kei office vs. silkroad

[koukispec]

any1 got any reviews on the 2 coilover systems? also a comparison? i no silkroads r a lot cheaper than kei office, but has any1 had first hand experience of both? i am in the market for coilovers right now and im not too tight with the money thats goin to be spent, also any1 else have any opinions of any other coilovers? btw these r going on a 1997 240sx, i already did a search and couldnt find any good write ups or anything about these 2 brands, thanx for the input

[usdm180sx]

Kei Office coilovers aren't available anymore. What was Kei Office is now known as DG5 in Japan.

[koukispec]

im probably gonna get the kei office used, thanks for the head up though, any other input?

[!Zar!]

What are you going to do when time comes for rebuild?

If the coils can't be serviced, then they sound useless imo.

[ericb382]

Kei Office coilovers aren't available anymore. What was Kei Office is now known as DG5 in Japan.
Does that make it any harder to get them rebuilt than it already was, or will DG5 recognise Kei Office and rebuild them?

[DJPimpFlex]

^even if they do its still a pita to send your shit out to japan to have it rebuilt. KTS's are great for the money. Ive driven on silkroads, and the name says it all, its like driving on silk roads. There not dampened as agressively as the KTS's. Both are compareable and very good.

[koukispec]

o i forgot to mention that the car is gonna be used for a daily driver and some track use, mostly drifting, i no that tein HE's r good enough for the job, but i guess i just wanna get something different than wat most people get

[supportTHEezln]

There's a ton of places to get coilovers rebuilt locally for faster and cheaper then sending them to the manufacturer.

[FaLKoN240]

If I was gonna get some coilovers for daily driving, they would not be some fancy pants hard to rebuild coils for sure awe factor.

If you want to be different, get like. . .a crazy paint job or something.

I would get something that I can have minimal downtime on when a rebuild comes.

[koukispec]

uh....so any1 got any input on the 2 brands? heh :mepoke: or any other brands? ^ also its not only for daily driving, track and drift use also thanks

[punxva]

one word, search, there are tons of threads that were made by people like u who want a DD and a weekend warrior, just look for coilovers, in the search field and im sure you'll find more than enough information to satisfy your itch

[fatalfury64]

I have Apex N1s and they're alrite. Megan makes them for Apex i believe. Megan is a lot cheaper than the Apex N1 if you're not looking for name wise.

[Irukandji]

I've ridden on Kei office XR's and I was pretty impressed. The ride was very smooth and dampening worked well. Very little body roll and smooth ride. I can't say much more because I wasn't the one driving.

I know a few people on the boards have Kei Office coilovers.. maybe they can chime in.

[drift freaq]

I have Apex N1s and they're alrite. Megan makes them for Apex i believe. Megan is a lot cheaper than the Apex N1 if you're not looking for name wise.

YOu have N1 EXV's they are a lot different than Apex N1's as in pro's. Plus your valving is different than the Megans. On top of that Megan does not make Megan they market them. Megan's are made in a factory in Taiwan that sells to lots of different people.

[kensreliableb18b]

I have Apex N1s and they're alrite. Megan makes them for Apex i believe. Megan is a lot cheaper than the Apex N1 if you're not looking for name wise.

yuck, megans and apex are NOT the same.

[Dousan_PG]

I have Apex N1s and they're alrite. Megan makes them for Apex i believe. Megan is a lot cheaper than the Apex N1 if you're not looking for name wise.


dont spread myths and rumours
they arent the same.

[OptionZero]

dude, you fail.

Apexi' coilover breakdown
N1 Pro = the pimp shit
N1 Type V = variant of the pimp shit
World Sport = american market crap
N1 ExV = entry level, NOT MADE BY MEGAN

Search for the megan and exV threads and educate yourself

[drift freaq]

dude, you fail.

Apexi' coilover breakdown
N1 Pro = the pimp shit
N1 Type V = variant of the pimp shit
World Sport = american market crap
N1 ExV = entry level, NOT MADE BY MEGAN

Search for the megan and exV threads and educate yourself
yo Option , they discontinued the World Sports. N1ExV is its replacement.

[OptionZero]

they're still around on ebay sometimes, left overstock cuz they sucked so bad i guess

n1 line is revamped too now: N1 circuit, drift, and street...NONE MADE BY MEGAN, fury

[Ricks15]

Was the main reason why the Kei office coils are no longer made was because of the fact they would break very easily??

[axiomatik]

I just got silkroads. Nicely damped, firm without being harsh. No experience with Kei Office, though. For rebuilding, I'd have to send it to japan, but from what I hear, they are pretty fast.

[koukispec]

Was the main reason why the Kei office coils are no longer made was because of the fact they would break very easily??

yes i would like to know this also, does any1 know the reason y kei office decided to stop production and change their name?

[koukispec]

also i kinda like something wit a high spring rate, i think silkroads r 8/7? anything above that, mayb like 10/8? i hate body roll heh

[EBRAKEFANATIC]

Here are some specs on the Silroads'

*8-way adjustable
*Pyro-Ball upper mounts
*Spring rates:
S14 - 8.0/7.0kg
S13 - 8.0/6.0kg
RS13/RPS13 - 8.0/7.0kg
*Adj. front Pillow Ball
*Rigid aluminium rear mount
*Inverted monotube dampers

I just installed them and they are great. I had sportline springs but coilovers and deffinetely better. I have a s14 so, the 8/7 is sometimes a little harsh for daily driving but handling improvements are amazing. I sacrifice comfort for control. Very worth the $$$

[snatch13]

also i kinda like something wit a high spring rate, i think silkroads r 8/7? anything above that, mayb like 10/8? i hate body roll heh

If you are going to be daily driving this car, you aren't going to want to drive on anything stiffer than 8/7 or 9/7. You are going to have to sacrifice in certain areas if you are building a car that is going to be streetable and run on the track.

[andy31144]

also i kinda like something wit a high spring rate, i think silkroads r 8/7? anything above that, mayb like 10/8? i hate body roll heh
I'm pretty sure you can get Silkroads with custom spring rates if that's really what you want.

[koukispec]

ok 1 more question, kind of a newb question though, was wondering if i get the custom spring rate of lets say 10/8kg, would the suspension be really stiff, or could i adjust it so that it would feel like 8/7? im just getting it so that i have that 10/8 option available incase i need it for tracks, in other words on the specs, wen it says 10/8kg that just means thats the springs limit right? it can be adjusted from 3/1kg - 10/8kg? correct me if im wrong, btw thanks for all the input people, im leaning towards the silkroads since there is also a group buy for it.

[DavidC]

i been running on my kei office xr for maybe 1.5 -2 years and they are great...plenty of events, daily, and canyon.

[lilredstiffy]

ok 1 more question, kind of a newb question though, was wondering if i get the custom spring rate of lets say 10/8kg, would the suspension be really stiff, or could i adjust it so that it would feel like 8/7? im just getting it so that i have that 10/8 option available incase i need it for tracks, in other words on the specs, wen it says 10/8kg that just means thats the springs limit right? it can be adjusted from 3/1kg - 10/8kg? correct me if im wrong, btw thanks for all the input people, im leaning towards the silkroads since there is also a group buy for it.

The only way to adjust spring rate is to physically change the springs.

[Pank]

ok 1 more question, kind of a newb question though, was wondering if i get the custom spring rate of lets say 10/8kg, would the suspension be really stiff, or could i adjust it so that it would feel like 8/7? im just getting it so that i have that 10/8 option available incase i need it for tracks, in other words on the specs, wen it says 10/8kg that just means thats the springs limit right? it can be adjusted from 3/1kg - 10/8kg? correct me if im wrong, btw thanks for all the input people, im leaning towards the silkroads since there is also a group buy for it.

you can adjust the dampening of the shocks, not the spring rates

[axiomatik]

If you really want stiffer spring rates, consider Tanabe Sevens, they're spring rate is 10/8. They probably won't be much more expensive than a set of silkroads with custom spring rates. However, for daily driving, I would think twice about that high of a spring rate. Just upgrading to coilovers will greatly reduce body roll, and if afterwards you still think there is too much roll, get larger sway bars, which will allow you to reduce roll without hurting ride comfort. As mentioned above, spring rate cannot be changed without swapping out the springs for a different set. Coilovers are damping adjustable.

[redsuns3838]

silk road has springs available on their website and thru any dealer. while u probably cant get different springs ON the coilovers, theyre like 100 a spring i believe and even with that the price comes out to about the same as DG5s. doesnt it?

well put nbrindley, 10/8 spring rate is very rough. your better off keeping the 8/7 that comes on the silk roads and going towards other chassis bracing mods if your concerend about body roll.

just curious have you riden / driven any cars with a 8 /7 spring rate or anything similar? if you havent 8/7 is probly great for the time being.
Ive had silk roads for about a year now and I love them. on my S14 btw. and there is still body roll with my 8/7 but i feel like id be better off getting larger sway bars. well anything in the rear sinc ei HAVE no sway bar , damn base models

[CaoBoY]

anyone know where to rebuild Kei Offices since they are apparantly shutting down? or should i just find a motorcycle shop that'll rebuild them when i need it.

[koukispec]

silk road has springs available on their website and thru any dealer. while u probably cant get different springs ON the coilovers, theyre like 100 a spring i believe and even with that the price comes out to about the same as DG5s. doesnt it?

well put nbrindley, 10/8 spring rate is very rough. your better off keeping the 8/7 that comes on the silk roads and going towards other chassis bracing mods if your concerend about body roll.

just curious have you riden / driven any cars with a 8 /7 spring rate or anything similar? if you havent 8/7 is probly great for the time being.
Ive had silk roads for about a year now and I love them. on my S14 btw. and there is still body roll with my 8/7 but i feel like id be better off getting larger sway bars. well anything in the rear sinc ei HAVE no sway bar , damn base models

heh as a matter of fact yes i have driven and owned a car with apexi n1 pro coilovers, it was on my old car which was a 1997 240sx, highly modified, but i recently got into an accident with it, and i just picked up another 97 240 not too long ago, so im just trying something different right now, so any1 got any input on anything comparible to the apexi n1 pro's? how does the silkroads hold up against the n1's? again thanks for all the input

[koukispec]

o also btw i forgot to mention that i already have whiteline sway bars on the car f/r already

[koukispec]

any1???? :o :o

[phreze]

Doesn't Swift springs make custom springs for every major jdm car? I know they are working on custom springs for a new line of kei office coil-overs but have heard about there spring being put in diff manf coil-overs

[sideview_180sx]

Doesn't Swift springs make custom springs for every major jdm car? I know they are working on custom springs for a new line of kei office coil-overs but have heard about there spring being put in diff manf coil-overs

Swift makes springs for all types of dampers that use a typical coilover design. all you have to do is be smart enough to figure out the length and diameter of the spring. So it can sit on the perch. BTW 10/8 isn't that stiff. BHs car is awesome sauce sex on the beach.

Spring rate is nothing is the valving isn't done rite. You could have an 8/6 combo and have it valved so it feels stiffer then a 10/8 combo.

The more you know, the better you can make a justified purchase.

Apex'i N1 Pros FTW (the real shit)

Kei Office's sucked ass, my friend had the XT-a model. they blew out and were leaking its juices only after 6 months. silkroads are good, just an average coilover, same as Section stuff.

[yudalicious]

ok 1 more question, kind of a newb question though, was wondering if i get the custom spring rate of lets say 10/8kg, would the suspension be really stiff, or could i adjust it so that it would feel like 8/7? im just getting it so that i have that 10/8 option available incase i need it for tracks, in other words on the specs, wen it says 10/8kg that just means thats the springs limit right? it can be adjusted from 3/1kg - 10/8kg? correct me if im wrong, btw thanks for all the input people, im leaning towards the silkroads since there is also a group buy for it.

this thread is useless, you shouldn't be looking at coilovers because you seem to lack basic suspension knowledge. I find it hard to believe that you do track days and you drift yet you have no grasp of very basic knowledge.

Here's some real advice, go do an autocross or trackday or two, do more research about suspension, understand how things work, then come back and ask more relevant and educated questions.

edit: I see you've already owned Apex'i N1s, to which I ask again, why would you even spend money to buy something you obviously don't understand and can't use properly anyway? Oh god, this makes me feel like I'm on honda-tech.

[koukispec]

this thread is useless, you shouldn't be looking at coilovers because you seem to lack basic suspension knowledge. I find it hard to believe that you do track days and you drift yet you have no grasp of very basic knowledge.

Here's some real advice, go do an autocross or trackday or two, do more research about suspension, understand how things work, then come back and ask more relevant and educated questions.

edit: I see you've already owned Apex'i N1s, to which I ask again, why would you even spend money to buy something you obviously don't understand and can't use properly anyway? Oh god, this makes me feel like I'm on honda-tech.

hmm wats with the hate? anyways ^^thanks for the input above, im probably gonna order the silkroads today, again thanks

[PoorMans180SX]

However, for daily driving, I would think twice about that high of a spring rate. Just upgrading to coilovers will greatly reduce body roll, and if afterwards you still think there is too much roll, get larger sway bars, which will allow you to reduce roll without hurting ride comfort. As mentioned above, spring rate cannot be changed without swapping out the springs for a different set. Coilovers are damping adjustable.

+1 for this^^

[yudalicious]

hmm wats with the hate? anyways ^^thanks for the input above, im probably gonna order the silkroads today, again thanks

I'm not hating, but it just seems to me if someone can't even seem to grasp basic knowledge about suspension and/or don't care to do so, they probably won't be the ones putting these fancy suspension to work. I believe the suspension is what the driver makes of it, that's just my 2 cents.