That Guy.

[blu808]

Hey barry.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=66909075


Hahahaha. Lets saying hi to barry.
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[!Zar!]

Wow, someone was bored. lol

[Muzzy]

lmao...he's a longed haird hippy...and he's old!!!! lol

obviously he is an X-marine lol

[blu808]

Well its not actually him. just funny.


Just like how var doesnt take showers anymore.

[Muzzy]

oh lol ok.

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[Andrew Bohan]

can i at least get a cigarette?

[blu808]

Sorry i dont smoke anymore.
Ask barry.

[ALTRNTV]

Damn Barry. You only have 48 friends. I'm going to add you, lol.

[ThatGuy]

Wow, just wow. No, that's not me. I am 10 years younger, with a freshly shaved head. Yes I am still very much a Marine, and will be until at least 2010. I prefer playing with explosives rather then fire. I am a Libra and Married. Oh, and I HATE MySpace.
My pic for reference.
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/7509/personal7vs.jpg

Luke, remind me to kick you in the nuts. :bowrofl:

[SilviaNinja240]

^^^
John Locke

[m072514]

yyyuuuuuttt!

[ranisron]

lol at this thread.

good laugh, so thank you Luke and Barry.

[theicecreamdan]

hahahahah !

[BEISSEN]

LOL,ThatGuy your a Marine hahaha "JarHead" just messing with ya.Im about done with the Army time to move on.Its pothetic lil babies cring and can't do nothing right.But more power to you,I have better things to do now.Where are you now?Im in the and of the Dust "There is no sand here" Iraq.

[ThatGuy]

I'm an Instructor in North Carolina. Teaching young and transitional Marines how to trouble-shoot and repair electronics/avionics on these.
http://www.tiltrotormech.com/images/personal_photos/Dash%20Two.jpg
http://www.tiltrotormech.com/images/personal_photos/DSCF0080_re.jpg
Been here since early '99. I keep missing out on deployments, and now as an Instructor I have at least 3 more years until I'll see any overseas time. Good because it keeps me near my family. (Wife and 2 daughters, soon to be 3 daughters) Bad because I feel I'm missing out on a big part of serving my country. At least I know I'm training the future of the Marine Corps. I spent the last 2.5 years of my career getting these aircraft approved for full production, now I'm training the people who will usher them into battle in the years to come.

[BEISSEN]

Well let me tell you this you are not missing nothing and the only thing the "Iraq" war is good for is Money its a opion of my own but hell Im allowed.Plus what the heck are those things?Im Aviation as well but not dont work on Aircraft im a office jock lol.Im a 15P in the Army which is a Flight Operation Specialist.But after 3.5 years im done cant take this job or the crappy units Im with all the time but I have been with the AH64D Im sure you know what that is AKA the Apache Longbow nothing secret so I dont worry.But Im was in Korea 2 years and now with the 1-101st Airborne "Expect No Mercy".Im here in iraq my Wife and a Daughter in the states,But family is important as well to me.But this deployment got me 98% out of debt wahooooooo.Thats why I am getting another 240SX or a 300ZX TT only cus my wife has the family car so we are good there.

[ThatGuy]

My aircraft is the MV-22B. It's a Bell-Boeing collaboration and it kicks ass. Combines the capablities of a Helicopter (Vertical/Short Take off, heavy lifting, hovering, land it alomost anywhere) with the speed and range of a Turbo-prop Airplane (270+ mph, and long range). Feel free to read more here-- http://www.tiltrotormech.com/tiltrotor_information.htm

Yes it does say 6,150 horsepower, and yes that's PER ENGINE.

[BEISSEN]

Holly $hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But that is a bad A$$ Bird/Plane Hybrid,Freak whatever you want to call it lol.Well THATGUY you got my respect 100% I just thought you were a younger guy behind a comp that was a pain but now I see its in the Blood lol.But this is a dumb question off topic completely but want to hear from a real Marine.What you think of JarHead the movie?I look at it and think to easy from what i can see but then again never been to Marine Boot either.

[ThatGuy]

I haven't seen it. LOL

[BEISSEN]

WOW! ok well check it out it was a ok movie.

[blu808]

Barry makes your airplanes take off. :wavey:

[kandyflip445]

I dunno if you call it the same thing but in the Navy it's called an Osprey. The USS San Antonio is the first ship designed to support it. Cool aircraft. The ship they're gonna be on looks nice as hell too. Especially for the Marines because they get more space for their gear. The thing I have says the V-22 can go 316mph maximum. Dunno though, never seen one in person.

[ThatGuy]

Yes we call it an Osprey as well. As far as a ship goes, they fit pretty well on this one. Could definitely use some more room though.
http://www.tiltrotormech.com/images/photo_of%20_the_week/untitled.jpg

[DJPimpFlex]

I was watching some show on the history channel about new age weapons and they had a small segment on those. They look extremely useful. Thanks for serving our country!

[ThatGuy]

Thanks DJ, I appreciate it. But hey, let's not get carried away with me here. I'm just the asshole Mod everyone loves to hate, remember. :D :rofl:

[Edgar]

Damn Barry you have a cool ass job. For some reason when I talked to you on the phone I tought you were like old lol

[mRclARK1]

Originally posted by: ThatGuy
I prefer playing with explosives rather then fire.

Doesn't everybody?

[TheTimanator]

Damn Barry you have a cool ass job.
agreed. I showed a our keyboard player the pics you posted. He told me the name and specs (and the problems they were having with them) after I showed him the first pic. His father was in the air force forever. Earlier this week we were in Dayton, OH and went checked out the Air Force museum there. Freaking Awesome!

[kognition]

Wow,
I never thought that Osprey would ever get certified with all those horrific test crashes and deaths. Over 50 fatalities in testing or something like that Barry?

Really is an amazing looking aircraft. I start my private pilot classes later this year. :2f2f:

[Advan]

Ahhh, so that explains the color of your car. So we have a Marine and someone from the Army here. I'm about to go into the Air Force, and hopefully if these poor excuse for a bunch of Liasons, let me do Avionics, then I'm going to try to do mechanics on Planes, or I might just end up going the helicopter main. apprentice. I'm also looking at the Propulsion Avionics, and the Missile and SPace Systems Maintenance Apprentice. I'm looking at these kind of jbs that can benefit me in the long run, and not do jobs like.....bomb control or kamakaze guinea pigs(made up). You understand wher eI'm going with this, right ThatGuy?

[blackflag_Rms13]

HOLY FUCK! You look exactly like my friend. No joke, you're like a clone...

[Muzzy]

i thought the osprey suked ballz??? because it kept having all kind of test and manuvering(sp?) problems.i know a few have crashed as a result of the malfunctions, have the finally corrected it after 7-8 yrs????

[BEISSEN]

Well Muzzy got to remember all Aircraft go through Test and Trials,But THATGUY as far as you being hated as a Mod I dont think you were naturaly that way lol it was beat into you at Boot hahahahaha.But those MV-22B IO want to see them fight a Apache lol that would be cool.

[Edgar]

Where are those Origin Spolilers :)

[BEISSEN]

Where are those Origin Spolilers :)

Ok what does Body Parts have to do with this lol hahahaha.:fawkd:

[ThatGuy]

Wow,
I never thought that Osprey would ever get certified with all those horrific test crashes and deaths. Over 50 fatalities in testing or something like that Barry?

Really is an amazing looking aircraft. I start my private pilot classes later this year. :2f2f:

A common misconception thanks to the media. We have only lost 4 aircraft. Unfortunately we lost some good people with a couple of those aircraft. But the numbers are nowhere near 50, and the Osprey isn't the troop killer that the media made us out to be. The media can't seem to report anything good about us without also mentioning, "This is the same Osprey that has killed 24 Marines since 2000." What they never mention is that we fly day in, day out, with no problems what-so-ever. I don't think we are doing too badly for a fairly new aircraft. To give an example, when the Marine Corps first started testing the AV-8B Harriers, they lost 19 aircraft in 19 MONTHS. The Osprey program has been dealing with funding issues, but has been in development since the 1980's. Four lost aircraft in 25 years is not a "troop killer" in my book. All the accidents have been since 1999 when the Marine Corps really started testing them. Honestly, if you can find an aircraft program with a better crash record, then I'd like to see it. Maybe NASA, since they only lost the Challenger and the Columbia, but then again they fly ALOT less then we do.

It's great that everyone has such an interest. Thanks guys.

"Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised."

-Marilyn Manson (Wow, he said something that made sense!)

..Origin spoilers?
One of them got shipped off to California to wait on a car to be rebuilt out there, and the other is sitting in my garage waiting for me to figure out how I want to mount it. Hahahaha!

[S14DB]

Wow,
I never thought that Osprey would ever get certified with all those horrific test crashes and deaths. Over 50 fatalities in testing or something like that Barry?
"
Really is an amazing looking aircraft. I start my private pilot classes later this year. :2f2f:
On April 8 2000 aircraft 04 crashed at a small airfield in Marana, AZ. 19 Marines lost their lives that day. The crash was determined to be the result of the aircraft entering a vortex ring state." VRS occurs when a rotary-wing aircraft inadvertently descends into its own vortexes or downwash. Any Rotorcraft can enter into this state and many have lost their lives from this.

"The program faced another setback in December of 2000 when aircraft 08 crashed in Jacksonville, NC killing 4 Marines. The cause of the crash was later determined to be the result of a simultaneous failure of hydraulics and software. The program was again grounded and a rigorous redesign was begun by Bell/Boeing. For the first time the engineers looked to the experience of the Marine maintainers for redesign considerations. The changes will be carried out in three phases. Block A, Block B and Block C.

In 2002 the V-22 program began an almost complete rebuild of two aircraft located at NAS Patuxent River. Led by a small group of the most experienced Marine maintainers the V-22 Integrated Test Team (ITT) successfully modified the aircraft and were vital to the successful return to flight on May 29, 2002."


The Osprey came about in the early 80's and got caught up in the post cold war anti-proliferation of the 90's. Anything that was thought to be specialty or single use was killed. A-10 came under heavy attack also. Most of the anti-Osprey data comes from when Dick Cheney was George H. W. Bush's defense secretary. He tried to kill it multiple times. being over turned every time by congress.

Another thing is how they developed the V-22. Normally a company designs an aircraft then sells it. Incorporating the R&D into the cost per unit. The Osprey is being developed with the military. So that the cost of the initial craft are much higher than the deployable craft will be. Analysts make the simplistic comparison of an off the shelf rotorcraft with the Osprey. Apples and Oranges IMHO. I love how no one talks about the Billions that have been spent on the F-22 Raptor program.

Since 2k1 there has been a demand in Afghanistan for the osprey in operations. I think the V-22 can replace a few specialty rotorcraft in the inventory.

Sorry for the rant. I love the craft and think it will change aviation majorly once it goes into general production with the Bell 609.

[BEISSEN]

I hate the Media they cant get $hit right.Its either really good looking or really bad.We see alot of the stuff on the news that happend here and we are like thats not what Happend those idiots.They try to explain the plan of what we do and never get it right for example if any of you watched the news a few weeks back about the Largest Air Assult done in Iraq.They tried to say what we were doing and they got that all fubared cus their plan making and explnation of military planning is horriable.

[Muzzy]

oh ok....yea i guess the media overdramatized the crash history.
and i wasnt aware of the history of the harrier!! thas quite suprising.

[kognition]

Well it isn't surprising to hear this.
An amazing aircraft concept in any case.

[blu808]

Is there any way for people to bail out of these planes? seems like in all the crashes everyone died.

[ThatGuy]

The crew doesn't typically equip themselves with parachutes. As is the case with most Helicopters. Usually a helo can slow it's decent to allow for survivability of most crashes. Unfortunately that wasn't the case for these incidents. That is not to say that every impact will be fatal in an Osprey. Just that the 4 crashes we have experienced didn't leave any room for survival. May they rest in peace.

[blu808]

Can they auto rotate like a helicopter if the power is lost?

[BEISSEN]

The AH64D Apache this is my Bird that I have been Around the Whole Time.The Pics are also ones that have been taken since I have been here in Iraq from my unit.These are no Internet sech pics I have there on my computer.

[ThatGuy]

Can they auto rotate like a helicopter if the power is lost?

No, it cannot auto-rotate. However if one engine fails, the remaining engine is capable of turning both rotorheads to allow for a controlled decent and landing.

[BEISSEN]

Also Auto Rotate does not always stop you from crashing its ment to help slow your decent down and gain a little better control so you have a better chance to Survive.

[blu808]

Well its better than nothing.

When i used to fly rc helicopters, i would fly them till they ran out of gas, then autorotate them for landing.

shock landing

[kandyflip445]

Do you have any pictures of the V-22 with the wings folded up?

Let's not forget that I'm in the Navy...wtf...:fawk2:

[ThatGuy]

Wings folded up?

Check out this link. I think it's what you are asking for.
http://people.howstuffworks.com/osprey2.htm

[blu808]

Sweet.

Damn all this makes you really think how much engineering goes into these planes. I cant imagine how much shit goes into the stealths, and what was needed to make the sr71 back in the day.

woot.

[kandyflip445]

I meant the rotors folded up and it ready for stowage on a ship. I've only seen an illustration.

[ThatGuy]

There is a sped up time lapse shot of the folding sequence in this video.
V22 Music Video (http://www.tiltrotormech.com/multimedia/tiltrotor_videos/V-22%20Music%20Video.mpg)
And there is also this video.
Fold Sequence (http://www.tiltrotormech.com/multimedia/tiltrotor_videos/Movie_acft%2021%20BFWS.mpg)

From flight ready to full stow the sequence takes 90 sec. to complete.

[AFSil80]

Man, that's cool to hear from someone that's up close and personal on the Ospreys.

You sir, have a cool job.

I just get to work on tankers all day, big fatass Boeing jets. :mad:

[fliprayzin240sx]

Its funny that you brought the Osprey up. Im in the air force out in Travis, one of my boy whos a maintaner for the KC-10 just got shipped to NM to be part of the first operational squadron for those things. Just sucked that they had a lottery for one name from hydraulics from both the KC-10 and the C-5 side, and his name pops. 3 wks later he's PCSing to NM. Cool plane, better than a Helo for its speed and range. I have just not been a big fan of VTOL, ever since ive seen a harrier take off and land, it just look so damn awkward.

Speaking of C-5s...yall seen that shiet in DOVER??? Surprised nobody died, the freakin fuselage snapped in HALF and the horizontal stabilizer was gone.

Also ADVAN, wut job did you say your trying to get? If your trying for somekind of Aircraft maintenance, Im not sure wussup with those careerfield rite now since theyre cutting them all across the board. And thats all Aircrafts, from fighters to heavies. My roomates getting force out rite now cuz theres no job for him.

[sncs14]

Odd how this thread changed subjects. Anyway I always liked watching when the miltary planes/helecopters flew overhead when I lived in Wilmington.

[ALTRNTV]

Odd how this thread changed subjects.

As with every thread on Zilvia. :x:

[ThatGuy]

It started as a joke about my screen name, turned into a quick bio about me, then transferred over to interest in my job. At least it took a logical path, unlike alot of Threads on Zilvia. :bowrofl:

[Sean1978]

ThatGuy, so you work in avionics? I'm a calibration man myself. You otta put in some accompanied orders for Iwakuni when you can, best 3.5 years of my career..

[Muzzy]

gotta link on that dover thing?? like pics?? i see the story though.

[kognition]

I have actually had my eye on an Auto Gyro, this company in NZ makes them. They auto rotate safer than a helo. Its a pusher prop that just feathers the main rotor blades. It can land and stop a distance equal to its length! Thats short!
My plan is to buy a warehouse out here by my local airfield (Gillespie) in a couple years so i can have the play room to work on it and store it.
http://www.ufo-helithruster.com/images/1_UFO_L_side_taxi_Green_a.JPG

[NIK90s13]

Thanks for serving, my older brother was/is a marine me and my younger brother are ''squids''. i got out in 1990, if you know, are the osprey going to be deploid to Navy carriers?
Oh you are still an ass!!JK

[fliprayzin240sx]

Osprey will be carrier deployed...biggest reason why the wings fold and rotate.

Heres the official boeing page for it...
http://www.boeing.com/rotorcraft/military/v22/index.htm

[ThatGuy]

Yes they will be carrier deployed in most cases. However due the increased range capabilities the ships won't have to get as close to the Hot Zones for the Osprey to perform it's mission.

[xtheenderx]

HOLY SHIZZLE STICKS! Your in NC! maybe i should stop by next time i go visit my relatives! are you far from durham by any chance? lol....

[ThatGuy]

I'm about 3 hours from Durham, and I don't really think I'm worth visiting. :keke:

[drift freaq]

man, did this thread turn from a funny into a interesting read. hahahhahhahhahha

[NIK90s13]

Yes they will be carrier deployed in most cases. However due the increased range capabilities the ships won't have to get as close to the Hot Zones for the Osprey to perform it's mission.
Cool ,Have you heard that the Navy is going to start training for ground forces to releave the troops in Irac? I got the info From my brother, He sent me a military news link.

[ThatGuy]

I can't tell you anymore then what you may have already read. :bow: