for those who are drifting with the n/a ka

[kenversusryu]

I was wondering where in the tach do you need the most power? I was aiming for usable torque at 3500 to 5000 power peaking at around 4300 and then it'll just go downhill from there..

but drifting and road racing can't be much different as far as power band goes.. so i was wondering if it's more logical to bump up the top end instead at around 4500 to 6000 and power peaking at around 5100.

i want to ask the drifters who drift with the n/a ka and ask you guys where exactly in the tach do you guys spent most of the time during drifts..

btw i have a s14 zenki.

[brainfood]

top end the stock ka has enough torque more power above 4k and a slightly higher rev limit would be nice but only with more power so it will pull well to redline.

[mistaanime]

Dousan in this board used to drift in a KA..and he was doin well wit it..juss a shit load suspension work and a lsd will do wonders.

[KA24DESOneThree]

I used to drift with stock KA. Coilovers, subframe spacers, and VLSD were my only mods back then.

I just ran 195/60s out back and never really worried about the tach. I just kept my foot buried and kept the car sliding with steering inputs. I guess you should try to keep it above 4k like brainfood said.

[Dousan_PG]

205/55 tires
stay abouve 4.5k rpm
never lift
floor it all the time, if u do lift its not full its slight
mash the gas
steer
go fast
be insane.
dont crash.

do it.

[brainfood]

Here is some video of me drifting my stock ka I run 225/45-17's or at least I did in all of these videos. Last weekend I ran 215/45-17's and I like them puts the rev's a little a higher in a given gear. imo 195's, 205's are too small for any higher speed drifts. And if you want to keep up with sr guys you need more mechanical grip to have more speed in drift. I catch sr guys a lot of times mid drift. The white s12 in the video is a ca18det powered car with a lot more power.
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=A0791F67-3B51-4B33-B251-6055C653CC8F

[nokeone]

i've always drifted a KA and never felt the need to adjust the powerband...drifted on everything from stockers to 17x9 wheels with 235s out back...just keep the pedal to the floor, kick the clutch on occasion, and enjoy...=)

to answer your question though...you spend most of your time near redline...

[i8yourfwd]

Alot of the shock drifting guys used to drift with a stock KA. They were damn good at it too. Hopefully one of them will chime in..

[kenversusryu]

thanks for the replies.

[kenversusryu]

I guess i'll aim for some more top end and see how that goes for the next event.

btw nice vid brain food.. are those 2nd gear drifts?

sorry for the double post.

[94cc0rd]

this is off topic but how many times did you guys spin out or anything like that at your first event? I'm gonna be going to drift day in march and it will be my first time.. i don't know what to expect..

also, i know i need an extra set of tires... what do you guys who have stock wheels do??

and to kinda keep it on topic, i will be drifting with my n/a KA... :P

[Flybert]

Like dousan said, keep that shit mashed. Don't let off too much because the revs will drop quick. Make most of your corrections with steering inputs and line choice so that you can stay on throttle. Keep those revs as high as possible and enjoy the KA because it is fun as hell and teaches you to be a good driver. Enter your drifts faster than anyone you know and go from there. You'll be good in no time.

this is off topic but how many times did you guys spin out or anything like that at your first event? I'm gonna be going to drift day in march and it will be my first time.. i don't know what to expect..

also, i know i need an extra set of tires... what do you guys who have stock wheels do??

and to kinda keep it on topic, i will be drifting with my n/a KA... :P

I spun out sooooooooooo much at my first event (Drift Day 10) because I had a shitty open diff and couldn't react to it. Very unpredictable. Next event (JD at buttonwillow), I had a tomei 2-way, bride seats and i didn't spin out too much.

Bring another set of wheels with you that have tires on them. Bring at least two wheels with tires. Four is more recomended though. A good recomendation for you is to make sure you put the clutch in when you spin because you will stall your car and cause the line to slow down. And have fun too. That's the most important part. PM me if you have any more questions because we don't want this thread to go far off topic.

[JaeTea]

KA drifting rocks..

I run 195/60, 205/55's were too hard to break loose.

Do all your suspension work and get an LSD and just go nutz.

The key is to go way faster than you need to, steer in super hard and don't lift.

[brainfood]

this is off topic but how many times did you guys spin out or anything like that at your first event? I'm gonna be going to drift day in march and it will be my first time.. i don't know what to expect..

also, i know i need an extra set of tires... what do you guys who have stock wheels do??

and to kinda keep it on topic, i will be drifting with my n/a KA... :P
You'll spin everyone does. Pic up an extra set of stocks or if you can find them oe 16" mustang wheels wider and better offset and usually cheaper because there are tons of them. How much you spin depends on how much you push yourself and how fast you learn but dont worry no one is going to laugh and point or anything drift days are great for learning. Spend some time on the skid pad if you cant do donoughts and figure 8's you cant drift a full course imo.

btw nice vid brain food.. are those 2nd gear drifts?

2nd and 3rd gear I wish I had some video from irwindale that is 3rd from mid bank where I kick all the way full throttle till the apex at the hairpin lots of fun! The pic in my sig is from irwindale.
http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=A0791F67-3B51-4B33-B251-6055C653CC8F
Thats last sun. All of those courses are 3rd gear entrance. You just need to focus more on your line with the ka and once you get it down you will be just as fast as sr guys in drift.

[infinitexsound]

+1 for no lifting, narrow tires....

[motonagam]

I run 245/40/17 Michelin Pilots in the rear, and 225/45/17 Advan Neovas in the front when I go to drift days on my S14, and I'm able to drift just fine with my stock KA, Kei Office XT-alpha coilovers, and S15 HLSD. My Kei Office coilovers made the biggest difference. I set my dampening to full soft in the front, and midway in the rear. In order to get my car to drift, I have to enter the corner faster than everyone else, and let the momentum of the car carry me through the corner since the stock KA doesn't have much power to do so. The wide 245/40/17 tires in the rear makes my 3rd gear drifts very stable... I found drifting at a faster speed was actually a lot easier to control. I do a lot of weight transfer drifts, such as trail-braking and feint. Although DD30 & DD31 were the only drift days I went to, I really surprised myself when I was able to do 3rd gear drifts already! I thought having to downshift from 3rd to 2nd gear would mess up my drift, but it actually wasn't that bad... but I did find that the timing of my downshift was crucial, otherwise my car would stop drifting if I fall out of the powerband.

Masashi
1997 Black 240sx SE

[Wei240]

n/a ka drifting is fun,
from my cone dodging drifting experience:
go to 4-6k rpm
clutch kick early before the turn
mash all the way thru the end of the course
only thing you'll be doing is turn/adjust the steering wheel

for beginners, ASK someone to sit in w/ you, ask a lot of q's, they'll tell you alot, they'll tell you to keep rpm high, when to kick the clutch etc etc

oh yeah, and buy a pair of gloves if you don't already have one...

[JaeTea]

One thing KA drifting WILL teach you is correct lines...cause you just don't have the power to save your ass when your completely off.

[brainfood]

One thing KA drifting WILL teach you is correct lines...cause you just don't have the power to save your ass when your completely off.
So very true.... the real skill is driving the n/a ka well enough that people ask you if its sr all the time and then are suprised when you say "No stock KA"

[sideview_180sx]

where is BH to help answer this question........post pics of BH and the KA skillz dayz..........

[vvtisupra]

i try to drive like a hachi =) whip it hard whip it fast off high speed turns keep the wheels spinning ~5000 is good, watch your angles try not to scrub off too much speed in transitions. At the recent balcony day there was a slow right hander in a figure 8 set up off a quick left hander and i found that ka's were having problems carrying it all the way through including myself. By mid day found out that slight rocking of the wheel will help keep the wheels spinning as well as feeding the clutch and some time multiple clutch kicks.

[kenversusryu]

has anyone experimented with the 91 cams on the s14? I was wondering what would be better for drift.. 240/248.. or the 248/232.. 248/248 isnt an option right now. Thanks for all the replies everyone. It's helping me get a better idea on what to expect for my first drift day.

[Dousan_PG]

neither are worth
u dont need some fancy pants cams to make u drive
ive drifted stock s14 ka feels like a s13 ka imo
just drive dont think so much

[Brian]

3rd gear clutch kick clutch kick again e-brake steer floor it off throttle downshift to second throttle throttle throttle steer etc.

[Maeda]

I am good drifting racer from your sake BH.

Lets make awesome next time!

[A Spec Products]

3rd gear clutch kick clutch kick again e-brake steer floor it off throttle downshift to second throttle throttle throttle steer etc.

...and the KA master spoke.

long beeeeitch!

i still think S14 KADE is better than S13 KADE, at least according to my butt dyno.

[SochBAT]

any type of LSD makes your car feel faster, and have more power.

Get one of those first.

[RBS14]

n/a ka drifting is fun. Until you do tandem with people with power. Then it's just pathetic.

[brainfood]

n/a ka drifting is fun. Until you do tandem with people with power. Then it's just pathetic.
I dont find a problem keeping up with higher powered cars in tandem. Unless we are talking about straightaway speed before the drift then of course but I havnt had any problems hanging with sr guys and girls.

[Dousan_PG]

brian did kick ass in tandem
leading though
following can be another story when the higher powered cars take off on the straights and up and into 3rd/top of 3rd

but thru mid 3rd/2nd drifting its notthat bad.

[quach]

anyone who's gone to NCDA night drift events at altamont know that almost all of the guys in the top 8/4 run stock KA's. theyre the guys to talk to. ive seen sonny on the boards lately, maybe he can give some input.


just drive dont think so much


exactly.

[RBS14]

yeah when we're already drifting it's fine. But getting there is when you get killed. And yes, the one altimont event that my car ran I made it to top 8 and it was so much fun! All of us were n/a ka. It rocked.

[CrappyS13]

all about redline control with KA

[monkey7]

I don't even look at my tach, I just go by exhast tone. I usually feel it, but I have a higher risk of blowing my engine.

I usually just keep my foot on the throttle, when I feel I'm losing power, POW, I bang on the clutch without lifting my foot off the pedal to continue on.

Altamont is kick ass scary, but when you get over the wall fear. Its rush!