which would you do first? Sus. mod? or motor??

[boombockz]

which 1 would you do honestly ! sus. or motor first ?? and the car is running ..which would you do , because im not sure which 1 i should do! thanks alot .. for your input

[shawn_16]

i would do suspension first

[McRussellPants]

Suspension FTW.


240SX stock suspension blows, after driving on Z brakes and coils anything else makes me want to kick a puppy.

The motor can wait.

[big_schaf]

footwork defently, the motor can wait, where as brakes and suspension cant for drifting or hard abuse

[sideview_180sx]

Power is nothing without control. You figure it out.

[Irukandji]

hmm seeing that I still have a KA, and I'm broke.... suspension first....

[2iv0 sx]

What everyone else said above... I saving money for coilovers right now. Blown shocks are hating my neck!!! :Ownedd:

My KA still pushing strong another motor can wait till then.

[JaeTea]

hmm seeing that I still have a KA, and I'm broke.... suspension first....

+1

:Ownedd:

[boombockz]

thanks fellows i mean , the s&*% was in my head like which should i do first, so i thought i get some input from you guyz ! thanks ..once again lol

[TheTimanator]

personally I did it the other way around...motor first. But my KA was dead. I recently installed coilovers and I wish that I had gotten them sooner.

So I agree with everyone else...suspension first!

[boombockz]

cool! im gonna do sus. def. lol but okay i know im gonna do coils but what else should i add to that ? arms or what ?? i mean , im gonna do all of this myself but this is gonna be my first nissian! ive owned 3 previous hondas so im not new to this car stuff but thanks for the input once again guys ..i want a coupe but i might end up with a hatch lol will see though

[blu808]

Weld locd NSD, Coilovers, tie rods, and tension rods.

[ayuaddict]

larger diameter anti-roll bars will have the most effect on handling.

[TheTimanator]

adjustable tension rods (the facotry bushings are usually crap)
tie rods (these tend to break)
Rear upper control arm aka RUCA's (to adjust camber when you lower the rear)
to go along with the coilovers....

check out splparts.com

if you get coilovers don't worry about strut bars, upgraded sway bars etc. Also, although not suspension related, get an LSD. You won't regret it.

[TiNMAN]

what the hell are you building your car for?

[EchoOfSilence]

pretty much what Timanator said.

but i'd like to add....
BUSHINGS. these cars are fucking OLD and rubber bushings WEAR. Try to replace ALL of them. Now, depending on what you want to do, you can replace them with either

1) OE rubber bushings [some race-sanctioning bodies require stock or stock-like bushings]
2) Polyurethane [allowed by most bodies in lower classes]
or 3) pillowball/spherical ball and aluminum bushings for the all-out warrior if you aren't looking to please someone's rules and are just going out there. This isn't legal until pretty high classes ( SCCA's SM, NASA has different classification rules) Most drifters go this route, as you don't need to be put in classes.

Have Fun!


EDIT:
Maybe you aren't looking into either of these? In which case for a comfy daily driver just get Nismo bushings or maybe polyU. But if you wanna be hardcore the harder shit will be less comfy but more solid

[NemeGuero]

Take it from someone who did POWER first..

SUSPENSION!!

[ranisron]

amen, suspension please... you would end up killing yourself with a good motor on a POS stock suspension...

AND TIRES, PLEASE....

[NemeGuero]

Yah Ka-t sucks on 205s

[HaLo]

Take it from someone who did POWER first..

SUSPENSION!!


+1

I have to agree with that statement!!!

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To give an idea what I am doing with my newly aquired 96 S14 SE...

Suspension & Brakes first...

First thing I did was fix what was blown: Front Tension Rod Bushings / Shocks... So I installed:

NISMO S14 G-Attack Shock & Spring Kit
KAZAMA Tension Rods
NISMO Power Brace (while doing the Tension Rods might was well)

Brakes are almost gone, so just waiting for my brake kit to come in: Stop Tech 13" 4 Pot Front / 12.9" 2 Pot Rear to go with my Z32 Brake master cylinder and booster. Will be replacing the the stock wheels since they wont clear with a few different options im going back and forth between now...

Next week will be installing:

KAZAMA Rear Camber / Rear Toe / Rear Traction arms

Then a few other NISMO arms to replace any non-adjustable ones to make more rigid... Still debaiting on which sways to go with...

Mine is a AT, so my MT parts are on the way...

Once my suspension / brakes / manual swap is done and handling is there... Ill concentrate on go fast... Then switch to a full race coilover set up...

My plan for what its worth if anything...

[Ricks15]

LSD,Suspension,brakes

[jobestudios]

my modding is based on whatever breaks first...

[infinitexsound]

suspension>tires>brakes>motor(power)>and then looks

[boombockz]

suspension>tires>brakes>motor(power)>and then looks

i like this lol but yea guyz .. im just trying to build this thing for daily driver and track and drift car ! i cant wait lol .. and its like i hear alot of people sometimes get power first and dont do suspension first ! its like huh? thats seems like going backwards too me , but to each his is own! i guess after coils and bushes and tie rods, etc ! next will be 5 lug and brakes ..just gotta make sure that motor holds up lol

[NemeGuero]

Well tune-up is important. Healthy motor = priority 1. But KA has more than enough power. If someone argues, they don't know how to drive.

But before adding turbo or going SR or RB or CA... you should have good suspension and everything else following infinitexsound's list.

[ALTRNTV]

Suspension!

Read this thread as reference. Evan, remember this thread? LOL

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=102366

[NemeGuero]

Suspension!

Read this thread as reference. Evan, remember this thread? LOL

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=102366


God, that dude was thick-headed. Hahahaha.

[sunnys14]

suspension + brakes PLEASE. tiny POS stock 240 brakes and soft suspension suck ass if ur gonna push alot of power...

[aznpoopy]

figure out what you want to do with the car before you start throwing parts on it.

for instance, if you want to autox competitively, throwing on coilovers and adjustable suspension arms is going to bump you into an extremely unfavorable solo II class for a stock powered 240sx.

[boombockz]

what would you prefer for auto x just curious ? because i wouldnt mind have a drifter and auto x car ! but yea i read that thread guyz lol good and funny stuff ! :bigok:

[aznpoopy]

that depends on what autox class you want to run in. different classes have different limitations on modifications.

[chuy]

Suspension its fun to whip on Porshes and other exotics, especially when they ask what youve done to it.

[m072514]

fix your broken shit, then suspension, brakes, lsd, and then power... like they said before: power is nothing without control...

[OptionZero]

upgrade the driver: seat, helmet
fix the car: maintenance
read
read
read
go to events
talk to others
read
read
read

come back then and tell US what you WILL do instead of asking US what you SHOULD do.

[boombockz]

option Zero ! def lol man , but i already had in mine what i was gonna do , and believe over the years ive been reading and looking @ this site ! so i already know sus. was key from the get go ! but one of my local friends was just telling that i should do Motor first because SR's are getting hard to get or w/e ! but anywho this guy doesnt drift or really track his car but he def. has plenty experience in doing the swap and etc. dealing with Nissan's in general but yea .. so there forth im just gonna go with my first plan and thats get sus. mods and brake upgrades! i was just really trying to get opinions from people or there input! like if you could go back to when you first got your car which would you do type thing ?? got me .. thats all just really seeing what people had to say ! but once again thanks for the input guyz preciate all and im here to learn more :bigok:

[boombockz]

option Zero ! def lol man , but i already had in mine what i was gonna do , and believe over the years ive been reading and looking @ this site ! so i already know sus. was key from the get go ! but one of my local friends was just telling that i should do Motor first because SR's are getting hard to get or w/e ! but anywho this guy doesnt drift or really track his car but he def. has plenty experience in doing the swap and etc. dealing with Nissan's in general but yea .. so there forth im just gonna go with my first plan and thats get sus. mods and brake upgrades! i was just really trying to get opinions from people or there input! like if you could go back to when you first got your car which would you do type thing ?? got me .. thats all just really seeing what people had to say ! but once again thanks for the input guyz preciate all and im here to learn more :bigok:

[jobestudios]

sr's are going to get more expensive because of ff3, but they wont be "harder' to find.

[ranisron]

learn how to write words in paragraphs... my eyes are hurting.

I did not ask anyone what I should do when I first got my 240SX. Basically, replace all the worn out parts, and try to learn the basic dynamics of the 240SX. I am not sure what kind of cars you used to have, but I came from FWD flatform (U13 Altima, and short period of RWD AE86), so it was quite an experience. At least I didn't wreck the 240SX.

Many members have answered your questions (many times), so read, learn, drive and replace parts.

Good luck.

[Maeda]

LSD LSD LSD LSD LSD LSD LSD LSD LSD LSD
I can't emphasize that enough.
Coilovers are next.

Drift car = save your money and learn to drive. Then spend your money on tires and fixing you're broken car (after you thrash the hell out of it on the track).

[fatalfury64]

Definitly suspension

[Juujai]

if this is a regular car thats not drift then i'd do shocks/springs(minimum) or coilovers, sway bars, wider wheels and tires. stock brakes are decent with better pads like h4s/hps and a fresh flush. then after that going any route doesn't matter.

power first is ok though since a stock sr or mild ka-t isn't a lot of hp. thats how they come from japan crappy stock suspension with sr.

if drift lsd, coilovers, bucket seat, spl tie rods/tcs when stock goes... lol

[KA24DESOneThree]

Suspension, obviously.

If you know my car, you know that I have $350 in engine mods and more than 20 times that in suspension.

[jp.drifter.240sx]

my modding is based on whatever breaks first...

i would recomened you learn how to drive the car the way it is. after getting use to it then upgrade suspention, brakes, lsd, and then add an exhaust so that you can listen to the rmps on what ever engine your running aka sr, ca, rb, and or ka.

so sr's are popular nowadays. but really drifting is not about what engine your running or how much horespower your making. the more hp you have the lazier a drifter gets compared to running low hp engine.

not to bragg or any of that nonsence. i lived in japan for 2 1/2 years.

started drifting the popular corolla (hatchi-go/ae85-86) then moved on to a full size car 4 door sedan toyota chaser. big diference in power. easier to drift. but yes. suspention is a must before you gain more hp.