded 2 for me so far and neither have been at all a problem. The guy has welded more diffs than anyone arround, so you know he knows what hes doing.

[2iv0 sx]

forsure thankyou sir.

[A Spec Products]

cmon guys its not rocket science

i think if anything luke SHOULD show pics of his welding

i mean if you were getting a custom cage done, wouldnt you want to see his welds?

[TurDz]

Well I think blu808 considers it proprietary information, especially since its a partial business for him. He mentioned he did a lot of trial and error to get it correct.

[SochBAT]

If i was luke, i'd kinda be a little irked, being as this was his work that he specifically didn't want shown.

But yea, if you can't put 2 and 2 together on how to weld up a diff, you shouldn't be doing it. I've got a feeling he's going to FUBAR the diff.

And remember, its an integral part of the car, so if it does indeed get FUBAR, its up to YOU, the owner, to get it home for repairs. Have it done professionally, its better to have peace of mind about something so important not crapping out on you.

What if it craps out while on the freeway? Then again, what if it doesn't?

Again, if it was me, i'd have someone who's done it time and time again to weld it. Better safe than sorry.

I've had my diff done up by Flybert since i've had my car (roughly a year) and its still locked just like i put it in yesterday. And he'd be a bit closer that Luke, if distance is a problem.

Either or, someone with experience > fresh out of school welder. Not to diss on your buddy tho. Sorry if it comes off that way.

[Neejay]

Ah, so thats how it looks. Thanks for the pics.

[krustindumm]

Really though, it doesn't matter if we see the welds. They always go in the same place (spider gears) andweld beads generally all look the same. From looking at his welds we can not tell what his amperage/voltage settings were or what type of filler rod/wire he used.

I've welded my own, mine went in the same spots, looked exactly the same (without seeing his opened up first), and both of mine failed. My next diff will be a Weld Locd.

[DJPimpFlex]

yea its not to hard to figure out, but its very important to get good penatration. The wire size would just have to be big, and welding with gas is a must. I bet after a few trys I could get a good one pretty easy, but on the other hand hes done it and they all have worked great. There are countless people on the boards that run them in dailys and full race cars with no problems. So pay for the piece of mind, besides its only $60.

[S14DB]

People have been welding diffs before Luke was even born.
http://www.derbypro.com/tut9.html
http://www.circletrack.com/projectbuild/75118/index1.html
http://www.ih8mud.com/tech/woody/welded.html


Granted, it's more the skill of the welder then the technique of the weld.

[!Zar!]

Anthony, I highly suggest you take those pictures down untill you check with Luke if it's ok with them.

I mean, what if someone attempts to make their own "weld locd" and it breaks.
That could hurt his credibility even if he didn't do it.

And there is more to a weld locd then just welding it...
Trust me, there is a reason it's so popular.

[SochBAT]

i remember seeing a welded diff done by my buddy for his own car. He pretty much jammed nuts and bolts in, and welded it up to make it look like ABC soup, replacing ABC with nuts, bolts and washers.

The diff exploded, messing up his axles, and having to get it towed.

Thats the price you pay for DIY.

[Dousan_PG]

flyberts welded diff holds up fine
i know a few folks w/ them. no problems. street driven and tracked.

luck runs a good thing go, he doesgood work on the diff action

[trsilvias13]

My friend is a good welded. He just want to make sure where other people is welding so he can do it to my diff. $75 is not a lot of money. I can pay luke and then get him to weld a diff then copy that onto another diff the resell his diff. I am not doing this for business. It is just my friend is doing it for free so why not. He is not doing for business either. He own a muffler shop.

If you type in welded diff on yahoo and click on images it show many welded diff. I just want to show my friend morespecific on R200 diff. It is not like I ask for luke's method of welding, I just asked to see welded diff.

If the weld break, i'll just buy an obx lsd or something on my diff that already on the car. I want to try a welded diff that is laying around collecting dust.

[FaLKoN240]

DON'T POST PICS OF THE WELDED DIFF. There's a reason Luke doesn't do so.

You really need to think about shit before you do it bro.

[i8yourfwd]

Take the pics down.. or face the wrath of neg repping shock loyal premies.. hahaha have you no respect?

[mandoz85]

This was done by a local fabrication shop

http://www.photodump.org/stored5/img06729aw.jpg

http://www.photodump.org/stored5/img06738mo.jpg

[Slip&Sliden 240]

There is more that can be welded then what you guys have shown. But Im not going to post pics, you should be able to figure it out.

[downshift_sideways]

my bads guys, sorry i wasnt thinking about the pics.

my bad luke, taking pics down now.

[volc0m08]

imho I think anyone can post pics of the product they pay for. This is like saying stop posting pics of Nissans concept car because Ford might get some new idea or something. Or not posting pictures of the new coilovers I just got because KTS will get angry if tein might steal the design. Come on guys it doesn’t take a genius to weld a diff. IF Luke created something that was ultimately crazy and something that I would be even proud of putting on my car then id chime in on not putting his product pictures on line.... its just a simple welded diff. Just my 2cents.

[240silvia]

lol, are you guys serious? It's welding!!!!!! My god, almost anyone can do it! My boy welded the shit out of his diff. Daily driver and he does drift events in MB every Wednesday. He has had it in there for 6 months with no problems. My god, you guys are acting like there is a science to this crap. He welded the spider gears together, and then turned the welder up so hot that it melted the gears together. Over isn't a bad thing on this. Just do it yourself, it's not hard!

[FaLKoN240]

imho I think anyone can post pics of the product they pay for. This is like saying stop posting pics of Nissans concept car because Ford might get some new idea or something. Or not posting pictures of the new coilovers I just got because KTS will get angry if tein might steal the design. Come on guys it doesn’t take a genius to weld a diff. IF Luke created something that was ultimately crazy and something that I would be even proud of putting on my car then id chime in on not putting his product pictures on line.... its just a simple welded diff. Just my 2cents.

I'm sure if Luke has some special way of welding, and he asks you when you BUY it, not to post pictures of it on the internet, it's only polite that you follow his wishes.

Luke welds diffs not to make money, but to help out people trying to get into drifting.

[NemeGuero]

Yah, that's fine. Then go do it. But don't show people who shouldn't be doing it how to do it.

If they can't figure out how to do it, they don't have enough know-how/experience to attempt it on their own.

That's why its dumb to share the ideas. And with the Nissan vs Ford example.. those are huge scale businesses. Luke's 1 dude...
C'mon now...

[S14DB]

Yah, that's fine. Then go do it. But don't show people who shouldn't be doing it how to do it.

If they can't figure out how to do it, they don't have enough know-how/experience to attempt it on their own.

That's why its dumb to share the ideas.
:tweak: :eek: :ugh:

So, you're for the censoring of information? When does the book burning start?

[NemeGuero]

For the censoring of info that people have to invest human capital in to develop. Its the law actually, and in a court case, he'd win.

If they can't figure it out, they're not smart enough to be able to weld it themselves. Which probably means they SHOULDN'T do it. How does that not make sense?

If you know how a diff works, or even take one apart.. it should be pretty damn appearant how to make it NOT open. If not, you fail.

[S14DB]

For the censoring of info that people have to invest human capital in to develop. Its the law actually, and in a court case, he'd win.

If they can't figure it out, they're not smart enough to be able to weld it themselves. Which probably means they SHOULDN'T do it. How does that not make sense?

If you know how a diff works, or even take one apart.. it should be pretty damn appearant how to make it NOT open. If not, you fail.
Not without a non disclosure agreement. also, the links I posted prove that it is common knowledge and not a trade secret.

[NemeGuero]

It should be common knowledge. But then why was he asking for pics?
And a verbal agreement would hold for a non disclosure agreement.

[TurDz]

I'm sure if Luke has some special way of welding, and he asks you when you BUY it, not to post pictures of it on the internet, it's only polite that you follow his wishes.

Luke welds diffs not to make money, but to help out people trying to get into drifting.

You just contradicted yourself. If he's not in it to make money, why not share? According to many people, anyone with decent welding experience can do it. If he shared his "secret" technique, it would benfit everyone, and still do what you pointed out: help out people trying to get into drifting.

I understand what blu808 is trying to do though, especially if you've taken the time to test out weld setups on the street & track. Just trying to have a continuous supply of customers.

[gotta240]

This is pathetic...... It just a welded diff. If he shows pics of lukes or any other diff, who gives a shit!

If luke was doing it to "help others" you guys wouldn't be bitching about a picture of his work. I understand lukes point a view as well, however, you guys need to realize, SHOWING A PICTURE is not going to hurt or help lukes business. He charges such a minimal cost, that someone will either go to him, or try to do it themselves... Showing pics will only help the guys who do it on their own, who WILL DO IT ON THEIR OWN, regardless.

Anyways...my question is.... WHO THE HELL HAD A WELDED DIFF BLOW UP ON THEM?! What exactly happened when the diff "blew up" and how was it welded?

Its not rocket science, so i dont see how it could have failed.... Basically the diff tries to suck the welds into themselves anyways......so i dont see how it could fail....

[FaLKoN240]

You just contradicted yourself. If he's not in it to make money, why not share? According to many people, anyone with decent welding experience can do it. If he shared his "secret" technique, it would benfit everyone, and still do what you pointed out: help out people trying to get into drifting.

I understand what blu808 is trying to do though, especially if you've taken the time to test out weld setups on the street & track. Just trying to have a continuous supply of customers.

Maybe he doesn't want people to copy his welding style? I can't be too sure, I wish he'd post in here. I just know when I got mine, he asked me not to post pics on how to do it.

[gotta240]

oh..well if he asked specifically, then i guess it would be courtious not to.....

[Irukandji]

SHHH!!

lol i unbolted everything just to show youguys. hehe.
let me know if you need other pics. I can see the welds.


Smart move... :ugh:

[trsilvias13]

Why cant pics be posted of welded diffs? Luke or others?

If no pics should be posted for reference, then I suggest taking out the 240sx FAQ for other people so they cant get into 240sx. I seen countless post asking where people ask for advise of "where does this goes?" and people answer with pics showing them. Put this situation to the sr swap . If it was the same case. Lot of people shouldnt be having a sr. Why? Because they should be able to figure it out right?

some response are hella stupid.
I am sorry to even asking because my friend wanted to do it for free. Man people who try to DIY some stuff cant even ask for advise. If that the case. Why dont people take all their swap to a shop or get certified places to do all their work.

[FaLKoN240]

The materials, and process Luke uses is what makes a welded diff. . .welded. All you have to do is weld the spider gears so they don't move.

Welded diff= common knowledge

Weld Locd= not so common knowledge

[drift into a curb]

weld locd is the gay. if he was truly helping out the community, then post the pictures. if he doesn't want to help zilvia and have a monopoly over his "technique," then that's his thing. (not that he has a monopoly, since flybert hooks up welded too). but "it's OBVIOUS he's not doing it to make money." yeah fucking right.

[NemeGuero]

If you know how to weld, and now how a diff works... YOU DON'T NEED PICTURES OF IT.

If not, you shouldn't be attempting it.

[95zilvia]

This thread is the fucking dumbs.

[ThatGuy]

Pictures have been posted. I'm putting a stop to this thread because it is no longer about the Thread starters question.