APEXi NOIR Muffler. Super Stealth

[S14DB]

Anyone see this thing? Looks like a nice stealth upgrade.
http://www.apexi-usa.com/product_exhaust_detail.asp?id=259&pageNum=1

[ThatGuy]

Doesn't look too stealth. How many of the cars listed come with Black tipped exhausts stock? I think a Black canister with chrome tips is more stealthy (like mine). I wouldn't mind hearing it though. True stealthy exhaust should be quiet (not like mine :rofl:).

[Ritz S14]

Looks like a Fujitsubo.

[SoSideways]

This might be cheaper (http://www.mazworxracesupply.com/product_3_inch_vibrant_flat_black_muffler.htm).

[S14DB]

That's just a Muffler. This is a catback system.
Doesn't look too stealth. How many of the cars listed come with Black tipped exhausts stock? I think a Black canister with chrome tips is more stealthy (like mine). I wouldn't mind hearing it though. True stealthy exhaust should be quiet (not like mine :rofl:).
My Camry came with a black muffler with black tip stock.

[ThatGuy]

My Camry came with a black muffler with black tip stock.

I rest my case. A sporty car with an all black muffler is un-natural. A Camry is not a sporty car. :p

[S14DB]

I rest my case. A sporty car with an all black muffler is un-natural. A Camry is not a sporty car. :p
Hence why it is stealth.

You could drive a tank between your tips.

[ThatGuy]

You could drive a tank between your tips.

What's your point?
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2511/tips1nj.jpg

:rofl: I have actually considered making a trim piece to go between the tips, like the Corvettes have. :bowrofl:

[atom]

I don't think it's that stealth. The fact that it is black can't hide the huge ass exhaust outlet on it.

[Phlip]

This might be cheaper (http://www.mazworxracesupply.com/product_3_inch_vibrant_flat_black_muffler.htm).
This one definitely is, $79.99 from summit, and hell, you can get tips dirt cheap:
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/flo-953045_w.jpg
or you could swing a little less for a muffler that is silver and then grab a $6.00 can of flat black and do it yourself.

[S14DB]

I don't think it's that stealth. The fact that it is black can't hide the huge ass exhaust outlet on it.
You seen the tip on an IS300? That's a big honkin stock tip.

[lucky7]

i like it.

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[vanish1]

You want sleeper? Try this on for size

http://store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsports/cisps13dtcan.html

[drift freaq]

You want sleeper? Try this on for size

http://store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsports/cisps13dtcan.html

ahem that is one expensive exhaust that does not look quite stock. hahahhha
Here's the deal folks, you want stealth and bone stock looking with high flow? One muffler name Magnaflow! part #12198 3 inch inlet to dual 2.5 outlets. Satin stainless steel. Which means unpolished stainless steel. Paint it black, put on a pair of tips . Looks bone stock. That with a custom 3 inch exhaust using mandrel bends. total max costs $250-350 depending on the particular high performance muffler shop you go to. Lots of them do it.
My new setup is going to be that muffler connected up to a 3.5 inch mandrel bent ST May exhaust that came off a clip. Total costs to me $250 max with purchase of the muffler and the exhaust.

[jdm538]

if it is still loud, wouldnt it be useless being black?

[EchoOfSilence]

ahem that is one expensive exhaust that does not look quite stock. hahahhha
Here's the deal folks, you want stealth and bone stock looking with high flow? One muffler name Magnaflow! part #12198 3 inch inlet to dual 2.5 outlets. Satin stainless steel. Which means unpolished stainless steel. Paint it black, put on a pair of tips . Looks bone stock. That with a custom 3 inch exhaust using mandrel bends. total max costs $250-350 depending on the particular high performance muffler shop you go to. Lots of them do it.
My new setup is going to be that muffler connected up to a 3.5 inch mandrel bent ST May exhaust that came off a clip. Total costs to me $250 max with purchase of the muffler and the exhaust.
Is that why you didn't call me this week/weekend? :squintd:

and 3.5in? what the hell? won't you have to have that dumbed down to 3in anyway?

[TurDz]

IMO the Apexi WS on an N/A engine sounds VERY nice and super smooth, not loud at all (at least on the VQ30DE).

This is a good change for Apexi, since most people who are interested in the World Sport want something that sounds nice, but doesn't attract attention, audibly or visibly.

I like the exhuast, and like someone mentioned above, it looks just like an IS300 exhaust, which is one of my favorite designs.

[MaddHatter91]

ahem that is one expensive exhaust that does not look quite stock. hahahhha
Here's the deal folks, you want stealth and bone stock looking with high flow? One muffler name Magnaflow! part #12198 3 inch inlet to dual 2.5 outlets. Satin stainless steel. Which means unpolished stainless steel. Paint it black, put on a pair of tips . Looks bone stock. That with a custom 3 inch exhaust using mandrel bends. total max costs $250-350 depending on the particular high performance muffler shop you go to. Lots of them do it.
My new setup is going to be that muffler connected up to a 3.5 inch mandrel bent ST May exhaust that came off a clip. Total costs to me $250 max with purchase of the muffler and the exhaust.


take pics. i want to see how stealth it really is. i might have to try this.

[s13dan]

Trust DD is the way to go, stealth for people who dont know and smart people will understand what it is. Still not a very stealthy exhaust but i love the way DD looks...

[TheSquidd]

Trust DD is the way to go, stealth for people who dont know and smart people will understand what it is. Still not a very stealthy exhaust but i love the way DD looks...



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But DD is FULLY sick. Stealth though, wtf. ?

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[AllenRPS13]

look good tho, just like Fujitsubo. but what is the price?

[WilloW]

look good tho, just like Fujitsubo. but what is the price?

I remember a while back it was either Kakimoto or Fujitsubo that had an exhaust system that's black and had dual tip just like the stock 240sx exhaust, but with 80mm piping thought. As for the Apex'i NOIR, I think it's cool. I wonder how it would compare against the RSR EXMAG? I think the EXMAG has the best tone and look so far.

[Phlip]

Went and got my exhaust done this morning, I was interested in a black muffler, so I bought one from summit racing and flat-blacked it myself, then went and got it all done at this little shop in Burlington, NC, who was more than willing to help me out. I have compiled some photographs, they are in no particular order, meaning this is not the order in which I took them.

... I asked to have it sit far enough in to appear stockish:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1217/exhaust13vc.jpg
3" piping from (and including a new) cat back please ignore that my old muffler did a number on my bumper:
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/193/exhaust26uy.jpg
nice coating of 1200 degree hi-temp black before I took it to the shop, but welding kinda scuffed that a little:
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/3766/exhaust38hv.jpg
a pic to allow one to see it on the car from distance:
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/9920/exhaust41tx.jpg
snapped a couple while still on the lift:
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2055/exhaust54td.jpg
guy that did it, whose head you can see in the left corner here, went behind himself and went over the welds with hi-temp silver, apparently he cares what his work looks like:
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/176/exhaust61vy.jpg
I guesstimate the lowest point in the system to be about 4-5" inches off of the ground, but I have short arms and can't reach that far to measure:
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1269/exhaust76iy.jpg

[Neejay]

Went and got my exhaust done this morning, I was interested in a black muffler, so I bought one from summit racing and flat-blacked it myself, then went and got it all done at this little shop in Burlington, NC, who was more than willing to help me out. I have compiled some photographs, they are in no particular order, meaning this is not the order in which I took them.

... I asked to have it sit far enough in to appear stockish...
Niiiice. How much did it cost you? I've been debating on re-doing my exhaust...

[SpeedMonkeyInc]

That looks great. How does it sound? I like this stealth dual tip style that Phlip and ThatGuy have going on.

Me? I have a Trust DD. Not stealth. At all.

[Phlip]

Niiiice. How much did it cost you? I've been debating on re-doing my exhaust...
$37.95 for the first muffler, $51.88 for the rear one, $8.44 for the tips and $6.00 for a can of flat black paint.
... your local muffler shop can handle the cost of putting it all together for you.

That looks great. How does it sound? I like this stealth dual tip style that Phlip and ThatGuy have going on.

Me? I have a Trust DD. Not stealth. At all.
Barry and I have the same setup, basically, only thing different is the tips and the shops where we had them done, same mufflers and such... We'd been discussing it on IM for weeks.
It is as loud as one might expect a 3" system to be on an NA car, but the tone is very deep and quite pleasing, in my opinion.

[NemeGuero]

Yah man, the above might look sleeper on an IS300, but 240s didn't come with that kind of exhaust.

PHLIP and ThatGuy's mufflers are where its at if you want sleeper status on a 240.
I'm gonna bandwagon here soon and ditch my N1 for the same.

Echo, you want it back? Hehe

[i8yourfwd]

Damn... I love your exhausts Phillip and Barry O_O

[drift freaq]

Yah man, the above might look sleeper on an IS300, but 240s didn't come with that kind of exhaust.

PHLIP and ThatGuy's mufflers are where its at if you want sleeper status on a 240.
I'm gonna bandwagon here soon and ditch my N1 for the same.

Echo, you want it back? Hehe


exactly why I dumped my Buddy Club Spec II. I would have gone with custom piping on the new setup, if was not for the fact that I got the ST May 3.5 inch system that comes out in the stock location for $120. I am taking the stock single output muffler off the ST May and putting on a Magnaflow 3 inch 2.5 inch out dual tip MPE 12198. The tips on that muffler are the exact same width as the stock tips.
HKS used to make the dual dragger which was a dual pipe system that came out in the stock location and looked very stock.

[NemeGuero]

Pics of that muffler? Is it much different from the one PHLIP and ThatGuy bought?

Or link even?

[Maeda]

Apexi Noir < Black Spray Paint

If you use "high heat" spray paint (the kind that you need to bake to stick) on your exhaust it'll come out flat black. DO NOT BAKE IT. The best part is it wipes off with some elbow grease. Then all you need is an ECV and you have a super awesome SOCAL setup. :D
5$

[Neejay]

Apexi Noir < Black Spray Paint

If you use "high heat" spray paint (the kind that you need to bake to stick) on your exhaust it'll come out flat black. DO NOT BAKE IT. The best part is it wipes off with some elbow grease. Then all you need is an ECV and you have a super awesome SOCAL setup. :D
5$
I don't think that black paint will cover up my 3" tanabe muffler angled outward. :(

[drift freaq]

Pics of that muffler? Is it much different from the one PHLIP and ThatGuy bought?

Or link even?
ask and ye shall receive http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopexd.asp?zone=main&id=46414 inch
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopexd.asp?zone=main&id=471 18 inch
disregard the list price on their website

P.S. the dual outs are spaced closer together than the one Phillip and Thatguy bought. These Magnaflows are a little more expensive ($80 buy it at your local muffler shop or Summit) but in my book its worth the extra cash.
I know Magnaflows are really good mufflers and its a straight through design for high horsepower. Plus i have run the longer version of this muffler on a couple of cars already and was very pleased with the results both with a SR car and a RB car.

[NemeGuero]

What changes with the length? I mean, why have 2 lengths?
Thanks for the link.

[EchoOfSilence]

ask and ye shall receive http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopexd.asp?zone=main&id=46414 inch
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopexd.asp?zone=main&id=471 18 inch
disregard the list price on their website

P.S. the dual outs are spaced closer together than the one Phillip and Thatguy bought. These Magnaflows are a little more expensive ($80 buy it at your local muffler shop or Summit) but in my book its worth the extra cash.
I know Magnaflows are really good mufflers and its a straight through design for high horsepower. Plus i have run the longer version of this muffler on a couple of cars already and was very pleased with the results both with a SR car and a RB car.
Dave, some pictures of your setup would be nice pretty soon :hsdance:

[S14DB]

What changes with the length? I mean, why have 2 lengths?
Thanks for the link.
Longer Mufflers can handle a greater tone range. So, you want as long as a muffler as you can get. The wider(girth) a packed muffler(magnaflow) the greater the Pressure handling. More pressure the quieter it can make the exhaust.

[EchoOfSilence]

Longer Mufflers can handle a greater tone range. So, you want as long as a muffler as you can get. The wider(girth) a packed muffler(magnaflow) the greater the Pressure handling. More pressure the quieter it can make the exhaust.
that depends on the frequency of the exhaust pulses, and that depends on the motors. You can have a muffler be too wide and therefore make the sound loud again. It's something that tunes sound.

Anyway, i just wanted to add.

[drift freaq]

Longer Mufflers can handle a greater tone range. So, you want as long as a muffler as you can get. The wider(girth) a packed muffler(magnaflow) the greater the Pressure handling. More pressure the quieter it can make the exhaust.
In my case I am going with the 14 inch case one because its right around the same size as the muffler that came on the ST May catback.
On the other cars we have done it has been the 18 inch case. It will be interesting to note the difference. Of course on the customs there was no resonator and the ST May has a healthly resonator on it.

[NervGS]

Has anyone tried Apex's ATS (Active Tail Silencer)? Not that it has a stealth look (for those N1 canisters) but i've read it really quiets it down...


-glenn

[DJPimpFlex]

heres my stealthey street shit.....
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/DJPimpFlex/DSC00833.jpg

Jk. Heres a vid of how loud that shit is. RSR GT2...mmmmmm

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/DJPimpFlex/?action=view&current=MOV00702.flv

[Phlip]

ask and ye shall receive http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopexd.asp?zone=main&id=46414 inch
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopexd.asp?zone=main&id=471 18 inch
disregard the list price on their website

P.S. the dual outs are spaced closer together than the one Phillip and Thatguy bought. These Magnaflows are a little more expensive ($80 buy it at your local muffler shop or Summit) but in my book its worth the extra cash.
I know Magnaflows are really good mufflers and its a straight through design for high horsepower. Plus i have run the longer version of this muffler on a couple of cars already and was very pleased with the results both with a SR car and a RB car.
I had ORIGINALLY gotten the 18" from Summit, this one to be exact:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MPE%2D12288&N=0&autoview=sku
... and it was a little too long for what I wanted to do with it, so I had to send it back. I wound up going with a different muffler from them personally

[NemeGuero]

In my case I am going with the 14 inch case one because its right around the same size as the muffler that came on the ST May catback.
On the other cars we have done it has been the 18 inch case. It will be interesting to note the difference. Of course on the customs there was no resonator and the ST May has a healthly resonator on it.

Do you think the MagnaFlow will be quieter than the DynoMax?

[NemeGuero]

Or what about one of these?
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopdisplaycategories.asp?zone=main&id=303

decisions, decisions..

[EchoOfSilence]

^ Evan posted Magnaflow's 'XL Turbo' series.

It doesn't look straight-through, though. But hey, what do I know?

[SimpleS14]

Trust DD is the way to go, stealth for people who dont know and smart people will understand what it is. Still not a very stealthy exhaust but i love the way DD looks...

I like the way the Trust DD looks, even if its not stealth, but I hate that they stopped making them for the S14. :-/

I'm definately getting this new A'PEXi exhaust after its released.

[drift freaq]

Do you think the MagnaFlow will be quieter than the DynoMax?
In my opinion the Magnaflow is a better muffler than than the Dynomax. My experience with the Magnaflows has been very positive. As far as the XL series goes, they are a bit cheaper, but they are not a straight through design. I honestly would bet that it would not flow as well.
pic of 18 on a RB powered car I sold recently. Not mine. :D
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9976/02110616223ne.jpg

[EchoOfSilence]

hmmm, if that's how they hung it, it hangs pretty low and bigger than I thought it would be. Is that because the 18" is too long to properly fit in the space?

I like it.

[NemeGuero]

Looks pretty good. Would look a lil' more OEM with the tips.

[drift freaq]

hmmm, if that's how they hung it, it hangs pretty low and bigger than I thought it would be.

I like it though
well actually that was pre hangers so it actually tucked up more. I snapped the pic during the install to show the customer ahead of delivery. Yes add tips it would look very stock.

[Maeda]

I don't think that black paint will cover up my 3" tanabe muffler angled outward. :(

At night it will. :D

[WERDdabuilder]

sound clips plz =D

[Invalid Zero]

I'm going to give this one a try. Cops around here have been going nuts with "enlarged exhaust" tickets.

Last one at the bottom. Flat black.
http://www.vibrantperformance.com/products/catalog05/pg22-23.pdf

[S14DB]

I'm going to give this one a try. Cops around here have been going nuts with "enlarged exhaust" tickets.

Last one at the bottom. Flat black.
http://www.vibrantperformance.com/products/catalog05/pg22-23.pdf
I dunno. They make a lot of ricer parts.

[drift freaq]

I'm going to give this one a try. Cops around here have been going nuts with "enlarged exhaust" tickets.

Last one at the bottom. Flat black.
http://www.vibrantperformance.com/products/catalog05/pg22-23.pdf

Ya its flat black, but its still a single out which is definitely not stock looking. The reason Thatguy,Phillip and I have gone with the Mufflers we have, is because they are dual tip out. Now depending on the dual tip Muffler, it either looks extremely stock or very close to extremely stock. Single tips don't look stock, the cars never came with single tip.

[Phlip]

Ya its flat black, but its still a single out which is definitely not stock looking. The reason Thatguy,Phillip and I have gone with the Mufflers we have, is because they are dual tip out. Now depending on the dual tip Muffler, it either looks extremely stock or very close to extremely stock. Single tips don't look stock, the cars never came with single tip.
That is my final answer, thanks Dave

[richardxfeng]

Drift Freaq,

I was wondering how does your or your customer's set up with Magnaflow muffler sound? Is it loud?

[drift freaq]

Drift Freaq,

I was wondering how does your or your customer's set up with Magnaflow muffler sound? Is it loud?
its nice in my opinion, its not extremely loud. It is in fact no louder than a G35 or 350z running stock exhuast, to give you an example. My customer rolls on cops all the time and they do not even look at him. It has a low deep sporty sound. On my friends SR its not loud either. If you get on it its aggressive but not offensive or noisey.

[NemeGuero]

What size is the piping?

[drift freaq]

What size is the piping?
my piping is 3.5 because I am using the ST May catback minus the original muffler. Everyone elses is 3 inch.

[NemeGuero]

Do you get good deals on those mufflers? I'm sold now.. hehe

[richardxfeng]

Yeah, I am going to buy one also.

Drift Freaq, which muffler shop do you go? Please let me know.

Thanks!

[drift freaq]

Yeah, I am going to buy one also.

Drift Freaq, which muffler shop do you go? Please let me know.

Thanks!
there, are a number of places you get the muffler from average price is around $80 , I had the custom exhuast done at Speedway muffler out in Rowland Heights/Industry. Anyplace that sells mandrel bends though and has 3 inch piping can do it.

[crazy9ceguy]

how are the flow of those magnaflow compared with the apexi gt spec or n1? u got the 2.5 inch dual tip?

[~4N~]

http://www.apexi-usa.com/graphics/products/2591.jpg

Haha, there's a dent in the Apexi muffler.

[zeek]

so did you go with the 14" or the 18" one?