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s13driver
05-23-2002, 04:09 PM
well like the topic saids how to setup a good .. decent.. nice car stero/sounds system.. ?
i would like to know
1. the type of amp.. what are they for.. and when i m looking for 1 what should i be consider ? and what are those 2 channel... multi channel... mono subwoofer amp means ?
2. type of speaker... their size.. depth ? 2 way ... 3 way.. 4 way... n etc.. what does each of them means ?
3. type of subwoofer ? how can i select wisely ?
4. do i need a better battery since the sound system might suck up all the power ?
would somebody mind to answer all of my questions ? i know that i might also leave some question that i should ask.. but if you don mind give me all the infos that i need .. it'll be very helpful to me ..
thanks in advance !!
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edit : i have a 92 fastback btw with those active speaker... and a kenwood mp3 receiver.

misnomer
05-23-2002, 05:25 PM
Wow, hehe, very new to car audio <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Anyhow:

1. Amps are commonly rated two ways, power and channels. It works by taking sound coming into it, boosting the signal and sending it on to speakers. This basically puts more power to the speakers giving louder music. Amps are measured in wattage output, most aftermarket speakers are between 40 and 100 watts, you want an amp at or below the speaker level (but not too far below, or you lose bass). Subs will typically be rated 100 watts and up to crazy ass numbers. Same rules apply here for choosing an amp. When looking at power, focus on the RMS rating, peak handling is nowhere near as important. The same here applies to speakers.. The number of channels is basically how many speakers it was designed to drive. Mono would be used for a sub, two channel for a pair of speakers (or bridged to a sub as a mono), and four channel to drive four speakers. &nbsp;It is fairly common to use a four channel amp to drive the front speakers and bridge to a sub in a budget setup. All in all, an external amp will put out more power and typically sound better than the amp built into your deck. Keep in mind this doesn't matter unless you are getting new speakers, further amping the stock speakers WILL blow them. In addition, if you get aftermarket speakers, you will want to find a way to bypass the factory amps, they cut the power coming into them to 5 watts for the factory speakers and will cripple the potential of your speakers.

2. A '92 fastback has 4x6 speakers all around. If you want something that wont require modification, stick with this size. If you don't mind modifying, &nbsp;you can fairly easily stick a 6.5" speaker up front by pulling out the OEM speaker baffle and replace it with some 1/4" mdf or plywood. The number of "ways" a speaker is rated is essentially the number of speakers. Factory is a single full range woofer. Two way (Coaxial) is a woofer and &nbsp;tweeter. Three way (triaxial) is typically a woofer, tweeter, and supertweeter. Four way is typically a woofer, midrange, tweeter, and supertweeter (quite uncommon). You will also come across component speakers, which will have a woofer and separate tweeter with a crossover. The crossover splits the high frequencies to the tweeters and the lows to the woofers. Components typically give the best sound, though will usually need to be powered by a bigger amp.

3. There's really only one type of subwoofer. The size, power, etc all depend on how you like your music. Smaller subs can hit fast beats better than big ones, but won't give you long drawn out booms. A 10" sub seems to be a happy median, but it all depends on the music you listen too. Higher power subs typically feed you louder and harder booms.

4. Battery doesn't mean anything unless it doesn't hold a charge anymore. Amps draw power directly from the batter, but the load all falls on the alternator to keep the battery charged. If you are running y our battery dead with your music, you need a more potent alternator. I honestly don't know what the stock alternator can handle, though I've run a 300 watt (RMS) system on it just fine.

That said, here's my system: Kenwood four channel head unit (22 watts per channel RMS), Infinity Kappa 6.5" components up front, Kappa 4x6 plate speakers in the rear, and a Sony 10" subwoofer running off of a 150 watt Kenwood amp. I primarily listen to rock, so my system works out fairly well. My next addition will be to amp my front speakers, as my current setup has no midbass (22 watts going to 90 watt speakers basically only gives the the high end notes <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>).

To put on the 6.5" speakers, I needed to make a baffle board out of 1/4" plywood (as I described earlier). Definitely bypass the amps with aftermarket speakers, I noticed a big improvement in sound when I did on my rear speakers (fronts were installed bypassed.

Feel free to add or correct to my statements, and no there aren't any cliff notes.

Russki
05-23-2002, 05:33 PM
My setup: Panasonic 50Wx4 mp3cd player/reciever, boston acoustics component speakers (component speaker=midrange and tweeter separate, not in the same cone) in a 4x6 frame for front and rear, 750W 5-channel amp (4 channels for speakers and 1 for subwoofer), 10" kenwood subwoofer.
This setup isn't too impresive, but I love it, very clear sound through the component speakers and just enough bass with the 10" woofer.
I don't know much about this stuff, but I learned a lot through the guy I bought everything from at Audio King. &nbsp;I'll try to answer what I know.
1. Amps are for amplifying the current from your deck to your speakers or subwoofer. &nbsp;Your mp3 reciever most likely has about 50Watts divided into 4 channels (one for each speaker), the amp, depending on the size, would add to the watts so you will have louder and clearer sound. &nbsp;The channels on an amp are just outputs, mono subwoofer amp is just one channel used only for a subwoofer.
2. If your car has the same speakers as mine does ('90 fastback) than you can fit 4x6" speakers in there. &nbsp;Most people, including myself would tell you that component speakers are the only way to go. &nbsp;Instead of being a 2 or 3 or even 4 way speakers, they have the midrange (bigger outside part) and the tweeter (smaller inside part) of the speakers separate for the clearest possible sound. &nbsp;I totally recommend going with a brand name component speaker.
3. The subwoofer is totally for preference, if you want just a little more base, get an 8 or 10", if you want your car to be falling apart and blowing windows, get a 12" or a 15", you may also have multiple subwoofers, as i said, whatever you want.
4. Unless you are going to go with a monster setup or play your music with the car off a lot, you don't need to change to a different battery.
My suggestion: find a car audio store, and a good salesman that you trust, and they will answer and provide you with everything that you need, that's what I did.
I am just a beginner considering this car audio stuff, but I learned a lot while deciding on different stuff for my car.
By the way, you may end up spending over $1000 on an ok system, so know what you're getting in to before you start ordering stuff, mine cost about $1500, but I was prepared for it. &nbsp;HAPPY LISTENING <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Russki
05-23-2002, 05:34 PM
damn, beat me to it, misnomer <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

s13driver
05-23-2002, 06:46 PM
is it really necessay to install a sub ? i've once sat inside of a maxima with a bose system.. and it sounds so nice.. i wonder what kind of setup are those ? and also is it possible to get after market bose speaker for cars ? do they have an amp in the car ? o yea... the maxima was complete stock btw .. what i really want is some thing as close as the maxima... can you guys recommand a setup ?

thanks misnomer and Russki for your great help &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

Russki
05-23-2002, 07:35 PM
I work for Infiniti, and I believe the I35 is the equivalent of the Maxima. &nbsp;They use the component setup that I talked about, clearly a wise decision. &nbsp;They have the 6x9" (i'm totally guessing) in the door panels and a tweeter somewhere higher, forgot the exact location. &nbsp;The reason that you wouldn't really need a subwoofer for that, is because the Bose 6x9" speakers provide a lot of base compared to what you may be able to fit into the 240sx without major modification. &nbsp;The amp is a must, you will not be able to hear your speakers' full range without one. &nbsp;At least get a 200W 4 channel amp, that should be plenty for the bose speakers that you will be putting in. &nbsp;Ofcourse they make aftermarket bose speakers, and the Maxima more than likely has a factory amp in the car. &nbsp;Go shop around and learn, ask the same questions you asked here to a professional car audo guy, I had very good experience with Audio King. &nbsp;But make sure that you find out and understand what you are doing and plan the whole thing out before spending a penny, or you may regret it.

guidot
05-23-2002, 08:35 PM
Note on battery/alternator setup:
I am running a 22x4 (RMS) Sony and a RF 360a2 (rated for 425rms...thats what it says on the spec sheet!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> on the stock alternator with no problems. &nbsp;I have had it on while detailing my car for 2 hours with no start up issues at all.
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aricanderson
05-23-2002, 09:44 PM
I just got a 89 nissan hatchback about five months ago. &nbsp;I just pulled my system from my cavalier and put it into this car. &nbsp;Its has a 1100 watt MTX Splash Series Amp pushing two 12" Rockford Fosgate subwoofers in a box. &nbsp;Plus their is a Capacitor connected to the power wire in between the battery and the amp. &nbsp;Thus allowing enough power for the subs without taking it away from the car's electrical system. &nbsp;It runs fine with the stock alternator although I had to buy a new battery with more cranking amps though, since the last that came with the car was dead. &nbsp;In addition, it had a jensen cd player that came with the car pushing the stock speakers. &nbsp;Wow hehehe. &nbsp;I'll probably change the head unit and speaker out soon though. &nbsp;So instead of getting a battery if you don't have to look into buying a capacitor to store charge for the amp.

Balboa
05-23-2002, 10:54 PM
I used to own a '98 Maxima GLE equipped with the BOSE system. Yes, it is awesome =). Anyway, BOSE does not make universal car audio equipment. Only for the manufactures that request it. I believe my Maxima had two 1" tweeters up front, 6" mids in the doors, and 6"x9"ers in the rear deck (all stock BOSE). The BOSE systems are also nice because each 6"x9" speaker has its own amp, and they have an internal fuse that will blow before you run enough power to blow the speaker itself, so you don't have to worry that turning the volume up all the way will cripple your system <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>