Model Changes

[Loren]

I know this has to be documented somewhere but Im having problems finding the differences in JDM and ADM 240sx's/Silvia's and model changes. More specifically in the S14, especially in the headlamp changes. Did they change them in 97? Because in GT2 96's have them (I know its a video game). Also the lights look similar in the S14s unlike the S13s. Where the only differences in S14s the engines and RHD vs. LHD. Thanks.

Loren

[Aze85]

The ADM 1995-1998 240sx's have different headlights. the 95-96 240 has rounder ellpitical headlights while the 97-98 240 has headlights simila to that of the S14 in japan.
the s14's in the us got the ka24de engine while the s14 in japan got the sr20det which in my opinion is soooo much cooler.

what do u mean by rhd and lhd???

[shinigami24]

RHD= right hand drive
LHD= left hand drive

[Loren]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aze85 @ May 22 2002,8:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the 95-96 240 has rounder ellpitical headlights while the 97-98 240 has headlights simila to that of the S14 in japan.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Does "simila" mean the same??? or just kinda like them.

[SR20Fastback]

Alright S13's 89-94 (us) had pop up head lights only
S14 (95-96) both japanese and american versions had the same rounder head lights
S14A or S14MC(97-98) had the sharper looking headlights, sometimes reffered to as "shark eyes"

Difference in engines were:

America

S13(89-90) SOHC KA24E
S13(91-94) DOHC KA24DE
S14(95-98) DOHC KA24DE

Japan:

(correct me if Im wrong)

180SX (our S13 Fasback)(89-94?CA18DET?)
Later model 180's had the SR20DET
All Silvias S13-S15 had the SR20DET

[Loren]

Did they ever produce a S13 Coupe in the states?

[wherezmytofu]

lots of coupes.....ask meowth and the rest &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[guidot]

I believe that the s14 in Japan was also marketed as early as 94. &nbsp;
The lights on the JDM S14 94-96 were projector (like the 97-98) but not the "cat-eye" style. &nbsp;The lenses were also glas in Japan, not plastic &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
Hope that helps...

[uuninja]

Cosmetic differences in the s14a (97-98)

Different bumper and bumper turn signals.
Japanese and euro s14's got a rear wiper.
Japan got the Aero body kit option.
RHD VS LHD

[HippoSleek]

What a minefield of misinformation this post is.

Loren - what the hell is your problem? &nbsp;Why does it matter? &nbsp;And relying on a video game for your car information? &nbsp;Geezuz H. Christ! &nbsp;There are plenty of differences from floor mats to climate control to map lights to calipers to which friggin' side of the car you drive on. &nbsp;Good luck!

Aze - the thought that 85 might signify that you are old enough legally drive a motor vehicle in my beloved country (1985) makes me cringe in fear. &nbsp;Especially when you are so confident in something you know nothing about. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

SR20 - nice try. &nbsp;Close (and you sought correction <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'> ) the SR came in the 180 beginning in 1991.

guidot - you are right about the introduction of the s14 in 1994 (the vert only year in the US). &nbsp;But the non-usdm lights have never been projectors on Zenkis. &nbsp;Glass, yes. &nbsp;Projectors NEVER.

[mistert]

other than what everyone has listed, here the s13 coupe came with the 180sx (90-93 for this body style in japan) front end that also came on all US 91-94 240sx's. in 94 we got the convertible which is a coupe body with the 180sx front end like all other US 240sx's, a ka24de, and was converted right here in US factories (in japan, conversion kits and custom conversions were/still are very popular in car shows. US was the only market to get these, and they were auto only)

US never received any car with the s13 silvia front...i think it looks great on coupes, fastbacks, and verts &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;s13's for everybody! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[mistert]

oh and time to do the thing i hate most and correct anybody...its USDM, not ADM (im sick of all this JDM crap from rice mag influence), and hippo's minor error on the changover to sr20 and new body style on 180sx's being 1990, since they get all the changes in generation a year earlier (like getting s14 zenki in 94, and s14 kouki in 96 instead of 97)

also, hippo sleek some of your replies are dead on and crack me the fuck up &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[guidot]

thanks for the correction hippo. &nbsp;But now i'm confused, mistert says that the 95-96 is zenki. &nbsp;I thought it was kouki? &nbsp;I'm in need of this info, i don't want the banner on my phone to be wrong &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[S13 Passion]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (uuninja @ May 23 2002,3:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">RHD VS LHD</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ive hearing that a lot.... what the hell is RHD and LHD?

[SR20Fastback]

RHD= Right Hand Drive
LHD= Left Hand Drive


I believe there was an FAQ for abbreviations started a while ago, for any others you might be confused about.

[S13 Passion]

aaahhhh yes.... thank you

[mistert]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (guidot @ May 22 2002,6:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">thanks for the correction hippo. But now i'm confused, mistert says that the 95-96 is zenki. I thought it was kouki? I'm in need of this info, i don't want the banner on my phone to be wrong <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i thought zenki meant early and kouki meant later and there was another thing in between as well? i do believe that a series 4 FC is zenki and a series 5 FC is kouki, and ca18det 180sx is zenki while latest 180sx is kouki? i dunno, i mgith ahvave it backwards, but i was pretty sure thats the way it is

[Loren]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ May 23 2002,3:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What a minefield of misinformation this post is.

Loren - what the hell is your problem? Why does it matter? And relying on a video game for your car information? Geezuz H. Christ! There are plenty of differences from floor mats to climate control to map lights to calipers to which friggin' side of the car you drive on. Good luck!

Aze - the thought that 85 might signify that you are old enough legally drive a motor vehicle in my beloved country (1985) makes me cringe in fear. Especially when you are so confident in something you know nothing about. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

SR20 - nice try. Close (and you sought correction <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'> ) the SR came in the 180 beginning in 1991.

guidot - you are right about the introduction of the s14 in 1994 (the vert only year in the US). But the non-usdm lights have never been projectors on Zenkis. Glass, yes. Projectors NEVER.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Wow your cool. I like to get my facts straight before I condemn people, but Im not a "Zilvia Junkie" so... It was 90 not 91 for the SR in 180's. Also I got correct information from GT2 because the J-Spec 96's did have the "shark eye" headlights.

[HippoSleek]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mistert @ May 23 2002,4<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">oh and time to do the thing i hate most and correct anybody...its USDM, not ADM (im sick of all this JDM crap from rice mag influence), and hippo's minor error on the changover to sr20 and new body style on 180sx's being 1990, since they get all the changes in generation a year earlier (like getting s14 zenki in 94, and s14 kouki in 96 instead of 97)

also, hippo sleek some of your replies are dead on and crack me the fuck up <!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah - I was actually going to put "after 1990" b/c of the fact that you could *buy* an SR in 1990 (but I thought it was a 1991 model year car). &nbsp;Ditto the Kouki s14 "Introduced December 1996..." &nbsp;Similarly, the Aussie site correctly identifies that the Zenki s14 was introduced in 1993. Oh well - that's what you get for getting your info from an ADM site (Australian Domestic Market <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> ). &nbsp;Are you drawing a distinction b/n introduction and model year? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

And thanks. We try. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

Oh yeah - you are right - Zenki = early, Kouki = later - same as the 7.

...and Loren - grow a pair.

[JpS]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ May 23 2002,3:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What a minefield of misinformation this post is.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
thank you for your insight and corrections, master yoda &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>



meditate you must, for the dark side clouds your vision young loren

[matic 240sx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (guidot @ May 22 2002,3:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I believe that the s14 in Japan was also marketed as early as 94.
The lights on the JDM S14 94-96 were projector (like the 97-98) but not the "cat-eye" style. The lenses were also glas in Japan, not plastic <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
Hope that helps...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
very good! ten points!

yes they did bring the s14 out a year early there... and it had the same motor as the s13. &nbsp;Sr20det (205 HP)

but in 95 it had the new motor with VVT. &nbsp;and 215 hp

We got the S14 in 95 and it came with 155 hp with the N/a Ka24de. &nbsp;

the headlights changed in both places during 97 but when 99 rolled around he lost the 240sx and they got the S15.