Concept Drawings

[xtheenderx]

I'm on spring break and i got bored so i drew a few concept cars. please comment!! i'm open to both positive and negative critics so comment freely. as long as its not irrelevant :wiggle: SUV - concept for Lexus RX series, i call it the NX700. the bottom left is a concept for Pontiac (obviously) the GTO-20, and the top 2 are concepts for Jaguar (havent thought up a name for it yet). BTW my scanner sux

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/xxScRyEdxx/concept1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/xxScRyEdxx/concept2.jpg
For those of you that are wondering wth the arrow is pointing to. Its the little character Dampachi that is commonly seen on some tein logos http://www.mohdparts.com/tein/tein_goods/dampachi_iron_on_emblem.jpg


EVERYONE SHARE YOUR DRAWINGS OR SKETCHES!!!

As for the rules:

Absolutely no flaming
Positive Critiques Only
Must be YOUR OWN
Nothing offensive (ie race, gender, sexuality etc)
No Pornographically related or nude pics - keep it PG
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[Maeda]

Oh boy.

Whats up with the not super clean lines?

Perspective on your ellipses are all tweaked. Time to get some elipse guides.

Your form language for the jaguar concepts doesnt say anything jaguar anything.
Go look at the 60s XKE's and racecars.

I can't wait for dorito_slut to see this.

[xtheenderx]

they're just sketches i did with a pen lol ^_^"

[Dousan_PG]

hes kinda specific because he's an art student..and a damn good one
and his roommate, dorifto_pg hand draws shit for his trans design and it lookks..amazing..

some of lindsay's old work (not hand drawn, computer shit after it was hand drawn??)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Pink_GodziRa/CameraPics12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Pink_GodziRa/TVR-ARMANI3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Pink_GodziRa/TVR-ARMANI2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Pink_GodziRa/subarusketch5render-2copy.jpg

im sure lindsay can post some of his hand stuff, and give some advice..

[Maeda]

Yah he'll get all bonered about this topic!!

I draw naked people not cars sadly.

How many show lindsays awesome cars threads exist now? 3?
I guess it's good they get to look at "pro" work.

EDIT: I forgot the encouraging part of my ranting.

Keep up the drawing there's promise here. :D Just gotta do more homework.

[xtheenderx]

thx guys for the comments. i'm sure there are a ton of great artists in this forum most of which are like 10x better than me:bowdown: which is actually a motivation for me to get better. who knows maybe i'll start a comic about drifting, that isnt exaggerated like InitialD. any1 wanna be my main character? lol:p oh yeah! forgot to mention do u guys attend Pasadena Art Center? if you do, do u guys have any advice as far as portfolio wise? i've attended a few Sat high classes but i'm sure thats not enough.

[Maeda]

Don't get me started on comics. That's actually something I do.

:)

[Maeda]

i'm sure there are a ton of great artists in this forum most of which are like 10x better than me:bowdown:

Nope just me and dorito. Heh.

Bring it. I know there are people hiding out.

[exitspeed]

Don't get me started on comics. That's actually something I do.

:)


Have any examples of your work. Im someone into drawing comics too.:cool: I'm just now learing how to do cars (much harder then the human form).

[Yuri]

Here's some of my crappy doodles, maybe they'll give some inspiration..
But yeah, buy some ellipse guides, and try to nail your lines with one stroke. Work on perspective too. After that, you'll start to see your work shaping up.:)

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/vettewall2.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/wallsketches.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/vetternder.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/vettemoney.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/hachifront.jpg

[xtheenderx]

holy crap u guys are great! i noticed that most of these drawings have a certain flow and i've been trying to try and copy that sort of movement but its really hard to take it and apply it to my designs. :P

[Advan]

Nope just me and dorito. Heh.

Bring it. I know there are people hiding out.

Hey Buddy, thems is fighting words....except, you two take the car drawings to a whole new level. Wouldn't mind making one for Peugeot or Opel. What tips can you give on sketching out cars for a particular company? For example, GM, Mazda, Nissan, etc.... I've always wanted to do it, but always was a tad bit sketchy on what I wanted to do.

Edit: Or better yet, what tips can you give overall.

[Andrew Bohan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/xxScRyEdxx/concept2.jpg

what's tien?

[ThatGuy]

^ Isn't that a character from DragonBall or something? :keke:

[Maeda]

Sadly I don't draw car's at all really.

I really don't think any of my work has any place on zilvia as i'd probably get too many comments about 'hey my 8 year old can do that' or how come it doesn't look like a photo.

So i'll just be talking big for now. I'll post some stuff when my show is done and ready.

The best advice I can give about drawing cars, or anything for that matter is steal. Steal everything you can. Never just borrow ideas you see around you. Straight up take them and make them yours.

Pull lines don't push.

Impactred: Those are some sweet models. :D You going to school for trans or industrial design? ACCD?

[exitspeed]

Sadly I don't draw car's at all really.

I really don't think any of my work has any place on zilvia as i'd probably get too many comments about 'hey my 8 year old can do that' or how come it doesn't look like a photo.

So i'll just be talking big for now. I'll post some stuff when my show is done and ready.

The best advice I can give about drawing cars, or anything for that matter is steal. Steal everything you can. Never just borrow ideas you see around you. Straight up take them and make them yours.

Pull lines don't push.

Impactred: Those are some sweet models. :D You going to school for trans or industrial design? ACCD?

Good advise.

I taught myslef how to draw comic book character's when i was young by tracing the doubles of my comic book cards.

I've been trying to do the same with cars.

[SochBAT]

Now the thing with tracing is, to me, is the fact you aren't really using your adapting/freehanding skills. You're just dragging. I've learned to just look at what you're drawing, and rarely glance at your work. The only time i'd glance is when i need pencil/pen placement.

And, to really stay on topic/threadjack, i like to throw out concepts of Marvel characters that i think need revamping, like Thor, capt America, hawkeye, and those guys. And charactures are becoming more and more dope.

Current Major Art/Marketing.

[ThatGuy]

And, to really stay on topic/threadjack, i like to throw out concepts of Marvel characters that i think need revamping, like Thor, capt America, hawkeye, and those guys. And charactures are becoming more and more dope.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of those. :wavey:

[SochBAT]

The main problem i've got with my drawings are that most come out to 'bright', even when i aim for a darker styling. It sucks balls. Imagine Medieval-esque Thor, weilding his mighty Mjollnir, with a smile on his face. EVERYONE, POST CONCEPTS!

PS, can anyone recommend any good anatomy books? cuz i still suck at that.

[NemeGuero]

I draw, but I'm not posting.. 'cuz I'm no comparison. Free hand stuff.. sketches..

That other stuff looks bomb diggety giggety.

[exitspeed]

Now the thing with tracing is, to me, is the fact you aren't really using your adapting/freehanding skills. You're just dragging. I've learned to just look at what you're drawing, and rarely glance at your work. The only time i'd glance is when i need pencil/pen placement.

And, to really stay on topic/threadjack, i like to throw out concepts of Marvel characters that i think need revamping, like Thor, capt America, hawkeye, and those guys. And charactures are becoming more and more dope.

Current Major Art/Marketing.


I use this technique to teach myself. I don't do that anymore when i draw organic objects. LIke I said, I'm trying to teach myself how to draw cars and because they are so exacting with proportions and angles and whatnot it's difficult for me. It's not like drawing a human form.

[SochBAT]

Very true. Lets all get in the ZilviaChat and share concepts!!!

PS. Anyone else notice Neme's avatar/sig change? I don't like it. Change it back. Neggg rep.

[NemeGuero]

LOL!! What's wrong with it? I did like my old avatar better.. but the old sig was kinda big.

[xtheenderx]

hahaha i like the idea! i'll just change this thread to SHARE YOUR ART PIECES!!! Everyone post up their art pieces whether it may be comic books, storyboards, concept designs, etc as long as its PG and doesnt coincide with the rules and guidelines. ie - overly detailed human figures that are nude.

[Maeda]

ie - overly detailed human figures that are nude.

I'm out then. :sadwavey:

[Advan]

lol, you're kidding right

[xtheenderx]

lol, you're kidding right

lol nope. hey man that one guy made a thread about his lunch so this should be just as interesting. plus i like to gather "inspiration" from other ppl's work:naughty: jk

[Yuri]

Impactred: Those are some sweet models. :D You going to school for trans or industrial design? ACCD?

I graduated from Trans at CCS two years ago. Thanks for the props. :)

[SochBAT]

Wow, i may seem like a nerd, but i've been out of the comic circulation for quite some time.

Spiderman has a new metal-skin suit?!?!
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/2/24/Amazing_spidey_.jpg/442px-Amazing_spidey_.jpg
Up-and-coming stories/concepts like these make my pants wet.

[Advan]

Alright alright, let's see some works, no matter how sorry they are. I was going to show an Illustrator piece I had to do for my Advanced Imaging class, but I can't find the final piece that I did. Currently, I'm in the middle of Illsutrating a friends picture, that was taken at a party.

[blu808]

Wow. Interesting concept cars.

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

hahaha i like the idea! i'll just change this thread to SHARE YOUR ART PIECES!!! Everyone post up their art pieces whether it may be comic books, storyboards, concept designs, etc as long as its PG and doesnt coincide with the rules and guidelines. ie - overly detailed human figures that are nude.

So you want us to break the rules then?


You mean as long as they DO coincide with the rules?

[exitspeed]

I'll dry to find some of my old stuff later...

[DoriftoSlut]

Here are some current ones... Ugh... some of those that Dousan posted were from 2 years ago! Shiiiiit. The Lotus was recent (4 months ago) but everything else ws pretty old.

These next 2 are due... Thurs. Got 2 more to do for that final. Here's the deal... I love old late 60s/early 70s show cars from Italy. Like te Bertone Alfa Romeo Carabo, Ferrari Modulo, Maserati boomerang, Alfa Romeo Iguana Lotus Esprit, etc.


So using those as inspiration, i did this Maserati Taglio project. Its a huge car, slightly bigger than an S class, but smaller than a Maybach.

Full luxury, zero emissions (electric) and no noise. Power is from generator in traditional trunk area and the car is powered by all 4 wheels with in-wheel electric motors. Main storage space is now under the glass that woudl be the "traditional" hood. The steep rake is justified by the lack of engine up front, which would normaly prohibit a low hood.


Blah blah blah. Here are the renderings. I'll post some other random sketches and renderings i have as i go through them tonight.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Pink_GodziRa/MasersidefinalLINZHOTTNESScopy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Pink_GodziRa/Maserfrontfinal.jpg

[Advan]

You seriously gave me an idea about Maserati. I'm going to try to "draw" the biturbo, and update it.

[blu808]

That looks like a mid 70's concept car that i see every few years at the montery historic races, concors italiaono,

[DoriftoSlut]

1968 Bertone Carabo (for Alfa Romeo).

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/2287-2.jpg

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/2287-3.jpg



1970 Ferrari Modulo. by Pinninfarina

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/153-1.jpg

This car was the main inspiration for the Pinninfarina Maserati Birdcage 75th done last year. You think that car is rad... now you see the Modulo and will go "OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH."


Here's the Birdcage 75th:

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/2227-1.jpg






How they both open...


http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/153-4.jpg

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/2227-11.jpg






"OOOOHHHHHHHH." LOL IMHO :)

[DoriftoSlut]

BTW, i think the Birdcage 75th is radiCAL. Its a nice design that has been inspired by the glory days of concept cars and applies it contemporarly and with awesome technology. Plus it looks dead sexy bitch.


This is what I tried to capture in my Taglio. Inspired by the ridiculous, but applied somewhat believably. i could have said it was a hovercraft that rolled around on spheres and made it looks ultra-future but... WTF fun is that, that's cheating IMHO. It is SO much more challenging to do a crazy wild design that can actually be built within reason. I mean sure, that Taglio may be a $200,00 car or something, but its not out of the question. The windshield and hood were originally gonna be at the same angle (well the initial sketches) but once on package... thee is no fricken way in cold hell to get away with that. Its like... look, my driver can only see the refracting sun through the windshield. It does 2 things: "WOW that's cool looking and fresh." but then 5 minutes later: "Wait a tick, that is an impossibility. it is not physically possible."

That's cheating to me. A cool design that would NEVER work... i'm not talking oh every car needs to have x at point y for the rest of z amount of years. no, but somehing that looks feasible at some point of time, is more impressive that a cartoon, ya know. [/rant].

[blu808]

ive seen all those cars in person.


In fact. this pic here was shot at pebble beach concorse in montery. i was there woot. but then again i have been there every year since i was 2/


http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/153-4.jpg

[DoriftoSlut]

Yep.. That Modulo is the Jam, except i really hate the rear fenders. They are too round and way too big. The rear wheels are huge. Its the only thing that kills it for me on that car...

[Andrew Bohan]

get that last one luke. weld the diff, put some coilovers on it, take it out to altamont. :wackit:

[blu808]

Well i was a huge fan of Pinninfarina when i was growing up. My dad allways used to talk about his lines, and designs. My dad grew up as a car designer at gm. 66-74 then went to ford. He invented the cowl induction hood, and designed the feder lines, and flares on the late 60's vettes, and camaros. In addition to other stuff. Anyways. i was a big fan until i noticed that Pinninfarina didnt addapt to his day. most designers will take a project, then evolve it, then take feedback, and make changes from there. Pinninfarina just does the same lines, and ideas as he allways has done. i have lost alot of respect for him and other designers over the years that think their own designs are so awsome that there will never be anything better, and they never change.

Improvment is all about change, and learning.

[DoriftoSlut]

Pinninfarina is now a company. And yeah, they do mostly the same style stuff and don't stray too far. But to their credit, it's admirable to say the least that they are not conforming. Its kinda like. "Here, we rocked for so long, we have a good name. Now like it or die."

Amidst the lacklustre and mediocre product they've churnned for Ferrari recently (snoozetown) Pinninfarina has some of the most gorgeous designs in the history of transportation to their credit. And they still push the envelope every now and then, just to stir things up.


Oh, and their pay is dog piss. They figure once you work there for basically nothing, barely affording rent while designing $1,000,000 Ferraris for a couple years, you can go to any other firm in the world and get hired way high up, b/c you have Pinninfarina on your resume. kinda sucks, but at the same time... SO RAD.

[blu808]

Like i said. He is stuck in the 70's. Pay, design, buisness, etc.

I dont care for his current designs, but his early ones were classics.

I do dissagree on your point that they stirr things up. They have never done anything as a true new technology concept since 1984 with whatever ferrari concept that was that no one liked.

Not trying to hate, he is a contributing factor that all cars are like they are today.

[blu808]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Hard Gay again.

[DoriftoSlut]

Luke... talking about stuff like the Nido.


From Car Design News:
The Nido is a study by Pininfarina that focuses on the issue of occupant and pedestrian safety in a small car. It introduces a new idea of an energy dissipating honeycomb section sandwiched between a rigid passenger cell and a strong monocoque exterior body, where the passenger cell slides forward and progressively crushes the deformable section in the event of a major frontal impact. This is a solution to the problem of engineering a bodyshell soft enough to deform in a collision yet strong enough to resist passenger cell intrusion in a collision with a larger vehicle, a more common problem as SUVs proliferate.

As well a unique functional design concept, the aesthetic design of Nido is probably the most distinctive and advanced at the show and an impressive realisation of several emergent automotive design themes previously only evident in the best student design work. SL

[DoriftoSlut]

http://automobile.2405.com/automobile_gallery/Pininfarina/Nido_2004/4_Pininfarina_Nido_Chassis_2405.jpg

http://automobile.2405.com/automobile_gallery/Pininfarina/Nido_2004/2_Pininfarina_Nido_Chassis_2405.jpg

http://automobile.2405.com/automobile_gallery/Pininfarina/Nido_2004/3_Pininfarina_Nido_Chassis_2405.jpg

http://automobile.2405.com/automobile_gallery/Pininfarina/Nido_2004/0_Pininfarina_Nido_Chassis_2405.jpg

Pretty cool IMO. i think you have to understand most of their mainstream bread-and-butter clients wants typical traditional Pininfarina (like Ferrari). But every once and a while they show nice breadth of design from the Nido to the Birdcage 75th... completely different ends of the spectrum, and both Show-stoppers and beautiful cars. As long as they keep turning those out, who gives a fuck about that shit that brings in the money (big clients). heh.

[drift freaq]

That Nido is a pretty cool looking little concept.

[ThatGuy]

DoriftoSlut, I think somebody else saw your Lotus Concept. :loco:
Reminded me of it anyway. Here's the info. :bow:
http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-2006-Laboratorio-BEBI-Quercianella.htm

[DoriftoSlut]

Haha Barry.. nah, that thing is a rip-off of Lamborghini-mixed-with basic student design work (the very plain surfaces and un-interesting detail.

But it looks like it would kick ass and take names. But shit... 220,000 EU? fuck. That's a god damn lot of money. Just for the sake of argument... Imagine what an extra $170,000 could do to a $50,000 Elise?

But i mean yea... with some real design that Laboratorio BEBI thing would be for serious...