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S14Kouki228
04-15-2006, 11:15 AM
I have a few questions.I have to build a NA Ka Cuz I have a baby on the way so I dont have the finances to build or buy a turbo motor.So i have to set a slow pace by doing some bolt ons....But for a Na I figure Cai/Headers/Exhaust clutch n flywheel and cams.Is basically all u can do for Na 240 right.Is there anything else.and do you guys kno where there is anysites for Ka Na parts..Ohh by the way my friend says nissan's arent quick when u Na them that If i want an all motor car to build a honda vtec? is this true? will I keep up in a Na 240 thanks and sorry forry for the stupidity

SlappieBooBoo
04-15-2006, 11:28 AM
searrcchhh
there is a whole FAQ on this

neverlift
04-15-2006, 11:32 AM
I better get rep back for this shizzle
you need to tell us what your goals are(drift,drag,autox,dd,)
to answer the is this all I can do NO internals port polish valves,it depends on what you want
if you just want a drift car weld diff coilovers,basic bolt ons,
all the time I have now but good luck

aznpoopy
04-15-2006, 11:40 AM
you can also do ITBs
DIY port and polishing
high compression pistons

once you seriously get into it, you're going to need fuel management too. quick is relative. but a n/a ka24de isn't going to be particularly fast for the money. forced induction is more cost effective.

smithers584
04-15-2006, 11:42 AM
the only way i think you will really get any type of power from a NA motor like this is to raise the compression. i think bolt ons with NA are really a waste of time, you really wont see too much power gains from them. now rebuild the motor with a new head and higher compression, change the cams valve springs and rocker arm stoppers, then you can look into cai, exhaust, headers. very very simple, the more air/fuel you put in and the faster you get it out the more power you make. thus, you would also want to upgrade your fuel system and intake manifold. theres lots behind it, one bolt on really isnt worth it without all the others. if you are having a baby, why not keep it stock for now and save until tax returns next year, then you should have more then enough to do everything you want. until then, i would just do things like braking and suspension so you will have a well rounded car if you decided to turbo later.

BigVinnie
04-15-2006, 11:52 AM
So i have to set a slow pace by doing some bolt ons....But for a Na I figure Cai/Headers/Exhaust clutch n flywheel and cams.Is basically all u can do for Na 240 right.

Why don't you start with higher Compression Pistons, and an ecu tune before anything else. It will magnify the power output for every other bolt on that you apply. I mean if you compare it to a set of what it cost to purchase and install some Jim Wolfe Technology cams it is well worth the investment.
Many people have noted that for the price that JWT sells there cams for there could of been other options made in modifications that are more cost effective in making HP. I believe that without an ecu tune the JWT cams are supposedly the best on the market and without an ecu tune they only make on average about 10HP to the wheels.

SpeedMonkeyInc
04-15-2006, 12:06 PM
My brothers S14 had intake/headers/exhaust and it was a fun car. Open up the breathing of the KA and it does just fine. I really don't think you need to go with some crazy N/A build, it will end up costing lots of money all the same.
Your friend is somewhat right about Nissans being slow N/A. But so are Hondas, so whats the big deal?

s13coupedude
04-15-2006, 12:16 PM
Not to mention a 240 sounds sooo much better than any Honda i've ever heard. I have just an ebay muffler and a high flow cat and it actually sounds good. I can't stand hearing the farting noise that i've heard every civic make.

S14Kouki228
04-15-2006, 01:44 PM
thanks alot guys u helped alot.U all made some very great points.It is more cost effective for forced induction.so I think ima do suspension and brakes and next tax time buy a turbo kit.Thats a great Idea.Im only planning on pushing around 12 psi at the most maybe 8-10..I want it to be a reliable car..And my planns are drift....With a lil bit of drag here and there.thanks to all of you

DRFT_S13
04-15-2006, 02:45 PM
Not to mention a 240 sounds sooo much better than any Honda i've ever heard. I have just an ebay muffler and a high flow cat and it actually sounds good. I can't stand hearing the farting noise that i've heard every civic make.

all B-serie dohc vtec engine have nice sound!!!
and the K-serie are a killer engine in a civic chassi!!!
what about 9000rpm sounding??? its so crazy man!!!!:2f2f:

smithers584
04-15-2006, 02:51 PM
glad to help, you will get some killer tax returns for having the kid.

BigVinnie
04-15-2006, 05:50 PM
glad to help, you will get some killer tax returns for having the kid.

Isn't it something like an automatic $3000 a child?

S14Kouki228
04-16-2006, 03:57 PM
dude if its 3,000 k a child ima fgucking have like 4 of em and buy a rb26 lol

BigVinnie
04-16-2006, 04:00 PM
dude if its 3,000 k a child ima fgucking have like 4 of em and buy a rb26 lol

Yeah but the average american parent spends on average 1/4million dollars on 1 child before he/she reaches the age of 18. That $3000 is chump change.

mjjstang
04-16-2006, 05:01 PM
so each year a typical parent spends 66 thousand dollars on a child. I dont think so. my parents didnt spend a combined 132 thousand a year on me wehn i was younger,

at any rate, your right kids are expensive as hell and anyone who thinks that they tax returns outweigh the cost of a kid is an idiot and you better want a kid for more reasons than money.

BigVinnie
04-16-2006, 05:32 PM
so each year a typical parent spends 66 thousand dollars on a child. I dont think so. my parents didnt spend a combined 132 thousand a year on me wehn i was younger,


OOps my bad on average it is about a 1/4 of a million and they say that those cost of living specs are still to small, they say it could be more. I'll edit my last post.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CollegeandFamily/Raisekids/P37245.asp

smithers584
04-16-2006, 06:20 PM
well i know my buddy just had a kid and he got like 4000 total, when i got 1200 haha. we are both in the military and same rank all that, just to give you an idea.

OptionZero
04-16-2006, 07:08 PM
thanks alot guys u helped alot.U all made some very great points.It is more cost effective for forced induction.

You fail.

Read the NA KA FAQ and see how much work it takes to get even close to 200rwhp, then read the KA-T to see how much cheaper it is.

NA = expensive way to make less power

save all that money you're going to waste and put it into a fund to pay for your kid's education.

smithers584
04-16-2006, 09:09 PM
You fail.

Read the NA KA FAQ and see how much work it takes to get even close to 200rwhp, then read the KA-T to see how much cheaper it is.

NA = expensive way to make less power

save all that money you're going to waste and put it into a fund to pay for your kid's education.

how did he fail? he said that it is more cost effective to go forced induction, which is the same thing you are saying.

EchoOfSilence
04-16-2006, 09:40 PM
You fail.

Read the NA KA FAQ and see how much work it takes to get even close to 200rwhp, then read the KA-T to see how much cheaper it is.

NA = expensive way to make less power

save all that money you're going to waste and put it into a fund to pay for your kid's education.
Yeah, i think you misread

OptionZero
04-16-2006, 10:01 PM
bah it was a dumb idea to begin with thinking "i'll go n/a cuz of my kid"