escaping from the way of the dumped ride

[Enjin]

maaaaaaaaaaan I just came to the realization...

having an incredibly dumped car is freaken stupid.

its ricey.

especially if you drive your car every day. its just freaken so stupid. it rides like ass. doesnt handle well. scrape on everything. bad axle angle (I think?).

my car used to be dumped as crap (nearly tucking 15's in the front, tucking in the back). I raised my car up and am soooo much happier. better ride, better overall performance... better everything. The only thing I sacrificed imho was looks, and I dont mind not looking like a ricer.

I honestly say I enjoy :2f2f: much more.

lol I'm not hating, just am more or less renouncing my faith in extreme slammitude. have fun driving! :bigok:

[curbhuggerrps13]

ummm....so i guessed u raised ur car right? :ugh:

[stretch240sx]

I raised my car up and am soooo much happier.

yeah... but i agree with you... i just want to go a little lower than i am right now... but im not dumped or anything really low

[nistech]

so u are saying low cars are rice?

[lilredstiffy]

ive been thinking about raising mine, the bad axle angle is killing me here bro

[kuramaya]

show me a pic of what you consider rice as far as ride height...if you have good dampers you can be low and have a good ride..but to me a stiff ride is good..it's why I drive a sports car...

[REDSH!FT]

Uh...if you lower your car to the point that you're adversely affecting your performance then you're retarded.

[Dousan_PG]

good glad you raised it
did u dump it on stock suspension arms? then yeah it will ride like shit.
tucking 15s is for retards anyways..15s are for ae86s and civics..

[red240]

good glad you raised it
did u dump it on stock suspension arms? then yeah it will ride like shit.
tucking 15s is for retards anyways..15s are for ae86s and civics..:keke: :keke:

Mine is pretty low and I don't think i've scraped it,low=:2f2f:

[P4rD0nM3]

Nooooo, I got 15s...

[Enjin]

lol yeah I am on the megan race coilovers. I know that if you have some of the more baller coilovers out there, then you can do that.

even so...

if you ride where you constantly have to avoid small bumps in the road and have to go at a 1degree angle across speedbumps, its still stupid. drift king (and well... every other true racer) says that you should have your suspension up to handle the best while still compensating for the little bumps in the road. of course I am not talking about strictly racing on a smooth track.

lol yay!

basically going off of this:

rice: choosing looks over, or in such a manner that it adversely affects, performance.

[ALTRNTV]

I agree with you, sort of.

You know what your sig reminds me of... the new Mustangs.

[Enjin]

yeeeeeah edited :) lololol good idea

lol I'm not trying to be mean or anything. I just have NOooOOooo idea why I ever was that dumped! It feels soooo much better being at a good ride height. :bigok:heyyyyyyyy

[ALTRNTV]

Oh wow. Expect to be FLAMED to hell now...

[usdm180sx]

good glad you raised it
did u dump it on stock suspension arms? then yeah it will ride like shit.
tucking 15s is for retards anyways..15s are for ae86s and civics..

Too many people run their s13 on 15's...

[randyjordan]

how can you say that s14 is rice....

i like it. its just part of the personal preference that people have with their cars.

dont hate.

thats scooters car , and that car will own yours anyday.

[usdm180sx]

Oh wow. Expect to be FLAMED to hell now...

Well, it's their car so yeah...

[ALTRNTV]

Why should he expect to be flamed?

Just wait and see...

[Nan Desu Ka?!]

im with akademikONE
wow, attacking members ride's is a no no. i would edit that if i were you. I mean, its all well and good to have an opinion... but that might get ya uber flamed.

[Enjin]

lol yeah. its not even like me to hate at all. you guys like being dumped so its yalllls deal. doesnt affect me :)

me != drama starter so I edited. I <3 all you guys!

lol yeah a missing front end does tend to give that BLOCKY RETRO I GAWTZ POWERRRRRRRR look mwuahahaha

[mrmephistopheles]

run at least 17s and dump it. You won't complain as much.

[usdm180sx]

It's funny how people get flamed for running high offsets but not for being super slammed/dumped.

[ALTRNTV]

^
I'd rather be slammed/dumped than run pizza cutters.

[usdm180sx]

^
I'd rather be slammed/dumped than run pizza cutters.

I wouldn't do either but again it's a free country.

[ManoNegra]

I think most of us have been guilty of coming to sites like this one, seeing cars with their tires tucked inside the wells and doing the obvious (lowering the car) to get 'the look' then drive pogo sticks on the freeway.
As already mentioned many of us neglect the details (adjustable arms and suspension work) to get the car riding smooth. Gotta look tight first... damn priorities. I know I have in the past.

[dorifto240]

..but to me a stiff ride is good..it's why I drive a sports car...

Heh, I couldn't afford a sports car, so I'm stuck w/ an S13 with coilovers :keke:

j/k man:angel: ... personally I don't really like the stiff ride of coilovers, but I love the way they make my car handle so I deal with it

[P4rD0nM3]

Enjin are you a programmer...you just used !=...

[Enjin]

lol yeah... a little nerd speak leaked out sorry! :)

[95zilvia]

Not low enough.

[dct223]

I think most of us have been guilty of coming to sites like this one, seeing cars with their tires tucked inside the wells and doing the obvious (lowering the car) to get 'the look' then drive pogo sticks on the freeway.
As already mentioned many of us neglect the details (adjustable arms and suspension work) to get the car riding smooth. Gotta look tight first... damn priorities. I know I have in the past.


i completely agree with you!!! people just want to super slam their cars and dont even care about camber issues... I remember after i got all new multi link suspension and and alignment, car felt sooo much nicer and smooth!! not to mention it just glides out there on the track..

[meatish]

weee lol i just scooted my seat forward and it's soooo much better when i'm picking up groceries in my race car! im like ABRAWRR all the way to Von's omg!

..i doubt most people here actually drive their cars hard enough to be able to tell if their roll center is optimized. they just want to do some stupid little shit to their car and act like it's some race car technology so they can tell girls about it. granted, what you said is correct. lowered cars w/out corrected geometry handle worse. its just that.. who gives a damn. it's not like you're competing for .1 of a second or anything.
in short,
a dumped car that still gets beat is less ricey than a car with a bunch of susp. shit that sits in your driveway..

[ispypsi]

its all about the rule of diminishing returns.

low can be cool, but too low is just pointless for anything but a style. and a proper setup, as mentioned, will work well.

i have everything but the 3 rear arms pretty much, i'll get some RUCA's to help with tire wear, but otherwise i wont use the extra arms to my advantage and i dont believe in buying parts that im just going to be able to type on a "mod list" and not actually get proper use out of em.

[sideview_180sx]

those who complain about ride quality, either don't have all the suspension arms, or aren't riding on quality. Not to mention the fact being slammed on 15s/16s is idiotic, that's just asking for problems, go with 17s/18s. You won't have to worry as much.


Still complaining about how expensive it is ??? Try this ......... save up !!!

[McRussellPants]

This thread is made of ass and poo.

-Roll center doesn't matter for 90% of the people in this thread... at all.

-of coarse tucking 15s isn't the best for funky fresh handling. it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out. 15s aren't the best, you don't see everyone with FNs. "Im escaping from the ways of stockness" threads.

-How come noone has mentioned that hes trying to judge handling on a car with 12/10kg springs and stock 15in wheels?

[dct223]

heh not to mention megan 12/10's

[tyler240]

well i just got some trust coilovers a few days ago the ride is really stiff even with the rear set on 4, but i can make it softer just by turning a knob.. so im not bitching... i live in east texas and the roads here are shit honestly.... im still thinking about adjusting the front to where its a little lower.. the stiffer suspension is amazing when your flying around corners on back country roads :)

yea the negative camber in the back is f'in horrible.. but that will be fixed ina few weeks when my stuff gets here...

[sideview_180sx]

megan track coilovers have stiffer springs, but aren't revalved for the uprated springs. YOu are stupid to worry about 'axle angle' these cars don't have super sensitive axles that fall aprat if the angle if off. YOu will break them from crashing ot a whole lotta HP before 'bad axle angle' will do anything.

[SoSideways]

megan track coilovers have stiffer springs, but aren't revalved for the uprated springs. YOu are stupid to worry about 'axle angle' these cars don't have super sensitive axles that fall aprat if the angle if off. YOu will break them from crashing ot a whole lotta HP before 'bad axle angle' will do anything.

How do you know that the race series Megan Racing coilovers aren't revalved for 12/10 springs?

[sideview_180sx]

Very reputable source that I can not reveal. Also, it's some what of a known thing within the local industry.

[dct223]

drive on megans or watch a car running megans.... then drive a car/watch a car with a more quality coilover and ull see why

[WILDACEX187]

i run SS so i dont have the ride comfort issues but i wanted to ask a noob slamming question. i was reading up on the "how low can u go" thread and people are mentioning that they remove collars? is that even safe? also wont lowering the hell out of coils preload the spring and mess up the handling/ride?

[topsecretgold]

Mines max dumped and handles like a champ...and i dont think anyone would call it rice.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/topsecretgold/smoke10.jpg

[kognition]

If your car has never seen a track, then your a ricer. :coolugh: Unless... there is another word for guys who have never tracked but do not consider themselves a ricer. Is it Tuner? I'm kidding, don't listen to me, because i just got home from HIN at the Q and walked away feeling very queezy and saddened.

[meatish]

yes your car is rice if you put shit on it to make it faster, and never race it. your car has a pretty paintjob.
ill let people make their own conclusions.

[SimpleS14]

Mines max dumped and handles like a champ...and i dont think anyone would call it rice.

umm....the rims they are not matching.....why is this? :tweak:

[vinhnumber]

15's are show car rims for ae86's

[TougeRacing]

if ur car isnt dumped, it sucks.

[Johny5]

Mines max dumped and handles like a champ...and i dont think anyone would call it rice.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/topsecretgold/smoke10.jpg

i would and will until you post action shots. all you do is hate in the for sale forum and randomly insert pictures of that grocery getter in threads it doesn't belong in. wow, a dumped thread, perfect opportunity for you to show off your mismatched wheels and horrible tastes in aero!!!!

[blackflag_Rms13]

Mines max dumped and handles like a champ...and i dont think anyone would call it rice.

That's definately not "max dumped"... :keke:

[lucky7]

perfect opportunity for you to show off your mismatched wheels and horrible tastes in aero!!!!

oh please... are you serious? i just saw a picture of your car... he has MUCH better taste in aero than you do (i can be an intraweb badass too). i love how people are quick to toss out the ricer card when they have no buisness using the term. i rarely share my opinion on this site, because i frequently get shitted on for doing so. fuck it. im tired of some of the people around here getting all bent out of shape all the time. ESPECIALLY when it comes to tearing people apart for their wheels. its such a fucking joke. aparently you're not cool around here if you dont have a F&F body kit and 10" wheels with a 8" lip. oh, and if you dont drift, you should sell your car so it will get 'used properly'. some of you have the maturity of an 8 year old... but whatever. im done with that rant. :fawkd:

my favorite car in this whole thread is the black kouki with the lip and the welds (the slammed car thread). thats good taste right there. :naughty: congrats to that owner for having the balls to form his own opinion of what is fun in a car. +1 more for having bigger balls and posting pictures on this site.

[DJPimpFlex]

those who complain about ride quality, either don't have all the suspension arms, or aren't riding on quality. Not to mention the fact being slammed on 15s/16s is idiotic, that's just asking for problems, go with 17s/18s. You won't have to worry as much.


Still complaining about how expensive it is ??? Try this ......... save up !!!

OK, how can any one say that bigger rims are better for performance. The ONLY thing big rims help with is tire deflection with non R compound tires, and fitting brakes. Do you ever see real race cars with ubber small sidewalls? Look at fuckin F1 cars. They have like 12" wheels. Big wheels however do hurt you tremendously. There heavy, so you need big brakes to slow them down. They also put the center moment of intertia further from the center (making it harder to start and stop), clearence issues, tire prices, ect ect ect..... The only reason you people put 17-18's on your car is style, and for the people who really drive its for tire defection. 16's on a S13 do quite well. I should know.

[SimpleS14]

DJPimpFlex - Dunno man, I've noticed an increase in handling performance when I put the 17s on my car. Also...they do make lightweight wheels that compensate for the size of the rim.

[lucky7]

not to mention ride quality suffers emensely.

ill never go bigger than 17". theres no reason to, and not to mention on alot of cars it looks like crap.

[McRussellPants]

oh please... are you serious? i just saw a picture of your car... he has MUCH better taste in aero than you do.

:ugh: Mismatch OEM totally owns Uras G+ style :ugh:

i rarely share my opinion on this site, because i frequently get shitted on for doing so.

"Wow, thats weird. people say Im stupid everytime I open my cum dumpster. It must be everone else though"

:ugh:

my favorite car in this whole thread is the black kouki with the lip and the welds (the slammed car thread). thats good taste right there. :naughty: congrats to that owner for having the balls to form his own opinion of what is fun in a car. +1 more for having bigger balls and posting pictures on this site.

Ugh, you whip out the cockride hard for drag spec but then shit on anyone who likes drifting?

Touche Sir.


This thread has degraded from ass and poo to a full on game of Grocery Getter vs. Drifter ass tag...


...Meh, I don't have anything better to do.

[lucky7]

i didnt shit on anybody. your reading skills pwn. i was stating how people get bitched at because they do different things with the cars. my allegiance is not strictly drag, nor strictly any one single aspect of it. i can respect every part of motorsports wether i participate or not.

bullshit and sarcasm aside, this is the only thing you said that i would ever agree with:

:ugh: Mismatch OEM totally owns Uras G+ style


this car:
http://www.uras.co.jp/urashp/parts/s14_b_f.png
the same as this car:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2297000-2297999/2297085_1_full.jpg

they both look like garbage. when i see them, i point and laugh. OEM FTW, end of fucking story.

[North240]

OK, how can any one say that bigger rims are better for performance. The ONLY thing big rims help with is tire deflection with non R compound tires, and fitting brakes. Do you ever see real race cars with ubber small sidewalls? Look at fuckin F1 cars. They have like 12" wheels.

Right but you ignored the fact that this is a street car and is driven daily not on r compounds so to get less tire deflection and actually get a better feel from your uber jdm coilovers ( or in his case way to stiff megans) you need a bigger wheel.

[DJPimpFlex]

DJPimpFlex - Dunno man, I've noticed an increase in handling performance when I put the 17s on my car. Also...they do make lightweight wheels that compensate for the size of the rim.

The increase is the less tire deflection because of the smaller side wall. This is irrelevent on a real race car, and IMO not worth the extra hassel over 16" rims on a S13. S14's are great with 17" rims because they dont have the same poor travel in the suspension as a S13 does, so they can get away with it and get slightly better performance out of street tires. If they were racing they would be unnessicary because of the extremely stiff sidewalls in r compound and racing slick tires.

Also if you can get a light weight 17" rim, you can get an even lighter 16" rim.



Right but you ignored the fact that this is a street car and is driven daily not on r compounds so to get less tire deflection and actually get a better feel from your uber jdm coilovers ( or in his case way to stiff megans) you need a bigger wheel.

OK to clarify I'm talking about S13's primarily(it also applys to S14's, but only with 18's). The lack of suspension travel (espically in the front) makes the larger wheel more problematic than helpful. You can get a lower roll center and have no clearence problems and correct linkage angles. If you put 17" (or god forbid 18" rims) on a S13 you are doing more harm than good performance wise. ALL YOU ARE GAINING IS LESS TIRE DEFLECTION. Now weigh that against everything bad that comes from bigger wheels.

More weight
decreased acceleration speed
increased brakeing distance
increase tendancy to have brake fade
rubbing (cutting throught the infumous harness in the driver side wheel well)
more expensive tires

I would rather PSI my tires a little bit more or strech my tires on a wider rims to help with the deflection with street tires. That is why I only run 16" rims.

[chmercer]

^^^

ok dude. you really need to stop typing.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

ok, lets disregard your comment about trying to compare f1 wheel sizes to production street cars, because i dont want to have an annurism right now by explaining how awesomley retarded/uneducated that statment is.

why is tire deflection irrelevant on a real race car? that makes no sense.
s13s have poor suspension travel? any idiot with dual height adjustable coilovers can set a car up to have full suspension travel. dont droop the spring and youre good. again, your comment makes no sense.
have you ever seen touring cars. DTM series. le mans. jgtc. porsche cups. blah blah blah. TONS of race cars utilize 18, 19 inch wheels. the reasons have absolutley nothing to do with any of the crap you are sputtering in your post.
again, s14s have less suspension travel in the front? compared to what? on what shocks? what the hell are you talking about?

if your tires rub on your fenders and chop up your harness, you need to learn somthing about wheel fitment. i cant help you with that. i tuck tread on 18s in front, no rub, no harness damage. and yes. more expensive tires. i can deffinitley see why that would be a concern of yours, looking at your car pic in your sig. stock bumper, skirts, rice wing, mismatched panels, mismatched wheels, you deffinitley look like a performance minded individual.

[TougeRacing]

^^^ oh man, you pwn3d him so hard. bahaha

[sideview_180sx]

I'm glad chmercer got him before I did.

BTW I run 17x9s all around, why, because it looks nice, you can run bigger brakes, stretch tires more, and BTW never compare purpose-built to mass production. It shows you really do not have the ability to make legitamate comparisons.

Having a wing on the back of a street car is pretty useless eh Pimpflex

and why is it, that on stock m3s and 911s which are known for handling. seem to have 18s. OMG huge wheels tire deflection decreased suspension travel boo hoo !

[DJPimpFlex]

street car? WTF? I've NEVER drivin that car on the street. Track only. Aero aside that car is set up. And I have aero, but its not on the car yet. For cars designed for big wheels it a whole different story, but you guys can have your big ass wheels all you want. I dont see any of you out at the track. Come to altamonte and lets drive. And where do you see mismatched wheels?

[that180guy]

"Tire deflection is the most important variable governing the area of contact between the tire and the roadway. If inflation pressure and load are varied simultaneously, the contact area will remain effectively constant. "
whats that gotta do with wheel size?

http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/tirestuff.html
i just learned something new +1 to you sir djpimpflex
- 012830291830921381092 for your moronic statements of wheel size blah blah blah

edit: funny, ive never seen you at altamont. ill see you ther hopefully summer, wen i get my pos running with too much tire deflection due to overly big wheels.

[dct223]

didnt know what this tire deflection was so did a quick search... one of these articles came up...

http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/tirestuff.html

good quotes from the article..

" Besides appearance, the plus concept is a key reason to switch wheels. Plus sizing your wheels and tires is the best way to improve both the performance and appearance of your vehicle. By using a larger diameter wheel with a lower profile tire it's possible to properly maintain the overall diameter of the tire, keeping odometer and speedometer changes negligible. By using a tire with a shorter sidewall, you gain quickness in steering response and better lateral stability."

and

" Besides plus sizing, other factors should be considered before shelling out big bucks for wheels. The benefits of a good-quality alloy wheel are numerous. And, of course, many cars come with them as factory original equipment. Either way, you end up with reduced unsprung weight compared to steel wheels. This is a factor affecting a vehicle's road holding ability. Unsprung weight is the portion of a vehicle that's not supported by the suspension (i.e. wheels, tires and brakes) and therefore is most susceptible to road shock and cornering forces. By reducing unsprung weight, alloy wheels provide more precise steering input and improved cornering characteristics. The added strength of a quality alloy wheel can also reduce tire deflection in cornering. This is particularly critical in a car equipped with high performance tires where lateral forces may approach 1.0g. Better brake cooling is another benefit. The metals in alloy wheels are excellent conductors of heat and improve heat dissipation from the brakes. The risk of brake fade is also reduced under more demanding conditions such as spirited driving on a twisty mountain road. Additionally, alloy wheels can be designed to allow cool air to flow over the brake calipers and rotors. The lighter rotational weight of alloy wheels can even provide a slight increase in acceleration and fuel economy. "

[kognition]

Agreed on this, but not to gang up on you Jonny.
Big wheels have serious upsides to them over smaller wheels. And in the racing world, wheel weight/size issues are compensated for by weight reduction in other areas of the car. Sure inertia in a wheel is an important issue. And if you have significant weight reduction in the car, wheel size becomes less critical incrementally. I just dropped 100 lb's from my car by
replacing the stock 60 lb. doors with 10 lb. composite replacements. Thats more than enough to compensate for 17's or even 18's. Weight reduction is key to almost every aspect of racing or drifting. Drag is a different animal because it is such a short duration event, so smaller wheels would certainly be better for that. And guys, educate.... don't hate. :rawk:

^^^

ok dude. you really need to stop typing.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

ok, lets disregard your comment about trying to compare f1 wheel sizes to production street cars, because i dont want to have an annurism right now by explaining how awesomley retarded/uneducated that statment is.

why is tire deflection irrelevant on a real race car? that makes no sense.
s13s have poor suspension travel? any idiot with dual height adjustable coilovers can set a car up to have full suspension travel. dont droop the spring and youre good. again, your comment makes no sense.
have you ever seen touring cars. DTM series. le mans. jgtc. porsche cups. blah blah blah. TONS of race cars utilize 18, 19 inch wheels. the reasons have absolutley nothing to do with any of the crap you are sputtering in your post.
again, s14s have less suspension travel in the front? compared to what? on what shocks? what the hell are you talking about?

if your tires rub on your fenders and chop up your harness, you need to learn somthing about wheel fitment. i cant help you with that. i tuck tread on 18s in front, no rub, no harness damage. and yes. more expensive tires. i can deffinitley see why that would be a concern of yours, looking at your car pic in your sig. stock bumper, skirts, rice wing, mismatched panels, mismatched wheels, you deffinitley look like a performance minded individual.

[McRussellPants]

this car:
[IG]http://www.uras.o.jp/urashp/parts/s14_b_f.png[/IMG]
the same as this car:
[IM]http://memiage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2297000-2297999/2297085_1_full.jpg[/IMG]

i rarely share my opinion on this site, because i frequently get shitted on for doing so.

Shocking.

Sexy Style/Works 9 FTW, end of fucking story

Fixed, because nobody can honestly like MISMATCHED OEM.

[lucky7]

i would prefer the stock sides on that car, but the front and rear are fine. anything is better than that uras garbage.

best bet is to leave it stock and add a lip. thats the best look, hands down. not to mention you dont look like a tool that way.

oh cute. neg reps. really cute. what a joke.

[dct223]

i would prefer the stock sides on that car, but the front and rear are fine. anything is better than that uras garbage.

best bet is to leave it stock and add a lip. thats the best look, hands down. not to mention you dont look like a tool that way.

oh cute. neg reps. really cute. what a joke.

ugh stay on topic.... this is about lowering cars not about ur god damn taste in what u think is the perfect aero for u to :wackit: all over... damn..

aero has nothing to do with how ur car performs, wheels, tires, and suspension do

[lucky7]

i did not start the aero bashing. and thats fine, im finished anyhow.

[WILDACEX187]

do you guys that lower your car so much get alot of fender linning rubbing in the front?

[that180guy]

^^ fender liner doesnt exist on alot of our cars. . . .

[FRpilot]

fender liner.. whats that?

[WILDACEX187]

wont shit get fukked up under there if u dont have it? i mean water, debris and stuff like that wont that cause trouble? reason i ask is cuz i just went a little lower in the front and im starting to rub the lining when i turn. will the linning rubbing against the tire do any damage to the tire?

[dct223]

ur fender liner will be eaten away by your tire, the plastic wont hurt your tire if thats what ur trying to think.... o.O

i have ran no fender lining on my car in the rain and everything else the road has.. everything is fine...

[SimpleS14]

Well...your engine bay does get quite dirty without the fender liner. I've been meaning to put mine back on and "trim" it for awhile..but too lazy.

[WILDACEX187]

its not terrible. just when turning. going straight is fine. also i have tein super streets. i think they're not dual height adjustable. how low will they allow me to go till pre-load becomes apparent?

[meatish]

wow i havent had fender liner for about 3 years. I wonder if thats why the entire underside of my engine is covered with shit mud.
Can we do a scientific study of this?

[thejapino]

:loco: this thread is WEAK!!! so i guess now, somebody with alot more posts than me is gonna get on me for saying this thread is weak just cuz i have >20 posts. :x:

[DrtyRat]

:loco: this thread is WEAK!!! so i guess now, somebody with alot more posts than me is gonna get on me for saying this thread is weak just cuz i have >20 posts. :x:
No somebody will get on you cuz > = greater than...but yeah this thread has turned to poo-poo

[topsecretgold]

i would and will until you post action shots. all you do is hate in the for sale forum and randomly insert pictures of that grocery getter in threads it doesn't belong in. wow, a dumped thread, perfect opportunity for you to show off your mismatched wheels and horrible tastes in aero!!!!
yeah...im sure everyone would agree Nissan JDM OEM aero is in bad taste...i think you are all alone on that one...and if you dont like it thats fine, i get compliments every day. Are you hating on me because i like my car?? Last time i checked i never said anything rude to you!! Well have fun being angry and starting fights but im not part of that. And for the record im buying 18's for the front. And also for the record i dont hate in the for sale section...i buy and sell stuff...thats what people do. What have you dont lately for anyone besides yourself??

[topsecretgold]

oh please... are you serious? i just saw a picture of your car... he has MUCH better taste in aero than you do (i can be an intraweb badass too). i love how people are quick to toss out the ricer card when they have no buisness using the term. i rarely share my opinion on this site, because i frequently get shitted on for doing so. fuck it. im tired of some of the people around here getting all bent out of shape all the time. ESPECIALLY when it comes to tearing people apart for their wheels. its such a fucking joke. aparently you're not cool around here if you dont have a F&F body kit and 10" wheels with a 8" lip. oh, and if you dont drift, you should sell your car so it will get 'used properly'. some of you have the maturity of an 8 year old... but whatever. im done with that rant. :fawkd:

my favorite car in this whole thread is the black kouki with the lip and the welds (the slammed car thread). thats good taste right there. :naughty: congrats to that owner for having the balls to form his own opinion of what is fun in a car. +1 more for having bigger balls and posting pictures on this site.
thank you!! at least its nice to see that some of the people here are nice and dont talk shit all the time. Everyone should do their own thing and not hate on others for taking pride in their cars.

[topsecretgold]

That's definately not "max dumped"... :keke:
its maxxed on tein he coilovers...yes maybe something else would go lower.

[dct223]

ahahha how cute...

[chmercer]

its maxxed on tein he coilovers...yes maybe something else would go lower.

no it isnt. ill bet you 50 bucks you still have all the lock perches on the front and arent drooping spring in the rear.

[Johny5]

easy charlie, he shouldn't go any lower, he gets compliments enough already as it is! everytime he parks in the kroger's parking lot grandma's and other tasteless human beings alike gawk at his epitome of mainstream s14 modification.

[topsecretgold]

Ahhh...jealousy rears its ugly head...dont knock it just cuz u aint got it.

[SimpleS14]

I forsee a closing to this thread....

[chmercer]

Ahhh...jealousy rears its ugly head...dont knock it just cuz u aint got it.

if i wanted stock nissan panels i would build a time machine to 10 years ago and get some of that shit back when it was cool because the only other option was bone stock. theyve invented somthing called fiberglass now. it weighs less, and you can also make it into shapes cooler than thoes flacid penis zenki skirts.

guy who left me negative rep points for flaming the guy with the mismatched shit panels car with rice wing because "hes doing somthing with his car while you sit around tucking gay 18s" please dont make me whore out the pics of me drifting on the news any more than i already have, it gets tireing.

[revat619]

I forsee a closing to this thread....


And you saw right.


You kiddies are at it again. I hate this crap...its getting extremely old.


WHO GIVES A RATS ASS WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE DOES WITH THEIR OWN CAR. Bickering about it and stooping to childish name calling and crap talking is stupid. STFU. I'm sick of seeing this kinda crap on here. Some people like big wheels, some dont. Some people like flashy aero, some dont. GET THE F'ING POINT. NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO HAVE THE SAME OPINION AS YOU IN LIFE...let alone this ass hat ridden forum. If you think somebody elses set up is gay, thats fine. You're entitled to your opinion. But dont go galavanting around on here like what you think is the end all be all. News flash you ass tards: People have been modding these cars in japan WAY before ANY OF US. So everybody on here is an F'ING BITER. Get over yourselves. Whether you like simple or extreme or somewhere in the middle, whether you like super low or just average or stock, crazy wheels or conservative. i dont care. Its your car. Do whatever the hell you want. But the bashing of other members "just because" needs to stop.