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Cramadon02
02-15-2006, 12:04 PM
I need new rotors and a big brake kit is out of the question as is a Z32 conversion simply b/c i don't have the money for it. I was looking at a set of slotted replacements by brembo in addition to some high quality pads. I only plan on occasional track time and canyon runs. Am I right in thinking that stopping ability won't improve with these rotors and that they would only help with reducing brake fade? Are they even worth it at all or should i just worry about getting OEM brakes and just some high quality pads?

Dousan_PG
02-15-2006, 12:12 PM
brembo only makes blanks they are slotted by another company usually
get good pads, ss lines good fluid and your golden.

gearhead290
02-15-2006, 12:26 PM
I agree with Dousan, nice pads and lines are the way to go. I had some nice Powerslot II rotors on my last car...just makes you that much more mad when you crack $200 worth of rotors over the $40 parts house ones I was cracking.

www.rockauto.com, I got my rotors for my 5 lug from them...$80 shipped

Neejay
02-15-2006, 12:38 PM
brembo only makes blanks they are slotted by another company usually
get good pads, ss lines good fluid and your golden.Dont mean to threadjack, but:

The question is are brembo blanks worth it over regular auto part store rotors?

I need some new rotors anyway, and the cheapest I've found brembo blanks are $61 with tax (in town). I think the auto store rotors go for around $20, so its like an extra $20 for brembos.

Maeda
02-15-2006, 12:45 PM
I don't feel a difference between brembo and 20$ made in china....

OptionZero
02-15-2006, 12:50 PM
I need new rotors and a big brake kit is out of the question as is a Z32 conversion simply b/c i don't have the money for it. I was looking at a set of slotted replacements by brembo in addition to some high quality pads. I only plan on occasional track time and canyon runs. Am I right in thinking that stopping ability won't improve with these rotors and that they would only help with reducing brake fade? Are they even worth it at all or should i just worry about getting OEM brakes and just some high quality pads?


Actual stopping power is related to tire compound/sizing, alignment, and pad compound.

Larger rotors, slotting, and cross drilling have nothing to do with actually stopping the car; larger rotors mean more surface area meaning more heat dissapation, slotting is purportedly for cooling purposes, although I have heard and tend to believe that all it does is reduce surface area, resulting in little actual help in cooling...drilling is for water evacuation, *not* cooling (ask Porsche).

You can get away with better pads, lines, bleed and replace fluid...and get better tires.

aznpoopy
02-15-2006, 12:55 PM
brembo blanks aren't much more expensive then '$20 chinese rotors'

5lug $22F / $22R per rotor
4lug $30F / $40R per rotor

www.nopionline.com

personally, i don't mind spending $10 extra bucks to get 4 brembos over brand x autozone rotors.

slotted is a waste of cash. buying rotors from the dealer is also a huge waste of cash. just get blanks, aggressive street pads, new lines, and flush your fluid.

Neejay
02-15-2006, 01:10 PM
brembo blanks aren't much more expensive then '$20 chinese rotors'

5lug $22F / $22R per rotor
4lug $30F / $40R per rotor

www.nopionline.com

personally, i don't mind spending $10 extra bucks to get 4 brembos over brand x autozone rotors.

slotted is a waste of cash. buying rotors from the dealer is also a huge waste of cash. just get blanks, aggressive street pads, new lines, and flush your fluid.Yeah, thats where I found the brembos for $60 (2x front). I have SPL lines + speedbleeders, but Im waiting until I rebuild my caliper and buy rotors before installing everything (doing it all at once).

I just thought that there couldnt be that much more difference with just blank rotors, correct me if Im wrong though. (excuse the ignorance).

Cramadon02
02-15-2006, 01:20 PM
"I just thought that there couldnt be that much more difference with just blank rotors, correct me if Im wrong though. (excuse the ignorance)."

My thoughts exactly.

Cramadon02
02-15-2006, 01:24 PM
What do you guys make of stuff like this?

http://performancecenter.com/products/category_Brakes/productcategory_Brake+Rotors/searchtype_4d/sortorder_ADAA/sf1_NISSAN/sf2_1990/sf3_240SX/partnumber_BRE45317/

That a case of cashing in on a name brand?

aznpoopy
02-15-2006, 01:26 PM
i really doubt there is any difference in quality.

still, for $2 more per rotor, i decided i'd rather put brembos on my car then a brand i never heard of.

edit: those rotors that you linked are way more expensive because they are slotted and rust coated. they aren't cashing in on brand name... they're cashing in on the notion that slotted rotors are super duper godlier then regular crappy blanks.

Dousan_PG
02-15-2006, 01:42 PM
i use made in china z32 rotors
kick ass 20 bucks a pop and over 1.5 year sno warpage no problems no cracing and i track the car alot and daily drive.

i use hawk hps pads, ss lines and china rotors. schweeet setup.

the old s13 (bfore the z brakeupgrade)i think was.....hawk pads? no...something else..i forget....w/ ss lines and cheapie rotors.

Neejay
02-15-2006, 01:52 PM
Well, the chepest rotor I could find is $22.44 and the Brembo's at NOPI are $28.41....might as well go with brembo...not to mention the fact that NOPI headquarters is right down the street, literally 5 minutes. No shipping, but tax (which is still cheaper).

mellojoe
02-15-2006, 09:09 PM
High quality pads.
High quality brake fluid.
Then some stainless steel braided brake lines.
Then, choose your tires carefully next time around.

- rubber flex
- fluid boil
+ grip
+ grip
= improved braking.

Remember, braking is as only good as the contact patch touching the ground.

g6civcx
02-15-2006, 09:22 PM
I already wrote up a long post about slotted and crossdrilled. You can search this forum for it.

stu8319
02-15-2006, 09:29 PM
Are you rockin wider/bigger than stock tires? I had the stock tires with z32 breaks and all they did for me is lock the tires way faster. Make sure if you do decide to get bigger breaks to upgrade tires as well. And from what I understand the upgrade of a master cylinder will just make the brakes engage sooner in relation to the pressure on the pedal. Correct me if I am wrong!

gearhead290
02-15-2006, 10:09 PM
Shipping rotors is expensive, they're heavy. If you buy the bembos on nopi it'll probably be more like $110. I posted the link earlier in the thread, nobody paid attention, so here's a direct link for rotors starting at $10. Raybestos is a well known brake product in parts houses, they are good rotors for $11; they are the ones I bought. I paid about $80 for all 4 shipped to my door. A blank rotor is a blank rotor, it really doesn't matter. A slotted/drilled rotor is a waste, expensive rotors are nothing but expensive.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php?carcode=1209080&parttype=1896&partGroup=14&EPImodelID=14390&EPIengineID=2768

OdessaS13
02-16-2006, 12:44 AM
slotted brembos/ hawk pads your coice of HP or HPS/ and good tires
if your want to save money dont do it on brake parts

g6civcx
02-16-2006, 07:55 AM
FYI, Brembo only makes slotted OR cross-drilled, not both, for standard applications. You can get it from the factory with both but it'll have to be a special order. Plus most of Brembo stuff is manufactured in Mexico.

So chances are that you have a Brembo factory slotted or drilled disc are very slim. They do make them, but they are rare. Chances of you getting factory discs that are slotted and drilled are almost non-existent.

Keep that in mind when you buy these Brembos with slots and drills in them. 99% of the time they were done with a drill press. Search the forum and see comments about those.