240SX Performance Modification Guide WIKI

[Sean1978]

I have created the framework for a Nissan 240SX Modification Guide Wiki. With the help of the community, this can become the FAQ to end all FAQ's. It can be a perfect "handbook" for modifying your 240SX. Please have a look:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240SX_Performance_Modification
I just started working on this 2 days ago, anyone can contribute or take away from the data, just try to keep it unbiased and informative. explain things from a neutral standpoint and leave arguments out for discussion in there proper place (message boards like this)

I also need some people to upload pictures and Illistrations that aren't copywrited. are there any experienced wiki writers here that can help? even if you have never wrote a wiki I encourage you to contribute to this project.

here's an example of what the community has created for the definition of 240SX on wikipedia.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/240SX
I helped out with that a bit but I think this book I have created allows us to compile data that goes beyond the scope of an encyclopedia definition.

[Neejay]

WOW! Great guide, especially for n00bs/non-mechanical people.

Great job!

[g6civcx]

That's great! I only have one problem. The premise of a wiki is anyone can update and change the information as they see fit. I would contribute if we had an editor.

[Sean1978]

if someone screws something up the wiki can be reverted to a previous edit. feel free to start adding any tidbit of info you want.

[S14DB]

Good shell you have created. Hopefully people can fill it in with good general info and keep nit picking debates out of it.

[g6civcx]

Okay, I really like the idea of a wiki if we can overcome the edit problem. I'll start contributing.

[Sean1978]

one rule of thumb is to always put a note in the bottom remarks column. also pay attention to the "talk" tab that shows what's going on behind the scenes.

[g6civcx]

one rule of thumb is to always put a note in the bottom remarks column. also pay attention to the "talk" tab that shows what's going on behind the scenes.

Thanks for the tip. My biggest worry was concurrency and version control.

[TurDz]

Love the idea, great for Zilvians to put their knowledge to good use!

[NA4NOW]

This is GREAT!!!! Thankyou for taking time to put this together.


Jordan

[AllenRPS13]

that's great, thanks for taking your time to write it up

[Angel]

Love the idea, great for Zilvians to put their knowledge to good use!

Yeah but unfortunately most of that "knowledge" concerns flushness and fashion tips. So please keep that stuff on this board.

[Sean1978]

Yeah but unfortunately most of that "knowledge" concerns flushness and fashion tips. So please keep that stuff on this board.

yeah I'm going to keep it away from body kits, wheels, and aero. I think that a different book might be appropriate for that stuff though..

[Sean1978]

I need a lot of pictures to illustrate the WIKI book. I can't just pull pictures from the internet because wikibooks is really tough on copywrighted images stuff I'm looking for:

300ZX brake upgrade installed pucture

A clean, OEM looking 240SX for the cover picture

A picture of a clean stock KA24DE engine bay

A picture of a clean stock KA24E engine bay

A picture of a clean stock SR20 engine bay, OEM unmodified is best

A picture of a stock KA24DE / KA24E header


lots of other stuff I can't think of from the top of my head...

[sr20newb]

Wow! This is great ! Great work

[Lost_DriFter]

i posted some really helpful tips in here already its under suspension and chassis hope this helps you guys out

[sr20newb]

Wow! This is great ! Great work

[drew935]

Will these pics help?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/drew935/935%20Si/th_myS13.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/drew935/935%20Si/myS13.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/drew935/935%20Si/th_daenginebay.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/drew935/935%20Si/daenginebay.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/drew935/935%20Si/th_sideengineview.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/drew935/935%20Si/sideengineview.jpg)

[BigVinnie]

You forgot to add the DC Sports Header to the list of headers.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/BigVinnie/DCsportsinstall010.jpg
Also under exhaust high flow CATS should be added such as CATCO high flow, Magna Flow High Flow.....
Throttle Body Boring should be added to increase HP and Throttle Responce.
ECU tuning should be added as a performance enhancer.
Engine Management systems such as Mega Squirt, Haltech, and Biki Rom.

[Sean1978]

Will these pics help?
Thanks guys! this is exactly the type of info and feedback I wanted. Thanks for the suggestions and don't be afraid to just go in and get your hands dirty. I already added the KA24DE ITB setup with pics courtesey of S14DB.

[Sean1978]

quick note guys, when you make a modification or addition , take a look at the "discussion" tab on the top of each wiki page, this is a behind-the-scenes page that you use to explain changes or additions that you make. I saw a lot of new entiries, I'm going to go in and clean up and do some more formatting tommorow.

[S14DB]

Thanks guys! this is exactly the type of info and feedback I wanted. Thanks for the suggestions and don't be afraid to just go in and get your hands dirty. I already added the KA24DE ITB setup with pics courtesey of S14DB.
Say what? :confused:

[TheSquidd]

A little restructuring would be useful, and some of the information added lacks proper grammar and punctuation (not that I do much better), but overall a good start. I'd like to hear more in depth about suspension tuning, I'll try and scroung the internet and find some articles I can gleam some information from and try posting it.

[Sean1978]

I got some pretty awesome messages from wikibooks admin this morning, I thought I'd share it:

Seriously, welcome to Wikibooks. It is awsome to have somebody contributing to Wikibooks with such original and unique content. The Nissan 240SX Performance Modification wikibook is precisely the kind of content that we are looking for here, and we are glad that you are participating with this project. Keep up the good work and I hope that your book is successful.

I've already been trying to catalog your Wikibook, but we are in the midst of a massive reorganization of the front end of Wikibooks at the moment. Hopefully when the dust settles it will be a better organization to all of the content that we have here, and this book certainly deserves some prominent attention. --Rob Horning 03:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User_talk:Saen1978"


so basically our "Performance Modification Guide" is pretty welcome over there. I'm going to be out this weekend and probably won't do too much work to it but you all can feel free to continue to contribute.

Thanks!!

[BigVinnie]

Made some corrections to the header section. With some dyno graphs, and correct terms.

[g6civcx]

Don't worry. I'll edit for proper grammar, spelling, and correct usage of terminology :)

[Sean1978]

I added some more stuff including a section for fuel management and ECU upgrades. I need a few pictures:

-A picture of a Stock header setting next to an Aftermarket header would be nice

-A picture of a Stock Exaust sitting next to a 3 inch aftermarket catback would be nice also.


also, when you write something in, please specify S13 or S14. someone wrote some info into the sway bars section and I don't know what it's for.

[BigVinnie]

-A picture of a Stock header setting next to an Aftermarket header would be nice


Will this work....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/BigVinnie/DCsportsinstall006.jpg

Sean I also tried to add some pics. What format do I need to follow to add them? Photo bucket isn't working.

[Sean1978]

you can upload them directly to wikibooks, you might have to log on.

here's the format for inserting pictures:
[[Image:S13240.jpg|200px|thumb|A Stock Appearance Nissan 240SX]]
I don't think it uses external pictures, just upload the file to wikibooks

[Tenchuu]

Will this work....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/BigVinnie/DCsportsinstall006.jpg

Sean I also tried to add some pics. What format do I need to follow to add them? Photo bucket isn't working.


??? what is that off of? not a DOHc KA or RB for sure.

[BigVinnie]

??? what is that off of? not a DOHc KA or RB for sure.

It is off of a KA24DE.

[S14DB]

??? what is that off of? not a DOHc KA or RB for sure.
That's an S13 not S14. :keke:

[Sean1978]

pulled this from the book:
Strut Bars

These are a must have. Some people opt to only have a rear bar but I believe in both front and rear strut bars to balance it all out. They are simple to install and really improve turn in and cornering capabilities/confidence. Even the ebay ones will make a difference, however the best kind are the ones that are specifically designed for our chassis. s13/s14


alright, the first thing you want to do for a part is explain exactly what strut bars are, explain as if you where telling somone that didin't know squat abou cars. maybe "strut bars are bars that connect the tops of the strut towers together or something like that. This book needs to be something a noob can read without coming onto zilvia and asking questions like
"I don't know what a strut bar is but I must have one!". some illustrations might help explain a lot of the chassis bracing things a bit better.

[TheSquidd]

Yeah seems a few of the posts on there are just people throwing up what they think of the modification not a clear description of what it is or how it is done.

[Sean1978]

while I created the framework some of the subs have single sentences like "coilovers are goo" I just put something in like a test. as long as people chane and add to info the WIKI will evolve..

[DJPimpFlex]

I added hella to the coilover section.

[Threeyearitch]

I added some quazi-usefull info to the KA turbo section. I'm gonna see if i can get my buddies over at ka-t.org to contribute :P

[Neejay]

I added hella to the coilover section.
Good shit..........

[DJPimpFlex]

updated linkage and springs and shocks.

[Sean1978]

good work guys, the book is expanding. we need someone to expand on the SR20DET swap step by step, also there's lots of room to review any performance parts you may have on your car..

[BigVinnie]

Dude who did the strut bar section? Its not really all that informative.
All strut braces do are to prevent inherent vertical chassis flex that is usually found within the strut towers. It should of also been listed that strut bars are used on MacPherson systems with a monocoque or unibody chassis style.

[Sean1978]

you have the power!!!

[Sean1978]

This is what it currently says:
Strut tower bars are a popular modification that provide strut reinforcements during compression and keep the strut upper mounts from changing the travel to being dynamic. These are a must have. They are simple to install and really improve turn in and cornering capabilities/confidence. Even the cheaper ebay ones will make a very big difference. The better design would be the triple tube from ctune or greddy. These provide maximum stiffness with minimal weight. Remember, the tube is the strongest shape. The worst strut bars are Produced by Megan Racing for the 240sx. These have an I beam design and look good, but thats about it. They can actually flex and be bent by hand, as well as bend in half if you stand on them. Good bracing parts should not be that weak for any area
I don't know who wrote it because they didin't use the "discussion" tab to explain there edit.
I don't like the part that says "the worst strut bars are produced by megan racing", I don't really want opinionated reviews in an explination section, that would be better off in a "strut bar reviews" submodule (I'll make one)
If you see info that you think is incomplete or inacurate, edit it, just be sure to discuss and explain the edit on the top of the page in the "discussion" page.

[Ess14]

I'm jumping in to convince people to add their .02 in the SR20 performance upgrades section.

We can add anything like z32 MAF and underlying parts... ECU / emanage type parts aswell.

I guess it would be hard to do this without promoting one or the other and then not taking a neutral standpoint... Someone try.

[Sean1978]

We can add anything like z32 MAF and underlying parts... ECU / emanage type parts aswell.


MAF upgrades and ECU's aren't SR20 specific upgrades, thus they aren't under the engines.
On the top page, look under "Ignition and Fuel Management" that's where MAF and ECU stuff should go.

[TheSquidd]

Dropped some knowledge on Welded differentials.

This should be stickied. I feel it's getting lost in the mish mash of tech.

[Ess14]

MAF upgrades and ECU's aren't SR20 specific upgrades, thus they aren't under the engines.
On the top page, look under "Ignition and Fuel Management" that's where MAF and ECU stuff should go.

Thanks

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[Ess14]

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240SX_Performance_Modification/Ignition_and_Fuel_Management
No one has contributed to this part.

My next performance upgrade is going to be some tuning of some sort and I will probably end up with a new ECU or Emanage to replace this SAFC-II...

I don't know too much about aftermarket ECUs so mmmm

Looking good.

[tastyratz]

This is what it currently says:

I don't know who wrote it because they didin't use the "discussion" tab to explain there edit.
I don't like the part that says "the worst strut bars are produced by megan racing", I don't really want opinionated reviews in an explination section, that would be better off in a "strut bar reviews" submodule (I'll make one)
If you see info that you think is incomplete or inacurate, edit it, just be sure to discuss and explain the edit on the top of the page in the "discussion" page.


I wrote probabbly 50% of whats been added to that thing (hoping to spark others to really make it grow-seems real slow lately). I noted most of my things in the discussion tabs, suppose I didnt note that. What I wrote wasnt entirely a review, it wasnt even opinionated. (I dont "think" it will bend, I "did" bend it) I dont think megan racing stuff sucks, I like them. im saying that the bar produced by them is I beam, very thin, and can flex by hand. why? ive bent one in half after my friend messed up his bracket and im not superman. that is NOT a structurally sound product and that is fact. There is not enough material to properly brace the torsional load of a 240 (maybe a gokart) and thats from an engineering standpoint. I didnt comment on positives or negatives, compare/contrast etc. Im sure megan isnt the only company that makes crappy bars like that, I bet someone copies on ebay too. what I was saying was informative. Get a tubed bar for maximum strength and minimal weight (with examples) get an I beam based bar if you want one that wont do crap and is purely for show (with an example manufacturer:megans). The tube is the strongest shape for load like that- a minimilistic I beam butter knif is not.

[TheSquidd]

I stilll vote for this to be stickied.

[supaslidz]

real nice cool of you to take the time