View Full Version : Red/Clear Taillights for fastbacks
j_ren180
04-30-2006, 12:54 AM
Just wondering if anyone has actually made their own red and clear taillights for fastbacks. If you have then whats the procedures and what type of material have you used for the clear part? Thanks in advance. Oh btw I don't want to buy the ones on ebay or clearcorners.
you're going to need to use some kind of scratch resistan plastic that you can form over curves, probably lexan, and prepare for it to look like complete nuclear garbage
BlackSilEighty
04-30-2006, 09:09 PM
Try taking the lense apart. There is a clear piece behind the yellow lense. Just take a couple screws off from the back of the light.
j_ren180
05-01-2006, 01:22 PM
I just tried heating it up (the same method as the headlight lense) and I was unsuccessful. I think I left it in too long. I threw it in the oven and both the red and amber lense got worped. BlackSilEighty, have you done this before? If so what kind of lense did you replace the amber one with? Thanks. If I ever get it done I'll post pics.
AllenRPS13
05-01-2006, 02:11 PM
i wanna do it also, but dunno how to do it... anyone can help?
BlackSilEighty
05-01-2006, 02:46 PM
Don't put plastic lenses in the oven :eek: There should be just a couple little screws holding the lense to the tail light assembly. I've never done it before but I've heard of others doing it and they said it looked decent. You don't replace any lenses. There is a clear lense behind the amber lense. What I meant is that you take off the amber lense and there will be a clear lense behind it that you can just keep.
240meowth
05-01-2006, 02:53 PM
Don't put plastic lenses in the oven :eek: There should be just a couple little screws holding the lense to the tail light assembly. I've never done it before but I've heard of others doing it and they said it looked decent. You don't replace any lenses. There is a clear lense behind the amber lense. What I meant is that you take off the amber lense and there will be a clear lense behind it that you can just keep.
it needs to go into the oven, it's glued in. There are a few bolts that holds them in as well.
The clear thing behind the lens is sort of a weird looking peice, I don't know if anyone would want to keep that =b
How do I know, because I work with headlight and tail lights! Maybe this is the perfect time to show off my complete failer for the coupe!
http://www.nu-garage.com/Meowth/led.JPG
j_ren180
05-01-2006, 04:24 PM
Yah you have to heat it up because like 240meowth said theres like glue or cocking that holds the lenses in. 240meowth, have you ever tried what I'm trying to do since you work with taillights?
BlackSilEighty
05-01-2006, 05:38 PM
I know there's glue, but you don't have to heat it up to take it apart. You can slowly pry it apart. I did that with my corner lenses and turn signals. I had to pry them apart to clean out some algae and reseal them to keep the moisture out. I didn't reseal them with glue, I used weather cauking.
chlatboy
05-01-2006, 08:19 PM
Okay, im working on a set of thse rite now. First off, the lense is actually glued on, even heating it up wont do any good since the clue is like super thick. The screws do hold it in but i dont htink it does much. I hammered the ornage off and below is clear plastic.
However, this plastic is sunken in and wil not look good at all if not covered.
I got the orange part out, now i gotta find some sort of plastic to cover up the hole. Some ppl said that they used the covering of light fixtures but it didnt work for me. WHen trying to cut them they plastic would crap and chip making it too hard to work with.
If i find anything new ill let u guys know.
BTW i dont have a fastback. Took them off a friends car to try this out.
j_ren180
05-01-2006, 08:49 PM
Actually heating it up does help but you just have to find the right temp. and right amount of time to keep it in the oven or heat gun. When I threw it in the oven it worked the lense came off really easy. The only reason i worped the red part was cause I thought maybe thats what was holding the amber part in. Than I popped it off a little and put the light back in the over for a little longer. Thats what screwed me over. If I didn't do that, than the light would be good. Chlatboy, how did you get the lense off? My friend did the same light thing and used those flourescent light covers but doesn't want to tell me how he did it. Bastard. Well keep the information coming please. Theres gotta be someone out there that has completed this.
chlatboy
05-01-2006, 09:02 PM
well i wont kwon about usign the oven since the lense is gone. I hammered the orange lents breaking it into tiny little pieces, then i scraped off the remained part of the lenses which is stuck in the really sticky glue.
Now i gota find a way to recover the part of teh lense i broke.
BlackSilEighty
05-01-2006, 09:09 PM
Is the lense flat enough to cut a new one out of plexiglass? The only problem i see is having too much curve. If you can get it cut good and smooth out the edges, maybe spray it with some frosted glass spray paint on the inside...
How about cutting it out with a dremel? Wouldn't it cause less stress on the plastic then a blade?
FaLKoN240
05-01-2006, 09:15 PM
Just get the Ebay red/clears. They look newer, and you don't need to own an oven to install them.
chlatboy
05-01-2006, 09:26 PM
yea, just saw them too. THey must be the newer versions since this is the first time ive seen them.
anyway heres the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-89-90-91-92-94-S13-240SX-180SX-3DR-HATCH-TAIL-LIGHTS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33716QQitemZ8060 410792QQrdZ1
mods remove if you dont want it here.
BlackSilEighty
05-01-2006, 09:59 PM
eh, $235? They're still expensive. I'd just keep the OE lights personally. For another $100-150 you could get some koukis if you price around.
axiomatik
05-01-2006, 10:20 PM
those ebay ones aren't bad looking, best i've seen for the hb yet.
FaLKoN240
05-01-2006, 10:55 PM
eh, $235? They're still expensive. I'd just keep the OE lights personally. For another $100-150 you could get some koukis if you price around.
How do you rationalize spending more money ON top of the ebay tails when he wanted to do a free mod?
BlackSilEighty
05-01-2006, 11:04 PM
Just get the Ebay red/clears. They look newer, and you don't need to own an oven to install them.
I believe it was you who brought up spending money instead of a free "mod". Just how I see it is that you should work a little harder and save up for what you really want so you will be happy and not end up spending even more money later down the road.
CaoBoY
05-01-2006, 11:17 PM
red/clears only look good on the coupes. just like s13 fronts. they would/ probably do, look ricey on fastbacks. anyone have these yet?
FaLKoN240
05-01-2006, 11:52 PM
I believe it was you who brought up spending money instead of a free "mod". Just how I see it is that you should work a little harder and save up for what you really want so you will be happy and not end up spending even more money later down the road.
There's a difference between $235, and $500 I don't believe that the red/clears are a great deal, but I think that kouki tails are fucking bullshit.
The difference between free, and the red/clears is less than HALF as much as the difference between the red/clears and koukis.
j_ren180
05-02-2006, 12:03 AM
I apologize for things heating up. I don't mean for this to be a hate thread or something to stir up problems. I do have a set of kouki taillights on right now. I don't want to buy the ebay lights because I really don't want to spend anymore money on things I really don't need. The only reason why I wanted to do this light thing was to be different a little and the pride and joy of me saying I did this myself with the help of some people on here giving helpful information. I've seen these taillights on a car where I live and on a Drift Tengoku video and I personally don't think they look rice on a fastback. The only difference is that its not the crystal look. It still keeps its stock look. I also have the 180SX center garnish. I want to be able to keep that and use it with the taillights while having it match and look clean. If I buy the ebay ones, it wont flow with the 180SX center. Thanks for the helpful tips. Again I apologize for this thread causing people to argue over.
BlackSilEighty
05-02-2006, 12:24 AM
There's a difference between $235, and $500 I don't believe that the red/clears are a great deal, but I think that kouki tails are fucking bullshit.
The difference between free, and the red/clears is less than HALF as much as the difference between the red/clears and koukis.
You can pick up used koukis for $300-$400. If you catch someone desperate to part out there car I've seen them go for under $300. If you really like something I think you can justify yourself to save up for what you really want. It's like a kid who sees something in the shop window and saves up all summer or something. Just work a little hard and get what you want.
rossfashow
05-02-2006, 12:26 AM
those red clear ebay fb taillights are pretty cool but i like the kouki ones better. i guess it those ebay ones will look good on certain colored cars. what you guys think?
mrmephistopheles
05-02-2006, 12:35 AM
I actually like the eBay red/clears.. :keke:
BlackSilEighty
05-02-2006, 12:39 AM
I like the stock zenkis :bigok: Plus they come on your car from the factory, you can't beat that.
dvdevo
05-02-2006, 12:51 AM
those ebay red/clears looked great on this white car around here. I was seriously going to pick them up but i figured another 150 i can get kouki tails. =\ So kouki tails it is =] Unless they drop ebay lights price to 200 shipped.
S13SilviaGirl
05-02-2006, 02:51 AM
yeah, the red/clear smoked is nicer than the ones linked though, but htey just came out this jan at TAS.
mr_240sx
05-02-2006, 06:27 AM
i dont know.... those lights look ok but theres just something about those kouki lights tha ti love!
SoCalS14
05-03-2006, 10:35 AM
yea, just saw them too. THey must be the newer versions since this is the first time ive seen them.
anyway heres the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-89-90-91-92-94-S13-240SX-180SX-3DR-HATCH-TAIL-LIGHTS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33716QQitemZ8060 410792QQrdZ1
mods remove if you dont want it here.
Impressed those look fairly nice.
j_ren180
05-03-2006, 05:15 PM
Here are some pics I found of what I want to do.
http://www.jdmrice.com/events/DD5/DD5_028.JPG
http://www.clearcorners.com/products/nissan/240sx1/imgs/featcarB01.jpg
http://www.clearcorners.com/products/nissan/240sx1/imgs/featcarB03.jpg
http://www.clearcorners.com/products/nissan/240sx1/imgs/featcarC02.jpg
Does anyone know what happened to the Jdm Rice car?
FaLKoN240
05-03-2006, 07:54 PM
Those lights on clearcorners cost so much money, you might as well spend the money on the ebay ones.
j_ren180
05-03-2006, 08:10 PM
Yah I know they're expensive thats why I'm trying to make my own. And I'd rather not spend a whole lot of money buying ebay tail lights when I can make my own not as clear but what I'm going for, for a whole lot cheaper. I appreciate the comments but I want to know if anyone has actually did this. If so please post pics, how you did it, and what kind of plastic was used for the lense.
mrmephistopheles
05-03-2006, 08:21 PM
Does anyone know what happened to the Jdm Rice car?
It met an untimely fate.
kouki_s14
05-03-2006, 08:27 PM
i see a orange widebody S13 hatch with the plate JDM RICE around hacienda/rowland area. i assumed it was PJ Bonifacio's car since it is always parked next to a PJ Bonifacio trailer. i think its the same car, correct me if im wrong but it has been restored?
AllenRPS13
05-03-2006, 08:29 PM
Yah I know they're expensive thats why I'm trying to make my own. And I'd rather not spend a whole lot of money buying ebay tail lights when I can make my own not as clear but what I'm going for, for a whole lot cheaper. I appreciate the comments but I want to know if anyone has actually did this. If so please post pics, how you did it, and what kind of plastic was used for the lense.
i also want the red/clear tail light, but seems the one on ebay also cost a lot... i also prefer to make my own...
j_ren180
05-03-2006, 08:58 PM
Kouki s14-does it have the kouki tail lights on or the red/clear lights? Also can you take pics or do you have some?
AllenRPS13-So far I've been told that the common way is to just break the amber lense and take the pieces out, clean the cauking, then reseal then put on the lense. I have yet to figure out what kind of lense or plastic to put yet.
Like I said above, if anyone has done this please share some info on what kind of plasitic is used. Thanks.
TheTimanator
05-03-2006, 10:05 PM
Those lights on clearcorners cost so much money, you might as well spend the money on the ebay ones.
The Clearcorners are $325 without the LED conversion and IMO they look much better than the ebay ones..more oem looking. Based on all the comments made here about clearcorners products, I'd bet they are also considerably higher quality than the ebay ones as well.
All that said, I plan on getting myself a set of clearcorners tail lights someday.
kouki_s14
05-03-2006, 10:24 PM
Kouki s14-does it have the kouki tail lights on or the red/clear lights? Also can you take pics or do you have some?
AllenRPS13-So far I've been told that the common way is to just break the amber lense and take the pieces out, clean the cauking, then reseal then put on the lense. I have yet to figure out what kind of lense or plastic to put yet.
Like I said above, if anyone has done this please share some info on what kind of plasitic is used. Thanks.
i believe it has kouki tails and sorry no pics
j_ren180
05-03-2006, 10:39 PM
Dont worry about the pics its all good. TheTimanator, thats exactly what I was going for. That OEM look. I'm pretty sure that clearcorners make their tail lights with high quility stuff. Why else would they sell tail lights just with clear blinkers for $325.
Flipzide
05-03-2006, 10:42 PM
anyone have any pics of the ebay red/clear taillights installed on their car?
ive been curious about them ever since i saw them first put up for auction.
5upra
05-03-2006, 10:43 PM
If anybody has the ebays I would like to preview them
FaLKoN240
05-03-2006, 10:53 PM
i see a orange widebody S13 hatch with the plate JDM RICE around hacienda/rowland area. i assumed it was PJ Bonifacio's car since it is always parked next to a PJ Bonifacio trailer. i think its the same car, correct me if im wrong but it has been restored?
That could be like. . . one of the many in a series, I think he's on JDMRICE 7 or something :confused:
TheTimanator
05-03-2006, 11:00 PM
anyone have any pics of the ebay red/clear taillights installed on their car?
ive been curious about them ever since i saw them first put up for auction.
My guess is that (kinda like the coupe version) they look good on certain colors fastbacks with some kind of aero. The more agressive the better.
My concern with quality would be the housings leaking and then fogging up and whatnot.
AllenRPS13
05-03-2006, 11:10 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c63/AllenRPS13/WhiteRedTailOnHatch.jpg
i find this a few weeks ago... for those who wants to preview the ebay one, u can have the idea how it looks like
AllenRPS13
05-03-2006, 11:11 PM
it looks pretty cool on white hatch IMO
dvdevo
05-03-2006, 11:17 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c63/AllenRPS13/WhiteRedTailOnHatch.jpg
i find this a few weeks ago... for those who wants to preview the ebay one, u can have the idea how it looks like
heh that was the exact car i was talking about. I seen those in person, they're pretty damn good though. I forgot the guy's name..vince? luis? ahh forgot.
btw. they looked better in person.
j_ren180
05-04-2006, 12:31 AM
Thats dope. It looks nice but thats not what I'm going for. I want to keep that OEM look. Dont get me wrong, mean props for a sick car but again I want that stock look.
Dousan_PG
05-04-2006, 12:34 AM
i see a orange widebody S13 hatch with the plate JDM RICE around hacienda/rowland area. i assumed it was PJ Bonifacio's car since it is always parked next to a PJ Bonifacio trailer. i think its the same car, correct me if im wrong but it has been restored?
no
jdmrice 1 died
it crashed and got totalled
i was there, i watched it
jdmrice2 i think is the kazama car one fastback too
jdmrice3 is the orange one w/ ..vskf?
richard (mr jdmrice himself) works at PJs, thats why you alway ssee it there.
richard is a good guy.
mrmephistopheles
05-04-2006, 12:37 AM
no
jdmrice 1 died
it crashed and got totalled
i was there, i watched it
jdmrice2 i think is the kazama car one fastback too
jdmrice3 is the orange one w/ ..vskf?
richard (mr jdmrice himself) works at PJs, thats why you alway ssee it there.
richard is a good guy.
You crackbaby.
JDMRICE1 = red & crashed
JDMRICE2 = pink/15 face
JDMRICE3 = kazama car
orange one? must be since we've been out here.
Dousan_PG
05-04-2006, 12:42 AM
yeah either way, way too many cars hahahahaha
yeah i forgot aobut that pink one!
orange one is relatively new
i hvaent seen richard do any events though!! !or nicky! wtf..slackers.
BlackSilEighty
05-04-2006, 10:37 AM
If i got those eBay red/clears, I would keep the 240sx center panel.
axiomatik
05-04-2006, 11:45 AM
I doubt that would look very good, I don't think the two reds would match.
BlackSilEighty
05-04-2006, 12:19 PM
Then I'd paint the center piece the color of the car. :D
j_ren180
05-04-2006, 01:48 PM
I just got an email back from clearcorners and they don't sell non-LED red and clear tail lights anymore. Unfortunately, they couldn't tell me what type of plastic they use for the clear part (understandable because of business).
kensreliableb18b
05-04-2006, 02:08 PM
yes, the orange car belongs to richard and it looks like jdmrice1 but back to the topic. those ebay lights dont look too bad. only thing is, its ebay, and once everyone gets them, it'll look cheesy :(
TheTimanator
05-04-2006, 02:42 PM
I just got an email back from clearcorners and they don't sell non-LED red and clear tail lights anymore. Unfortunately, they couldn't tell me what type of plastic they use for the clear part (understandable because of business).
really? that sucks! The LED ones are gonna be really exspensive and more than I would care to put into tail lights....
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