All new 2007 BMW 3-Series

[SiI40sx]

Have you guys heard of it?? Twin-Turbo inline 6 300hp!! And looks WAY better than the 2006 3 series, especially in the rear. Check it out www.bmwusa.com its on the front page, does anyone know what this car will be priced at?? I would mind getting one next year, I was starting to look into a new car, 20-40(max)k out the door

[Irukandji]

Looks hot

http://www.bmwusa.com/nr/rdonlyres/051b18c2-cb78-4489-8f56-cc0fd9bf474a/0/new3coupe_overview_img.jpg
http://i3.tinypic.com/w8oweq.jpg
the snail is a little small though

[m0rex]

Thats one badass car. Im guessing its going to wheigh a lot though.

[SilviaDriver]

rear looks like the new 7 series

[KA24DESOneThree]

Pig. Screw all the new Bimmers, the 3 series spirit died with the advent of the E36. They just get heavier and more expensive.

[alexchanman]

its gonna be priced at the low 40's. overrated in my opinion.

[MrBrightSide]

i rather get the new g35. according to infiniti, the fourth gen vq motors will push out 300 plus hp. thats all natural baby

[jdm538]

damn that looks like a pain to work on, i dont like the sharp line on the side.

[WilloW]

That is so freaking sweet!

[wootwoot]

i rather get the new g35. according to infiniti, the fourth gen vq motors will push out 300 plus hp. thats all natural baby



less torque and more narrow powerband though. This might get better cruising mileage too


turbos arent to small for there being two of them and it only making 300hp

[i8yourfwd]

Wonder if they're targeting the up and coming GT-R?

[Ritz S14]

the snail is a little small though

Looks like a TWIN to me.

Also.. it has an ELECTRIC water pump.. wow!! Routing that belt with out a diagram would suck.. haha

[OptionZero]

i think it looks sweet

it may be less "BMW-ish" than past BMWs but I bet it is a helluvalot more sport oriented in steering and handling feel than the IS or G

[usdm180sx]

Nice, but make mine 3.5 in a Lexus IS w/306 na bhp and Toyota reliability.

[lucky7]

just wait till someone like AA (active autowerks) gets ahold of it. i predict this thing being an aftermarket monster. you will see.

hell, most people dont realise that people are making over 400hp on a stock turbo E36 M3. those things seem to handle the boost VERY well. there is/was a guy on bimmerforums with a 500+ whp M coupe. stock engine + headgasket and studs. this will be a milestone i think.

[wootwoot]

I'm still waiting for my turbocharged 1 series hatch...or turbo diesel!!

[EchoOfSilence]

I really wouldn't talk shit about bmw.

I've been in a modified E46 M3 and it's changed my outlook on life hahahaha.
it's a ridiculous car, and it makes me want to get one. e30 for now, e46 for later ;)

[lucky7]

I really wouldn't talk shit about bmw.

I've been in a modified E46 M3 and it's changed my outlook on life hahahaha.
it's a ridiculous car, and it makes me want to get one. e30 for now, e46 for later ;)

:stupid: . my first car was an E30. i loved it more than anything. then i had an E32 750. big V12 torque was fun on the highway. there is such hatred for BMW ive noticed. i think its just because people havnt experienced them fully. i was a porter at a bmw dealership when i was 16/17. i had some fun times behind the wheels of some E36/E46 M's, even an E39 M5 once. a few of those M coupes/roadsters also. they're ALL a blast. a FUCKING blast.

[EchoOfSilence]

word. I think i'd trade my car in for an e30 m3 if i had more money for maintenance. that'd be fun as FUCK

[kouki_s14]

4wd and twin turbos, would be a nice daily

[blackflag_Rms13]

It's love or hate for BMW's newer styling and I for one despise it. From a non-cosmetic standpoint it sounds lika a sweet car!

[KA24DESOneThree]

My first car was an e30 325i. My brother drives an E36 M3. My ex-girlfriend drove an E46 330Ci Sport and now drives an E36 323iC. Her mom drives an E39 528i. My best friend has an e34 M5. My old best friend's mom had an M Roadster and an E46 330Ci. An old friend of mine had a 2.5L e30 M3. I've test-driven an E46 M3. A good friend of mine has an e30 325iS.

I've had a lot of exposure to BMW, and the 3-series stopped with the e30, just as the 5-series stopped with the E39. These new cars are catering too much to the modern moneyed idiot.

Unless BMW brings out a lighter, less understeery car, they will never have a customer in me.

[TurDz]

BMW are a bunch of crazy performance & efficiency lunatics...that's going to be a crazy car...especially for just a 3-series.

They had to factor in everyday drivablity with it too.

OptionZero, I've heard the new IS and G series from Lexus handle and feel damn well, power & steering-wise.

[Slam]

Wonder if they're targeting the up and coming GT-R?

I highly doubt it, GT-R is in a totally different segment & price point...

I believe...

BMW has to do this to stay competitive (in the HP dept) with high powered coupes such as the G35 that cost 5k less comparably equipped feature wise. Of course with BMW, you pay for the prestige of that badge and other things they do well, such as suspension tuning(sporty, but comfortable), steering feel, brake feel, performance oriented/non-intrusive ESC tuning..etc

Even though BMW has the M3, this car is too much for most consumers. Especially the price and most consumers simply cannot drive their cars hard enough to fork down the extra 10k? for the M.

Next M3 might be closer to GT-R territory, BMW is stickin a V8 in from what I heard.

[jessfx]

Nice, but make mine 3.5 in a Lexus IS w/306 na bhp and Toyota reliability.


word. if something breaks in the bmw, i don't wanna pay 432432432 dollars just to fix it -_-

i've been in an M3... the same one that Echo was in (but i was in it first). anyhow, it was a fast car. i LOVED riding in it. i mean, i'm down to get an M3, but i'm a poor motherfucker and i'm wondering how long it would take for me to cop one.


.... toyota/lexus ftw for cost and efficiency.

(please, roo. kill me now.)

[TheWolf]

Enjoy.. in bmw's history this is always true about innovation... The first direct injected twin turbo bmw engine > bubonic plague

try this on for weight 300hp. 300ftlbs at 1500rpm.. great low end... twin turbo direct injection 0-60 in 5.5
The 328i with no turbos and extra crap comes in at 6.5 and is $6000 cheaper... WTF!
In terms of power output and 0-60 times to show how much this thing weighs.. I'd be pissed for my twin turbo direct injected super vanos'd 3L inline 6 $45,000 ultimate driving machine bmw to get beat off the line by um... a honda accord v6 NA with it's simple iVtec. cause yeah it would be a close race.

not that I'm bashing bmw but they just don't get the HP thing.. and those cars have been on the supersize me diet for almost 10 years. Last years 330 sedan had 255hp and was about half a tick slower 0-60.. adding all that shit onto it to get an extra 45 Hp isn't exactly moving forward...

FYI.. I've had an e36 and e46... and even a '69 2002ti Alpina and out of all of them the 2002 would beat them all given a dry track and a sunny day.. just feels like sometimes over 40 years they've only improved on leather seats and marketing..

[*NismoS13*]

Looks and performance, plus it's a BMW. Can't really go wrong with it in my opinion...

[TheSquidd]

Pig. Screw all the new Bimmers, the 3 series spirit died with the advent of the E36. They just get heavier and more expensive.

I dunno, as an owner of both an e30, and then an E36. I can tell you the spirit was actually quite strong with the E36, I found it to be more of a true "driver's car" than the e30. Now that we have an E46, yes, it's a fat, luxurious car, but it's fast as shit and handles pretty damn well for a car pushing close to 4k on the scales.

I'm sure some of the engineers at BMW are trying desperately to keep the name from just being a Mercedes Benz clone. You can still kinda feel that BMW spirit in some of the new cars.

[TougeRacing]

drive any bmw, even the old ones. they are damn responsive, but back on topic i love the hard side pinch line.

[Neejay]

Nice, but make mine 3.5 in a Lexus IS w/306 na bhp and Toyota reliability.
Word.

You'd definitely have to have the money to back up this M3...which is what a lot of people fail to understand...

Car is nice and all, but since its unrealistic to own one, this isn't a bid deal to me :(

[ZK]

BMW are a bunch of crazy performance & efficiency lunatics...that's going to be a crazy car...especially for just a 3-series.

They had to factor in everyday drivablity with it too.

OptionZero, I've heard the new IS and G series from Lexus handle and feel damn well, power & steering-wise.

BMW is ok... if you've driven the E46 M3 you'd know how it feels. It is rather soft and not particularly responsive. The car is just big and heavy and it feels like it. On paper it looks great and the car is not bad but it definitely is more oriented towards luxury than sport. That's a good thing as that's the market they try to appeal to. But if you're a pure performance guy, it leaves a lot to be desired. Now, something like a M3 CSL - now that's a sports car. The reliability problems with the cars as they age + the high cost of maintenance is not something you want to deal with once the warranty expires.

Have you guys heard of it?? Twin-Turbo inline 6 300hp!! And looks WAY better than the 2006 3 series, especially in the rear. Check it out www.bmwusa.com its on the front page, does anyone know what this car will be priced at?? I would mind getting one next year, I was starting to look into a new car, 20-40(max)k out the door

The starting price on the 335i is 42K. I'd expect it to cost well over 50K after options. Then add tax...

[Paul2x]

I like it.

lol..this might just be the next RB ;)

[trsilvias13]

I cannot imagine the cost if one of those motor broke in any way. If a turbo went out. I think it would be greatly cheaper to opt for a custom single t3/t4 setup than to fix it at the BMW stealership.

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

twin turbo, inline six and still only 300hp? call me a nub but isnt that a little... low? especially for such a heavy car?

[Neejay]

twin turbo, inline six and still only 300hp? call me a nub but isnt that a little... low? especially for such a heavy car?
That's what I was thinking too...

Especially for whatever the MSRP will be (assuming its gonna be ass expensive)

[EchoOfSilence]

BMW is ok... if you've driven the E46 M3 you'd know how it feels. It is rather soft and not particularly responsive. The car is just big and heavy and it feels like it. On paper it looks great and the car is not bad but it definitely is more oriented towards luxury than sport.
I guess they respond to modifications on a crazy scale, as the E46M3 SMG i was in blew my socks off, and it wasn't exactly stock.

and the current motor makes 330hp IIRC so I'm assuming their reported numbers are underestimated, in addition to having a broad torque curve or an emissions monster rigged up. :cry:


anyway, I'd still kill for an e30 M3 (fuck 2002's :keke: )

[Paul2x]

twin turbo, inline six and still only 300hp? call me a nub but isnt that a little... low? especially for such a heavy car?

Well RB26's = 276hp out of the box. And skylines are no light weights...

300 hp is nice :bigok:


Just like anything, after a little massaging it will be just right :naughty:

[TheWolf]

e30 m3's are slow :keke:


modded 2002's rule.

[EchoOfSilence]

Well RB26's = 276hp out of the box. And skylines are no light weights...

300 hp is nice :bigok:

they made more than that

e30 m3's are slow :keke:


modded 2002's rule.
oh hell no hahahaha

I'd take a 510 over a 2002 any day of the week.
and e30 m3's are dead sex and handle well. what was it? 200hp N/A? oh man.

[TheWolf]

192hp in a 2.3L in 2733lbs of "dead sex"... but my 2002 has 50hp more and weighs 800lbs less :) You are right though.. 2002's stock suck. 510's are just as slow admit it.

btw FYI for this thread. The 1988 E30 M3 did a 0-60 in the same speed as a new 335is with twin turbos and direct injection... hardly a steal at 45k.

[ZK]

btw FYI for this thread. The 1988 E30 M3 did a 0-60 in the same speed as a new 335is with twin turbos and direct injection... hardly a steal at 45k.

Yeah .. but now you can do it in full luxury. :keke:

This car is not made to be a all out performance car - that's the role of the new 400hp M3 coming out. They wanted to make a car with the power delivery and response of a V8 with less weight and less gas consumption. That's why they stuck with small turbos so it is more responsive and less laggy.

I guess they respond to modifications on a crazy scale, as the E46M3 SMG i was in blew my socks off, and it wasn't exactly stock.

Not really.. the M3 doesn't respond to mods well unless you add a supercharger or turbo - the stock engine is pretty tuned out. Also, it is a very expensive car to modify and track. This is probably why there are a lot of ex-M3 owners on the Evo forums these days.

[lucky7]

This car is not made to be a all out performance car - that's the role of the new 400hp M3 coming out. They wanted to make a car with the power delivery and response of a V8 with less weight and less gas consumption. That's why they stuck with small turbos so it is more responsive and less laggy.


right. people seem to be hung up on the turbo thing. like because it has turbos, especially 2 of them, it will be the next supra or RX7. thats not the case at all. there top dog is the M3, theres no getting around that. simply put, it won't be produced to step on the toes of the M3. although, ive said it before. i see BIG things for the aftermarket of this car.

[nistech]

Word.

You'd definitely have to have the money to back up this M3...which is what a lot of people fail to understand...

Car is nice and all, but since its unrealistic to own one, this isn't a bid deal to me :(

its not a m3...

just wait till someone like AA (active autowerks) gets ahold of it. i predict this thing being an aftermarket monster. you will see.

hell, most people dont realise that people are making over 400hp on a stock turbo E36 M3. those things seem to handle the boost VERY well. there is/was a guy on bimmerforums with a 500+ whp M coupe. stock engine + headgasket and studs. this will be a milestone i think.


I agree this will be a aftermarket monster
but how can u say that e36 m3 handles boost VERY well LMAO. ok maybe e36 m3 handles boost better then the e46 m3 but still it doesnt handle boost well at all there are people out there who have turboed them and been lucky or they rebuild the engine and lower the compression. e36 and e46 m3s are maxed out. u cant tell me that u can slap on a turbo on a m3 and it will be reliable as a engine which was built for a turbo. because thats what u mean when u say it handles boost VERY well.
but anyways i think there are a lot of bmw owners with money out there and they will spend a lot of money = a lot of hp this might actually be the next 2jzgte. hopefully it could put out 1000hp :naughty:

[rrobe99999]

I like the new body style. Anyone notice the "ZX" on the liscence tag? I don't think that's a coincidence.

[Neejay]

its not a m3...
Ah, so the 3-Series in general will have at least these specs?

hmm...

[m072514]

i think "turbo" is often misassociated with pure sports cars. lets not forget that almost every SAAB model has a turbo. cummings diesel trucks have turbos. they are power adders, and like anything else, can be tuned for economy or power. the car looks ok... seems like a natural progression towards more weight & luxury. cant wait for the E90 M3 CSL though... mmmmm!

btw, the Z32 made 300hp out of its twin turbo 6-cylinder way back in 1989. it also did a 0-60 mph in 5.5 seconds. not bad for almost 20 years ago...

[lucky7]

its not a m3...




I agree this will be a aftermarket monster
but how can u say that e36 m3 handles boost VERY well LMAO. ok maybe e36 m3 handles boost better then the e46 m3 but still it doesnt handle boost well at all there are people out there who have turboed them and been lucky or they rebuild the engine and lower the compression. e36 and e46 m3s are maxed out. u cant tell me that u can slap on a turbo on a m3 and it will be reliable as a engine which was built for a turbo. because thats what u mean when u say it handles boost VERY well.
but anyways i think there are a lot of bmw owners with money out there and they will spend a lot of money = a lot of hp this might actually be the next 2jzgte. hopefully it could put out 1000hp :naughty:


no. it handles boost VERY well. S50/S52/S54 motors seem to love boost.

better start reading:
http://bimmerforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=150

EDIT: would you feel better if i used the word 'responds' in place of 'handles'? as in, they respond to boost VERY well? reguardless, they do both quite impressively.

[lucky7]

M3's 'maxed out'? :keke:

[nistech]

no. it handles boost VERY well. S50/S52/S54 motors seem to love boost.

better start reading:
http://bimmerforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=150

EDIT: would you feel better if i used the word 'responds' in place of 'handles'? as in, they respond to boost VERY well? reguardless, they do both quite impressively.

as for reading, my dad had a e46 m3 and i was all over e46fanatics.com
trust me i know that people have turboed m3s but there is no way it handles boost well on stock internals high compression and yes maxed out. yah it would make more sense if u used responds instead cause its like me when i fuck my girl jully i pound on her for a short time i respond very well to her pussy and then i bust a nut in 5 mins as in m3 would trow a rod or something in about 10kmiles.

Ah, so the 3-Series in general will have at least these specs?

hmm...

u kidding right :goyou:

[alexchanman]

remember this isnt made to replace the m3, its only there to back it up as the second sports car of their lineup. it wont have the horsepower that we all want it to have just cause m3 is their flagship sports car. WEAKsAUCE!!!!

btw, i hear the 2007 m3 is gonn have a v10 in it now, not the v8 anymore.

[lucky7]

i think you heard incorrectly. it will have a V8. M5 + M6 have V10.



im still sticking to my story. S50/52/54 engines have forged bottom ends from the factory IIRC. they are more durable then you would think. i still dont seem to know what is meant by 'maxed out'. but whatever. really not that important.

[Fibercus]

2008 M3 V8 412 HP

335i is highly under rated. multiple dynos proven Horsepower @ wheels: 275 & Torque @ wheels: 299

13.6 1/4 @ 104Mph. Stock boost is 8.+ psi.

Keeps up with e46 m3 no problem.

[m072514]

dude... the thread is over 5 months old...

[Fibercus]

so is the info, just updating it.

you dont HAVE to click on it *shrug*

[S14zenkiQ's]

It sounds like a good car, but it doesnt look good IMO. I'll stick with my E39 528i.

[SiI40sx]

is bmw going to have a stock b/c on these cars? if so that would be mad dope

[240's"r"us]

ive already heard bad things about it like this guy just got and only had 4~~ miles on it and sommthing like turbo seals or somthin went out .
but once like the 08 comes out im sure all the little prob. will be taken care of.
my mom has an white 06 325i with 330i sport wheels and it looks sharp but its not as quick as here old e46 330

[wootwoot]

Nistech, that motor is not a high horsepower motor. give it up.

[P4rD0nM3]

Nice looking honda. HEHEHE JUST JOKING! I LUVS BIMMERS! Hehehe. E36 ftw.

[bboyt3nsk]

I think the higher the price is on this thing the more likely itll be bought by rich suburban families just for a grocery getter and with that, a 40 year old mom with 3 kids will car if its twin turbo or not.

Now dont get me wrong I know theres hardcore BMW fans out there and it will have its share of sports driving.

[meteorite_flo]

reffering to turdz post. dude i'd pick a bmw over a toyota/lexus ANYDAY. both my older bro's drives one. a smg m3, and a 5-series. see if i drove a lexus, i'd feel cool and all, but when stepping out of both my brothers car....there's a difference! haha

[Dutchmalmiss]

maan...it's all about the current IS350. they look so good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kwick Silver SF]

you gotta drive an M6.....totally the ultimate driving machine, well not ULTIMATE but its pretty fun to drive....sf BMW has a black on black MSRP $102,000.00 with a mark up of $60,000.00 grand total of 162,000.00.......not worth my money, but for damm sure fun to drive!

[k2fender]

Looks hot

http://www.bmwusa.com/nr/rdonlyres/051b18c2-cb78-4489-8f56-cc0fd9bf474a/0/new3coupe_overview_img.jpg

That car is sexy.

[wootwoot]

When will Lexus/Infiniti start offering an equivalent AMG/M line of cars???? What the heck allready?