Attn KA-T Owners

[S13CRAVE]

to all you owners of KA-T's...
-what turbo kit have you used on your car?(how much? where?)
-what kind of power/torque do you have?
-how much work did it take?
-what other recommendations do you have for other parts, etc.

thanks, just trying to get some sort of idea what i would be spending on a KA-T setup.

-Ian

[gh6o6]

ill jump into this topic with:' how much do you think the greddy kit will cost and when will it come out?

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S13CRAVE @ June 01 2002,6:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just trying to get some sort of idea what i would be spending on a KA-T setup.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
tons of time or money..... usually a ton of both.

it'll all depend on what you want. &nbsp;i'm building up my own kit for a low boost project, boostedS14 built up his whole engine to handle a shizzit load of boost. &nbsp;really, the performance you'll see will be relative to how much work and money you put in.

[boosteds14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it'll all depend on what you want. &nbsp;i'm building up my own kit for a low boost project, boostedS14 built up his whole engine to handle a shizzit load of boost. &nbsp;really, the performance you'll see will be relative to how much work and money you put in.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

hell ya, i am going to the dyno in two weeks
i predict between 400-450rwhp at 24psi

if i feel lucky, i may just bump the boost up to 27psi
but i definitly need to smoke up quite alot to not think twice (just kidding)

[AceInHole]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ June 02 2002,12:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it'll all depend on what you want. i'm building up my own kit for a low boost project, boostedS14 built up his whole engine to handle a shizzit load of boost. really, the performance you'll see will be relative to how much work and money you put in.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

hell ya, i am going to the dyno in two weeks
i predict between 400-450rwhp at 24psi

if i feel lucky, i may just bump the boost up to 27psi
but i definitly need to smoke up quite alot to not think twice (just kidding)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
just remember to send all T04E turbines and 370cc injectors to AceInHole <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[S13CRAVE]

boosteds-i remember a lil while back you were racing vipers and shit(damn boy). &nbsp;what do you have set up on your car? &nbsp;was it some sort of kit or did you piece it together? &nbsp;also, what do you run in the quarter?
btw-from the pics i've seen, your car is phat

aceinhole-what are you putting on your car? &nbsp;what do you expect to run boost and hp-wise? &nbsp;good luck on your project, i'm just starting to consider this as a route rather than having to import some engine from japan.

i've heard of F-max but are theirs any good? &nbsp;who else makes kits? &nbsp;what kind of numbers are people running with these? &nbsp;
Are RevHard manifolds all custom made to fit what ever size turbo you ask it to fit or does it come in certain sizes? &nbsp;
Considering i wont be driving this as a full time car until next summer, it will a be an ongoing project until then so time doesnt matter too much. &nbsp;Money does however. &nbsp;What is the best way to spend my money(in your opinions)? &nbsp;Should it be spent mainly on a good turbo kit with a little on internals to start or the other way around? &nbsp;Also, who makes good turbos for mid-high power numbers? &nbsp;Sorry for the long post but i am new to the KA-T idea and just want some input. Thanx to all who respond

[uuninja]

Ok gotta step in here. As a KA-T owner I can say that cheap and KA-T are not in the same zip code. You can go Ghetto on a KA-T but you will get what you pay for. You can buy an off of the shelf F-Max kit but an sr would be less expensive. If you are very experienced with fabrication and want to DIY from scratch more power to you, there is no doubt that it can be done, but it is not an easy job for a first timer.

But be aware of what you are getting in to. It is not a simple car to turbo. I have installed my share of greddy turbo kits on civics, I can tell you right now installing my Fmax kit was not easy. I bought it used, so I didn't pay all that much, about 2500 total. But like I say you get what you pay for. The kit was meant for a 95 and I have a 97, it was not a direct fit, there were pieces missing that I had to fabricate, I had to order a new ecu, I didn't know at the time that they were not the same. I am still having problems, exhaust leaks, 2 leaky oil pans, a misfiring cylinder, due to a leaky injector. Did I learn a lot? Yes. But I would do it differently if I had it to do over again.

As far as getting internal work done, there really is no "light internal work" the basic parts to build the bottom end, rods, pistons and rings will cost you about $1000. That is before labor, which will probably be 600 to 1000 more. I don't know what your level of experience, but I know I don't have the tools, space or know how to correctly build a motor in my garage. Now if I had 2 of the 3 it would be on <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>.

I don't want to speak for Boosted, but I know he spent a good bit more than the 2500 for a built motor. And it was profesionaly built. So again understand that you do get what you pay for, if you want to race vipers you will need ot be willing to fork out cash.

Seriously sit down and plan this out before you make any commitments. I am not saying don't do it. Just don't bite off more than you can chew. I know I did in some respects. There are a lot of little things that are easy to over look with a KA-T. Like say.....a clutch. Just ask Lance, Hippo or CrazyCuban <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

My 91 is going to be get an SR for 3 reasons, more miles on the KA, it will probably be close to 125k by then. After working on an SR swap, that for me is less of a headache in the long run. And reaching my desired HP 260whp for the SR will be cheaper than a 260whp KA.

Right now I would estimate having spent a total of a little over 3000 dollars on my kit. I haven't dynoed the car yet, but I will once I get all the little things fixed. But I don't see it making more than 230 at the wheels on 7 psi.

Let me know if you have any questions.

-Matt

[boosteds14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">boosteds-i remember a lil while back you were racing vipers and shit(damn boy). &nbsp;what do you have set up on your car? &nbsp;was it some sort of kit or did you piece it together? &nbsp;also, what do you run in the quarter?
btw-from the pics i've seen, your car is phat</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

ok, the viper thing. i never raced him. he hasnt spoken to me since he never showed to the track. we both lost interest in racing each other. i have an f-max kit stage 3 w/ 72lbs injectors.
so far i ran a 12.3 in the quarter on street tires with 22psi(if i remember correctly) i have slicks and a bigger turbo now and should be in the 11's soon after some time on the dyno.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't want to speak for Boosted, but I know he spent a good bit more than the 2500 for a built motor. And it was profesionaly built. So again understand that you do get what you pay for, if you want to race vipers you will need ot be willing to fork out cash.
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ok to clear &nbsp;up some things, i spent about 5k on the the turbo shit and another &nbsp;5k on the motor, after bending all the valves on the first crank because the key on the cam broke and didnt spin. as for who built it, PRUVEN PERFORMANCE only did the machine &nbsp;work like (boring, o-ringing and port and polish) as for the assemble, i did everything myself. even the assemble of the head and the bottom end. i needed to save as much money as possible. if it wasnt for the incident with the intake cam, i would have spent 3500 on the motor itself.

and yes i would do it again. i actually am.
i got another KA in the garage with 180k miles on it and i already am tearing it apart and putting oem head internals with cheap custom pistons and that is it and putting it into my 95 for a cheap turbo setup. this project will take me atleast a year because i need money but hey, u only live once

[uuninja]

Hum Boosted, I got the impression that you had spent a lot more. But still 10K is a sizeable investment. Well hey props on building the motor your self, I am thinking that might be more time and effort than I want to spend. Like I said I have no quarrels about doing stuff DIY and I have a spare KA from crazycuban's swap sitting in my garrage, I am just not sure if I can give it my best with the space and tools I have at my disposal. Especially with my frustrations with the turbo install. Those are suppose to be easy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>. One fact I want to reitterate is that I bought most of the kit used, from a guy that over boosted his motor. I did check every thign out and as a whole every thign is in good shape. But it is the little things like a leaky injector and some blown gaskets that I have to deal with because it is used. I think that a lot of those little problems would have been avoided had, I bought every thing new and complete. Food for thought.

[boosteds14]

Uuninja- i would have to say, not to put you down, but in my opinion the turbo kit was the easiest thing to install. the one thing the drives me crazy is electrical. i cant stand doin that. problably the hardest thing to do on my car was the boost controller, gauges and turbo timer

jeff

[rotaryknight]

uuninja- &nbsp;I think that turbo and cheap should not be in the same sentance. &nbsp;No matter which way you go SR or KA-T to do it right you will have to spend time and money.

Fuel control, boost control, monitoring devices..etc all that stuff adds up pretty quick.

[S13CRAVE]

just to clarify, i know that this will not be cheap at all and i am prepared to save my pennies to get the thing going. &nbsp;i just want to get a good, somewhat high hp engine to woop up on all the hondas in my area who think they are hot shit. &nbsp;i dont want to race vipers, lol, as i young kid i would shit my pants with that much power, lol. &nbsp;but anyway, i was hoping for between 250-300 hp at the wheels. &nbsp;who else makes turbo kits for the KA and where can i look at them to do research and hopefully i wont have to ask so many questions next time around. &nbsp;Thanks again.

[uuninja]

Hey ah Booted I think you misunderstood what I said, turbo kits are in general pretty easy to in stall. However in my case I think I have a bunch of little problems due to the fact that the kit was used and incomplete. Anyway's no offence taken.

Rotary, That was exactly my point, you get what you pay for. I tried to get a deal, and ended up screwing my self. Sure I will get the car to run right, but I will have put in twice as much effort as the next guy. Chasing down the little stuff.