View Full Version : Which one would you choose
jabbadeznuts
05-28-2002, 06:13 AM
Well, the time has come to make a decision about a car. My options are a 1987 RX-7 Turbo II, a 240SX, or a late 80s - early 90s Supra turbo. I know it's gonna be difficult to get a non bias opinion, but please try. lolz.
Thanks, Alex
drifterX87
05-28-2002, 06:50 AM
I am having the same problem minus the RX-7.
Mike
Zemus
05-28-2002, 07:15 AM
Both of you should forget the supra idea, their kinda dumb IMO, and out of those 3 eather get a RX7 or a 240, but why not get an 86 Toyota Corolla, i found a GTS for 1800 and that includes 2 cars (ones a parts car, ones a fixer upper) which is way awesome, I love the ae86 for drifting, i might make it my winter car, cuz i dont want to hurt my 240 (its like my small child) and i wouldent mind hurting the ae86, i could pratice drifting in it, like Drifter X did from Singnal, he started out on a AE86 and eventualy got a 180SX with the S15, MM that car owns, but anyways, get a AE86, they are awesome
aqwkmf
05-28-2002, 08:56 AM
1. RX-7 Unique, fast, true sports
2. MKIII Supra Turbo Easy to make run 12's. Kinda Square.
3. 240sx I dont know? its RWD thats why i got one. plus theres no good rx-7s or supra around here.
Broadwayblues
05-28-2002, 09:02 AM
Get the 7. I would. I had a first gen 82, and had a friend with a second gen like the one that you are looking at. Man I love those cars. It's just a little more hassle to get aftermarket parts. come to think of it it's a pain to get parts for the 240. I tell you that you are starting with more car to work with and I think that the 7 is just better looking too. Take it from someone that has had both cars-I still miss my RX-7!
DrDubbleB
05-28-2002, 10:24 AM
I'd get the 240sx honestly. The RX-7 has issues, and you can't count on a shop to do good reliable work on it, since it's rotary (unless of course they specialize in them like Peter Farells does out here). I wouldn't consider a Supra (personally) unless it was a MKIV...
If you do plan to use it for drifting, then why not get an 86? They are hella cheap and good cars to learn on...
S13Grl
05-28-2002, 10:38 AM
Just get the 240. Supra and the RX will probably have waaaaaaaaaay more maintenance issues that you will NOT want to deal with. They're really hard to find in a good condition. At least in my area...
Firelance
05-28-2002, 01:59 PM
heck, whichever one you don't buy let me know and i'll buy the other one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
I'm actually surprised that this many people suggested the other cars. If you can maintain the RX-7, I'd say get that one since I think they are just cool and can have great power potential.
rotaryknight
05-28-2002, 02:42 PM
Depends what you want out of the car. 240sx have great potential. The 2nd gen Rx-7 TII is a fun car also. I had a TII for about a month fun car..you have to reallly run a full exhasut eliminating the cat to get true Rotary power out of it.
Problem with that you run in to smog issues. The FC TII that i drove had a complete KnightSports exhuast which is all the way out. Car was fun but the FC was not really considered a true sports car till the FD.
You can find some decent condition FC TII but I would seriously expect to have money on the side for a new motor or repairing the turbo. They are not as bad as FD but watch out.
As far as 240sx go I bought one as my daily driver and have my SR waiting to be installed. The 240sx can be made with a SR or Turbo KA to be a fun car to drive.
Ni5mo180SX
05-28-2002, 02:45 PM
Ive owned a 240 and now I have a FC (RX7). They're both really similar in terms of handling. The FC is a little shorter then the fastback S13 and the chassis is a little stiffer on the 7. The S13 had better handling feedback though since the FC is equipped with passive rear wheel steering which makes it a little tough to realize your back ends out. Its hard to make a fair comparision though since the 240 had handling mods and the FC's stock for now. My FCs NA so I dont have massive reliability issues but its similar to the 240s. But I still get that feeling that my 240 was unrightfully taken from me every time I see one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> Otherwise they're very evenly matched up and either would make a good buy.
nrcooled
05-28-2002, 02:51 PM
I was considering getting the FC but I don't know jack about fixing a rotary engine. Horsepower and reliability don't go hand in hand I don't care what kind of car you have.
jabbadeznuts
05-28-2002, 07:28 PM
This is going to be a daily driver. It's gonna get about 60 miles a day, maby more. The point is that it needs to be reliable. Also, I don't want to invest thousands to get it to meet emissions, but I would br willing to get a turbo kit.
silviasichigo
05-28-2002, 07:48 PM
If you want long term reliability stay away from the rotary engine. It is a damn good engine don't get me wrong but (track runs) it does tend to have a trouble streak. I have been around rotary engines for the past 6 years and I have watched these same engines fail. (Due to high abuse) But even so my Friend carl bought his 92 off the lot with only one previous owner and if it was not popping a code for fuel, it was for Electrical, Or O2, You name it, it happened, (Murphy's Law)
Supra is a little more reliable but none the less it is know for electrical problems (At least over here) I say only say the 240 because it is so easy to work on. A lot of do it yourself stuff comes into play. If you get a shop manual it is gold. You can do anything to the right Specs. I am not being bias I have owned two of the three and basically own the third now. (RX7) Green 92 FD I was talking about above.
Your choice But I say Look at your Options and the condition of the particular car you are looking at and Make the decision based on the facts and history of the car.
Ni5mo180SX
05-28-2002, 09:33 PM
I dont know, those earlier Supras were notorious for blowing head gaskets. When I worked at toyota we had one almost every week/every other week for that problem and its shitty replacing it the first couple times.
jabbadeznuts
05-29-2002, 06:12 AM
Like I said on the 240 forums..... this has to be able to sufice as a daily driver. It would get 60+ miles a day and would also be a part time autocross/drift/and a little bit of drag car. It's gotta be versatile. However, the drift part is most important. With either car I would end up getting a Tein suspension package. The type RA http://www.teinusa.com/ (http://www.teinusa.com) This car has also got to sort of a beater. I'm looking for a car with potnetial for under $5000
. I know it's asking alot, but price is the main concern. I just got a job and I don't want to spend every penny on a car or getting a broke ass car to work. I't rather buy a car that will run and is RELIABLE and then put in the cash to make it great. Did anybody think of an AE86? (Corolla GTS) Cheap, good drifter, FR, anybody had any experience?
mistert
05-31-2002, 08:28 PM
i would say the tII, but if the 240 was an s14, i would think the 240. the TII over an s13 because you get an engine which already has the power and ability to make more cheaper than an SR, already in the car, which is also relatively cheap to replace (That's the good thing about the fact that they tend to blwo). they arent horribly unreliable, as long as they are properly mantained. while it may seem intimidating, i understand they're alot easier and simpler to work on than most normal piston-engined cars, when you're doing work on the engine yourself (ALOT less things to pull apart)
they're all great cars. and yes if it was an MKIV supra you could get gobs of easy power and still have drivability and good reliability, but im not so sure about an MK3, since they're beginning to get old...
KiDyNomiTe
05-31-2002, 10:59 PM
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I have the same dilemna, don't know anything about rotary engines. If I did, believe me I would get the RX-7. Plus I will be moving soon and driving quite a bit every day to school and don't want to put an RX-7 through that much stress.
Ni5mo180SX
06-01-2002, 12:09 AM
When looking for the FD I realized the same thing, I needed more exp. So I picked up an N/A FC to learn everything on and its helped a lot. I wasn't too fond of it at first but I like it a lot more now (after cleaning out the ports and regaining some hp)
blaqsilvia
06-01-2002, 10:03 AM
I recommend the 240sx.. Anything else may end up in expensive repairs... my friend owned the supra from that generation and it had so many repairs and problems- he junked it... the rx7 I haven't heard much since I have yet to make friends or meet someone with one... so I would recommend the 240 since it very reliable- quick and Rwd! ..
my 2 cents <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>
drift freaq
06-01-2002, 10:59 AM
S13 hatch over a 2 gen RX7 the 2 gen RX looks like its trying to be a 944 hahaha.
I like the looks of the S13 hatch much better than a FC. IMHO
Nissans are more realiable cars than Mazda's hands down . Mazda has only recently become a lot more reliable IMHO.
Now if you are talking about an FD in sheer looks it is much sexier and I have always wanted one. In terms of engine life though they suck.
Oh well all I can say is the only RX to buy is the FD and then be prepared to replace the engine every 3-5 years.
"Which one would you choose"
Well, I'm on zilvia.net and I drive an s14. Your surrounded people who have already choosen...
You say this
"Did anybody think of an AE86? (Corolla GTS) Cheap, good drifter, FR, anybody had any experience?"
and this
"I just got a job and I don't want to spend every penny on a car or getting a broke ass car to work."
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> I wouldn't go ae86...15years old = broke ass car
NO CARRIER
06-09-2002, 07:21 AM
I've went through 2 RX7's.... if it's a 2nd Generation, don't bother unless you don't mind putting constant money into it.
If it's a newer Rx7.. then definately go with that.
Supera?... you kidding?
240 would be the best choice financially.
240 2NR
06-10-2002, 04:05 PM
Honestly, this was my dilemma and it always came back to reliability. It was between a 240, early M3, 80's 911, 944S, 928, subaru 2.5rs (too expensive) and most seriously an FD (notice a rwd trend here). As much as I wanted it (and I really did want it) the FD just couldn't be considered a reliable or fiscally responsible car. Having said that I still REALLY want one, but at the same time I REALLY love my 240. It still pleasantly surprises me when I take a corner quickly, and I come out realizing I should have gone in even quicker (and that will soon be even quicker once my konis and whiteline springs, sways, and bushings go in). It's definetely a good place to start.
In the year and 14k miles I've owned it I haven't had one mechanical problem <knocks on wood>, and the previous owner could only think of a bad injector from the 9 years and 47k miles he owned. I think that kind of speaks for itself.
RubbaBurna1017
06-10-2002, 05:07 PM
Oki this is just my personal opinion, and from my own experience. I used to own a 1992 MKIII Toyota Supra Turbo, which I swapped a 1JZ-GTE into. I did basic bolt on's, FMIC, fuel pump, metal HG (worst thing on MKIII's) 18's, 650 injectors, Pistons, rings, rods, Full exhaust, Upgraded turbo's and a 75 shot, and I was keepin up with and doggin many of the big head supras in my area which are all running 12 or under, and this is on 18 PSI. So all I can say is that the Supra is a better buy, and did I mention that I did all the work for under 10K
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