Offset Question.

[3 Era]

I searched, tried the FAQ link but it doesn't work (for me atleast), and my patience has run out on trying to learn friggin offset.

With that said...

Wheel: Work Meister S1 3pc
Application: 92 240SX Hatch
Size: 17x8 17x9
Lug Pattern: 5x114.3
Offset: ???
They need to clear Tein Flex coilovers and 300ZX brakes.

I know you guys have had tons of threads with offset questions, and I'm sorry for posting yet another, but I give up. Please just give me some suggestions on what offset I should run. Thank You.

[SpeedMonkeyInc]

Depends on a few things. What do you think looks good? What size tire do you want to run? Good tire sizes would be 225/45 front and 235/40 rear. For the 8s you could do anything from +25 to 0 offset. For the 9s I would not go higher than +20.

[P4rD0nM3]

17x8 +15 - +20 will be flush unless you got over fenders. 17x9 on the back +10 would be flush. I'm going by this offsets cuz I think you want the wheels to be flush but not hella flush?

PS: You have a lot of money. Hehehe. I can't afford those wheels without sacrificing my overall budget. Hehehe.

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[Irukandji]

17x9 +35 will clear coils on the rear
17x8 +35 will need a 5mm spacer to clear Tein Flex, and will clear zbrakes on the front.

^I used those offsets assuming the wheels are 4 lug, but atleast you got something to work with.

[FaLKoN240]

17x9 +35 will clear coils on the rear
17x8 +35 will need a 5mm spacer to clear Tein Flex, and will clear zbrakes on the front.

^I used those offsets assuming the wheels are 4 lug, but atleast you got something to work with.

OOOO Ben you know better. . .

Offset doesn't determine brake clearance. It's the spoke design. Mesh wheels with +35 offset don't clear Z brakes.

[3 Era]

17x8 +15 - +20 will be flush unless you got over fenders. 17x9 on the back +10 would be flush. I'm going by this offsets cuz I think you want the wheels to be flush but not hella flush?

PS: You have a lot of money. Hehehe. I can't afford those wheels without sacrificing my overall budget. Hehehe.

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Yeah, I want them flush. Does offset determine the size of the lip? I've heard it does and it doesn't.

Thanks to my new job I can afford these, 10-16 hours a day, 6 days a week.

[lv-180sx]

Yeah, I want them flush. Does offset determine the size of the lip? I've heard it does and it doesn't.

Thanks to my new job I can afford these, 10-16 hours a day, 6 days a week.

offset on expensive rims like work, volk, and ssr mostly determines lip size.. on rims like 5zigen or most cheaper wheels just use backspacing for less offset..

[3 Era]

Yeah that's what I thought, I want nice deep lips. This whole offset thing is really confusing lol.

[Neejay]

Whew, I thought I was only one confused about offsets...lol

[bcrume]

call auto rnd up and ask for josh, he has an s13 and will know all the best offsets for your car. You need to decide if you want to roll, pull or leave the fenders alone. They sell volk, work, ame, all the top brands. Really good guys and will get you the best offset available. Most shops just use the recomended size from the manufacturer but auto rnd measures the clearences for each car and can give you the flushest dori dori offsets. It's a shame to see someone spend the money on quality wheels and not get the best sizes available.

[theicecreamdan]

OOOO Ben you know better. . .

Offset doesn't determine brake clearance. It's the spoke design. Mesh wheels with +35 offset don't clear Z brakes.


enough offset will make any spoke design clear any brake setup.

[3 Era]

bcrume - I'll contact him, thanks man.

Thanks for the replies everyone :bigok:

[Dousan_PG]

enough offset will make any spoke design clear any brake setup.


no it doesnt
whree do poeple come up w/ this shit
OFFSET DOES NOT DETERMINE BRAKE CLEARANCE

how many times do we need to go thru it?

[DreamDriveDrift]

just draw a picture in your head. where the lug attaches to the rim is one thing, and how far the caliper sticks out towards the face is another. it doesnt matter how much offset you have, it matters where the face of the rim at the point of the caliper in relation to the mounting location.

[TheTimanator]

enough offset will make any spoke design clear any brake setup.
not true! it depends on spoke design. Think about it....if the spokes of wheel are too close to the mounting surface than the spoke will hit the caliper. For instance...with mesh wheels and most three piece wheels the face and mounting pad do not change with the offset. It just moves further in or out inside the rim. This is why most 3 piece wheels have different disks for brake clearence or more lip.

somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.EDIT: arg ^^^took me too long to type.

now my question for this is...for 1 peice wheels does the clearence change? Ex: lets say a 17x9 +30 doesn't clear Z32 calipers. What about a plus +10 offset version of that same wheel? Where does the manufacturer get the extra 20mm? If they get it by pushing the mounting pad back then wouldn't it provide more caliper clearence?

[Dousan_PG]

thetim: depends on how the wheel is designed.

[TheTimanator]

thetim: depends on how the wheel is designed.
thats what I figured. so i guess for some instances lower offset can provide more clearence but without knowing exact measurements of every wheel or having first hand experience the best thing to tell people is "OFFSET DOES NOT DETERMINE BRAKE CLEARANCE" which is still probably true 98% of the time.
:)

[phreze]

ot to brust your bubble but they dont make the 3 peice in 17s only 18 and 19. You can get the 2 peice ones though.

Get 17x8 Ldisk +28(57mm lip) - -10(95mm lip) your choice
rears go with 17x9 Odisk +28(91mm lip) - -20(139mm lip)

If you wanna be balla about it.

[3 Era]

They're being custom made from the factory, it's a GB on Club4ag. I just need to provide them with an offset so they can put the order threw.

[Dousan_PG]

group buys? haha
avoid them
you'll get screwed
what company is doing it?
any work dealer can get them. aspec, autornd
dont get screwed
expect 3-4 month wait if custom.
fyi.

[3 Era]

Yeah I know I'll have to wait awhile for them which is fine. What's bad about GB's? I've never had any problems with them before.

[Dousan_PG]

what company is hosting it?
i never trust group buys..see some fo the zilvia ones take a shit

but thats just me
depends on the company
and obviously this company doestn know much..because its not made in 3pc unless 18+

[3 Era]

I'm gonna contact AutoRnD for a price quote, won't be going with that GB for obvious reasons.

Thanks for your help everyone.

Dousan - to answer your question, I could have sworn it was a company doing it but it appears not to be, so screw that. There's a couple GB's on here that I'm interested in, I hope they'll be no problems (the Takata harness group buy for example).

[phreze]

My offset specs I gave you should still hold true then. It all depends how much lip you want. The Ldisk is ment for big calipers so will fit your 300zx brakes fine and the Odisk is so you can show girls your O face later.. OooOoOoOOOOoO

OK, its for deep lip but same thing.

[g6civcx]

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