Crashed 240, Some Questions *PICS*

[em0eric]

So i was in a crash and my whole front end was kinda pushed in towards the firewall. The engine still runs strong like before the crash, but Now my fan wont work and im wondering if it is ok to drive like this? My fan works, it just wont turn because its being blocked by all the junk being pushed forward.

heres are some pics:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/100_0881.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/crash2.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/crash.jpg


also, im wondering, do you guys think it is worth it to try and fix? nothing leaks. the engine starts up fine, idles fine, and runs fine. i had to drive it home after the crash about 15 miles and it was ok. The only thing is that its harder to shift gears now, its not as smooth as it should be and it almost feels like they will pop out of gear if i let them go. It runs exactly the same as before the crash, nice.

Anyways, just wondering what you guys think of it. the insurance company isnt going to pay a dime since i only have liability and it was my fault.


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/100_0875.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/100_0873.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/100_0872.jpg

The car is still hella clean inside and out, its just that the front bumper/support/end/fenders/hood are just pushed in from the crash. It runs fine. I havnt been driving it because i was worried about the fan not working. Is it safe?


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/100_0886.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/100_0885.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/100_0887.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/100_0889.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/100_0890.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/sleepy180/crash/100_0884.jpg

im already in the market for another 240 anyways, but do you think i can sell this as a whole? or would i have to part it out? what kind of $$ do you think i can get for it parted out or as a whole. im really sad because ive had this car for 2 years and its so damn clean, it sucks. she was my baby. anyways, im just looking for your opinions on the car, no sympathy needed. Thanks for any and all comments.

[reefer1114]

i had the same thing happen to me about a year ago except mine was mostly on the passenger side. i hit a dirt wall and did a 360. shock tower was ripped up because of my strut bar, busted oil pan, and it was such a clean car. pushed in about a good 3-4 inches. my advice to you is to part it out. 5-speed swap, doors, dash, carpet, engine parts, suspension, etc...it might take awhile but if you want to make money thats the way to go. the frame is not going to be as strong if you get it fixed and it might cost you more than what you paid for the car. or get another s13 and swap out parts if you need it and then sell or junk the rest, make sure to save the zenki lip or sell it. keep the tires also. if the new one has messed up doors dents or missing interior panels then youll have a lot of other parts that you can use. good luck man.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/reefer1114/DSC02100.jpg

[abstrakt]

If you sell it you'll probably take a pretty good hit on it. If you feel like you dont want to part with it, Dont..Because you could get it fixed..You know, For about 800 dollars you could turn it into a Sil-Eighty..If you wanted of course. Either way though, You either should get it fixed or sell it..Dont take much shit though if you do go to sell it because from what you said, It still runs perfectly and all those other body panels and interior pieces are in great shape. So really in all honestly, You'd probably be better of keeping it..Seeing as 800 dollars would fix the whole problem. Tough decision, But it could turn out nicely.

[drift925]

hey wussup man..it says your from "walnut" california..does that mean walnut creek? because if so..i would like to go over there and pick some parts out and give you money for it bro..and on top of all that i'm sorry to hear about your car man..

i live in lafayette..next to walnut creek and concord...hit me up on the cell..

925-876-6004
Anthony.

[180InProgress]

frame damage... not worth it in my honest opinion. Too much money involved restoring plus you can a 240 cheap anyways... maybe even find a body and drop your engine in it if it really runs well. If not, get a DOHC later year 240 and take the hit.

[drift925]

just take out the fan shroud..you dont even need it..you can run your car without it fine..just make sure that your engine doesnt overheat. because who knows if you could have damaged the block..the worste thing to get after the crash would be a warped head. or blown head gasket..so keep your eyes on that tempature gauge
-anthony

[Irukandji]

^Walnut is in Socal, it's where JSpec is located.
Different from Walnut Creek Anthony :-p


ON TOPIC

well your car doesn't look too bad. All it would really need is a few front end parts and of course, you'd need to straighten the frame. If you can find another 240, then I'd say part out the one you crashed and start building the other one. As for your fan issue, you can either remove the fan shroud covering, or just remove the fan altogether. You car should be fine without it if you just rewire the AC fan to run fulltime.

Just my .02

[drift925]

AWW DAMN.. i thought walnut meant walnut creek..haha damn..me and you ben coulda went to his house and helped the guy out..

[WERDdabuilder]

ill take that lip if you want to sell it =D

[drift925]

i'll take those struts.shifter and boot. ur wiring harness.seats.ps pump and lines..all for 200 $

[big_schaf]

Just take a hammer out and start pounding, it doesnt look that bad, just think of it as you have forced yourself to upgrade to a sil-80 or s15 front end

[ManoNegra]

Remove the bumper and fenders. You'll get a better idea of what the actual damage is. If the frame isn't badly damaged it shouldn't cost to much to fix. S13 are abundant in junkyards for parts. As for parting out, i dunno, that interior color you have is pretty 'unique' (aka ugly) so maybe not too many people would want the dash, carpet, etc. Good luck though, I've been thorugh this type of shit a couple time and it blows. At least yours still drives.

[SochBAT]

i bet...

your buddies were like "lets go drifting!" and psyched you up good.

When you crashed, or hit the wall, they were no where to be seen.

Meaning, they didn't offer any help to fix, or anything of that sort.

Now you're here. Talking to Zilvians.

Part out!!! or...

My buddy got hit realllly bad from the passenger side, pretty much TBoned. Insurance was going to sell it off for 200bucks, so they just bought it back, and then proceded to fix it. We tied it to a tree, and BAMO, fixed it pretty damn well. I should take some pics as well, but going across the street is kinda far...

[drift925]

i have a friend who is looking for a tan dash..i'll give him a call later today..maybe he might be intrested..hes located in orange county..so maybe he can pick up..

[projectRDM]

i'll take those struts.shifter and boot. ur wiring harness.seats.ps pump and lines..all for 200 $

For SOHC parts? You're paying too much.

The frame is not damaged from those pictures, and it would be a straight fix though as mentioned it's not worth it. Parting it won't net much either since the interior is tan and it's a SOHC. Either way you're going to take a loss.

[NemeGuero]

Safe to drive? No.. its been crumpled meaning there is nothing to absorb impact a second time around.

Ok to drive? Maybe, but keep an eye on that thermostat and unplug the fan so it doesn't TRY to spin. Make sure the radiator isn't leaking.

AND fix it or get it fixed right away.
Start pulling off parts.. check for whats bent and either straighten it or get the parts from a junk yard 240 with rear end damage.

Or straighten it with a hammer or a winch or whatever. Be creative.

Good luck.

[Sil Beer S13]

go get and estimate on what it would cost to repair.
its doesnt look that bad.
dont automatically assume you have to sell it.

i crashed my old s13 pretty bad, but i fixed it and kept drifting the shit out of it.

[undesiredshoe]

hey it you decide to part out the part or anything, I am interested in your rsr exmag

haha your car looks mean now

[WERDdabuilder]

oh, and you should move that rear bandaid to the right spot.

[Andrew Bohan]

if that was my car i'd throw away the bent body panels, cut new frame pieces off a junk car and cut the damaged pieces off your car and weld the new frame pieces on. then get new body panels.

[HyperTek]

get chains, tie around a light post *do a tree instead*, have a buddy stand outside watching it as you lightly reverse =instantly pulled out.

Get new fenders and hood cheap on forums or junk yard, get a wheel alignment for added mental security reasons and your ok.


Serious, its only a 12 year old car. Gimme $200 and ill drive to walnut and help you pull it. i got some dented fenders ill throw on there *better then the ones u currently got on*

[AN89HATCH]

If it was me, I would pull the whole front end off, tie a rope around the radiator support, and tie the other end to a car and drive it very slow until everything is as close to straight as possible :x: , then go to the junk yard and get a new front end. It prob wont be as strong as it used to, but atleast it will look normal, its very cheap, and easy =). If not just buy a shell and swap everything, its not worth it to pay to fix, and you prob wont make to much money parting it out. Good luck

[Jonnie Fraz]

Like a couple others have said, you need to start pulling parts off to see how much damage there is. Also it is going to depend on how perfect you want your car, IE show, or daily driver. For sure you need to pull the shroud before you start it up again, you will overheat without a fan in a short time. Running without shroud will not hurt, as for the damage I would not drive it until you at least replace the bumper support. Chanches are it will not be as simple as unbolting old and bolting up new parts, you definitly have a dinged up core support, and I hope no frame damage. Frame damage does not mean it is garbage it just needs more work. Several people have offered help and several have offered to buy parts, You have to make the decision weather you need help or you just want to part it out. If you were closer I would be willing to help, but a little far for me to drive. Let me know if you need parts, my buddy is parting a 93. Good luck

[aznpoopy]

you need to dissassemble the front end to get a better look at the damage. park it in that nice garage... take off the fenders, hood, front bumper, etc.

body damage = junkyard parts, no biggy. headlight, fenders, hood are all easily replaced.
frame damage... as in the actual body of the car, parallel to the fenders = bad, sell it.
rad support support damage = hard to fix, but fixable. you can cut it off and weld another one on. or do the ghetto fix and pull it straight with the aid of another car or tree.

rad support damage is the not same as frame damage... i wish people would stop saying junk it everytime they see a slightly messed up rad support.

[andrewmp6]

thats a easy fix just need a whole front end fix or replace the radaitor support just dont drive it looks like you probably cracked the radaitor and the fan is fucked

[downshift_sideways]

s13 front end for t3h win!

[speedstar01]

:wtc: i feel for you and your ride...

id wish to see that beautiful 240 rebuilt but if you decide on parting it out id definately like to take those strut tower bars off your hands :yum:

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Matt

[Ricks15]

I had something similar to that kinda damage but except most of the damage was on the driverside area. But lets not get into that because its a long story, What this guy outta do is that closley examin the damage because I doubt that there is any frame damge it just looks like hell because the 240 is a shit car. When I rear ended a 80 chevy truck I thought for sure I fucked up the frAME but actully the car look horrible but when I turned the engine on it was ok, If this is youre daily driver and If you like me where you got have you're car just mickey mouse some stuff or go to the junk and find the necessits that you do need. Right now im rolling with a gold hood with duct tape at the corners of where the pop up lights are and im allways getting laughed at but hey fuck it right now if anyone out there has crashed or damaged there 240 thelly know exactly how depressing it is espcially if its youre daily beater. But just do that closley examine the damage and save you're money to get it fixed. But done send it to the junkyard, Only fuckin idiots on here are complete dumbasses to say that when there is only minimal damage.

[kazuo]

You can pull it out with a tree and be ghetto, but there will likely be slight tweaking still to the frame & front support, body panels wont align, etc etc

I've done it before to my friend's car and its fine with a few zip ties.. granted it wasn't nearly as pushed in as yours.

You can have that fixed by replacing the front support + frame pull and getting new body panels.. however, as others have pointed out, the labor for the pull + the support install is gonna cost ya.. I think its like 2-3 hrs labour for that job, not counting parts.

If you can get a cheap front support (cut one from the yard), and know someone that can weld, or know a guy at a body shop, see what you can do as far as pricing goes.

Take it in and get a estimate, then decide for yourself what to do based off of that. They can verify if the car's been substantially tweaked very easily.

Body panels... junkyard, or zilvia. Lots of people selling "180SX" front ends for various reasons, or they just have extra parts. Should be able to piece one together fairly cheap.

Also consider the hassle of having to part the car out, find buyers, wait for pickup/shipping parts, then having to find another car... its all about time and money, and time = money.

You can do anything if you have enough cash flow. :)

[ledzeppelin240]

It's a clutch fan so you can't just unplug it. I crashed my car and it looked bad, took the fenders, hood, bumper cover, rad, condenser, fan and shoud out and then I find it is not that bad at all.

[nismo-S14]

Looks like an easy fix, plus a lot of those cars in local junkyards